OPtions Question: What happens to my options if there is a spin off?

gotsmack

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I own 08 and 09 call options for Duke energy.

They recently announced that they are going toi spin of their natural gas division and become a pure electric player.

What happens to my options after the spin off? Do I still have claim to the natural gas spin when I hit the strike price? or is the strike price going to be lowered?

Hell, I only bought them because I wanted the natural gas exposure, I don't care about their electricity business.

My broker told me to call corporate action. I don't even know who that is, then he said if I'm worried I should close my positions.

anyone know different?
 

DeeKnow

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I am no expert, but I would think this would be treated similar to an extraordinary dividend. The shareholders will approve a valuation of the spun-off business, and they will earn a proportional number of shares in the spun-off entity. This assigned value should be deducted from your strike price by the options market-maker.... however, what you then end up with is a bet on the electric business - in which you have no interest, so the best thing may be to sell and get out, and buy up options in the spun-off gas business.
 

fire400

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Originally posted by: DeeKnow
I am no expert, but I would think this would be treated similar to an extraordinary dividend. The shareholders will approve a valuation of the spun-off business, and they will earn a proportional number of shares in the spun-off entity. This assigned value should be deducted from your strike price by the options market-maker.... however, what you then end up with is a bet on the electric business - in which you have no interest, so the best thing may be to sell and get out, and buy up options in the spun-off gas business.

well, you need to study this as much as you can. you don't want an Enron, where you lose everything without secure warning.

thing is, are you going to sell out because someone doesn't know about something and wants to just buy it anyway? your buyer is going to look into this one. don't get stuck in a rut. you don't know for sure if things are going to climb or fall do you?

besides man.... your stupid broker sounds lazy as hell. why doesn't he call the corporate? makes you do it instead, he's the one helping with the handles?

keep both eyes open and be ready to take swift action with patient hands, blink twice, and you got a losing ticket, buddy.
 

Al Neri

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ok - its easy to figure out. you have to go on www.AMEX.com and check the circular, it will tell you exactly what you get!

i used to work for the NASD doing options investigations.
 

Al Neri

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EQUITY OPTIONS
Information Circular
#06-0304 Derivative Securities
Date April 3, 2006
To Members, Member Organizations and Registered Option Principals
From Ann B. Pierre, Options Research Manager
Subject Cinergy Corp. (CIN) ? Completion of Merger with Duke Energy Corp. (DUK)
Cinergy Corp. (CIN) shareholders met on Friday, March 10, 2006, and approved the Agreement and Plan of Merger in which CIN will merge with Duke Energy Corp. (DUK). Under the terms of the Agreement and Plan of merger, each share of CIN common stock will be converted into the right to receive 1.56 shares of DUK common stock. Cash will be paid in lieu of fractional shares.
The merger became effective prior to the open today, April 3, 2006.
Effective today Monday, April 3, 2006, the symbols for all outstanding option contracts will change from CIN to CJN and will require delivery/receipt of 156 shares of DUK. For complete terms of the merger, please see AMEX Information Circular #06-0189, dated 3/02/06.
Questions concerning this circular may be directed to the AMEX Derivative Securities Hotline: 800-THE-AMEX. Copies of this and other Information Circulars may be accessed at our AmexTrader.com website.
 

Al Neri

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EQUITY OPTIONS
Information Circular
#06-0189 Derivative Securities
Date March 2, 2006
To Members, Member Organizations & Registered Option Principals
From Ann Pierre, Options Research Manager
Subject Cinergy Corp. (CIN) - Upcoming Contract Adjustment due to Merger with Duke Energy Corp. (DUK)
Shareholders of Cinergy Corp. (CIN) will meet on Friday, March 10, 2006, to vote to approve the Agreement and Plan of Merger dated (5/08/05), as stated in the joint proxy statement/prospectus (dated 2/02/06), in which CIN will merger with Duke Energy Corp. (DUK). The merger is anticipated to become effective on a date to be announced.
Under the terms of the Agreement and Plan of merger, and subject to certain conditions set forth in the joint Proxy Statement/Prospectus, each share of CIN common stock will be converted into the right to receive 1.56 DUK common stock. Cash will be paid in lieu of fractional shares.
The foregoing is a summary of the terms and conditions of the Merger Agreement and is prepared by the Exchange for the convenience of its membership. The Exchange accepts no responsibility for its accuracy or completeness. For more complete information, please refer to the conditions set forth in the joint Proxy/Prospectus.
Accordingly, pursuant to The Options Clearing Corporation's ("OCC") by-laws, upon consummation of the merger and under the terms outlined above, effective on the day after the effective date of the merger, each outstanding CIN option contract will be adjusted as follows:
1. all outstanding option contracts will be adjusted to represent 156 shares of DUK common stock, (?Merger Consideration?)
2. the symbols for all outstanding option contracts will change from CIN to CJN, to represent the contract adjustment noted above.
3. the strike prices will remain the same.
4. the multiplier for adjusted contracts will remain 100.
Example/Important Note
A CIN March 40 Call (CINCH) representing 100 CIN shares will become a CJN March 30 Call (CJNCH) representing 156 shares of DUK common stock.
Premiums and aggregate exercise prices for adjusted contracts will continue to be calculated on the basis of 100 shares per contract (i.e., despite the fact that each adjusted contract represents 156 shares of DUK common stock). For example, a premium bid of $2 for one CIN contract will represent a total premium bid of $200. Similarly, a holder of a CJN call with an exercise price of $40 will be required to pay an aggregate price of $4,000, and an assigned short will be required to deliver 156 shares of DUK common stock.
Special Operational Requirements
Member firms are advised that:
1. Orders on the Specialist's book for all CIN series will be automatically reentered on the day following the effective date of the merger to reflect the adjusted deliverable;
2. DKs resolved in the Exchange's options reconciliation room must reflect adjustments to ticker symbols.
Position and Exercise Limits
Position and exercise limits will be any combination of CJN and DUK contracts not representing more than 45,000,000 shares until the July 2006 expiration.
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Questions concerning this circular may be directed to the AMEX Derivative Securities Hotline: 800-THE-AMEX. Copies of this and other Information Circulars may be accessed on our AmexTrader.com website.
 

Al Neri

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i agree your broker sucks

get a tradeking account and do ur own trading.

or hire me :) jk
 

gotsmack

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Originally posted by: Don Rodriguez
ok - its easy to figure out. you have to go on www.AMEX.com and check the circular, it will tell you exactly what you get!

i used to work for the NASD doing options investigations.

What is the circular?


I use a discount broker. TD ameritrade. maybe thats why the guy on the phone didn;t help much.

I might switch to Scottrade.