Opteron 3280 HE - Server CPU with no home!

[nenforcer]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113005

Here is a Socket AM3+ AMD Opteron 3280 HE 2.4GHz octocore server (Bulldozer) processor but the problem is there doesn't appear to be any Socket AM3+ server motherboards available.

I've seen threads with people apparently running this chip in an 880G board, does anyone know if it requires ECC memory or if this chip will work in any Socket AM3+ 880/980 based motherboard?

I didn't even think AMD consumer AM2 / AM2+ / AM3 / AM3+ chipset motherboards supported AMD Opteron processors but it appears they must if the sockets match.

 

[sm625]

if these chips were actually good performers, you might get an answer. but they are so bad that no one is going to drop $250 on one since you can get an i7 for around that price.

 

[Chiropteran]

i7 don't have ECC, you need be comparing to Xeons, which carry a price premium, and make the Opteron look like a reasonable option for it's price.

 

[ShintaiDK]

i7 don't have ECC, you need be comparing to Xeons, which carry a price premium, and make the Opteron look like a reasonable option for it's price.

http://ark.intel.com/products/65729/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1245V2-(8M-Cache-3_40-GHz)

And it would run in circles around it.

And if 77W is too much. You can always go 45W.
http://ark.intel.com/products/65728/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1265LV2-(8M-Cache-2_50-GHz)

Or if 69W is ok and 20$ cheaper.
http://ark.intel.com/products/65732/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1230V2-(8M-Cache-3_30-GHz)

But again, these Xeons doesnt require a PCIe hub/Northbridge as AM3+ that adds extra power consumption.

Nobody with half a mind would buy AMD in server, performance and enthutiast segments. Its just utter crap.

 

[AtenRa]

http://ark.intel.com/products/65729/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1245V2-(8M-Cache-3_40-GHz)

And it would run in circles around it.

And if 77W is too much. You can always go 45W.
http://ark.intel.com/products/65728/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1265LV2-(8M-Cache-2_50-GHz)

Or if 69W is ok and 20$ cheaper.
http://ark.intel.com/products/65732/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1230V2-(8M-Cache-3_30-GHz)

But again, these Xeons doesnt require a PCIe hub/Northbridge as AM3+ that adds extra power consumption.

Nobody with half a mind would buy AMD in server, performance and enthutiast segments. Its just utter crap.

You thinking in two dimensional (Performance and Power) when in Server market you have to think in three dimensional including the Price.

AMD Opteron 3250 (4 cores) 45W costs $99.

Multiply this by 18 for the TYAN FM65-B8001 4U Rack Mount and you have $1782

http://www.tyan.com/product_SKU_spec.aspx?ProductType=BB&pid=462&SKU=600000294

Now cheapest Intel Xeon E3-1220 (4 cores) 45W cost $189 (TRAY)

Multiply this by 18 for the TYAN TYAN FM65B5511 4U Rack Mount and you have $3402.

http://www.tyan.com/product_SKU_spec.aspx?ProductType=BB&pid=444&SKU=600000267

Price difference is $1620

Imagine now you want to use 10 or 20 or even more of those 4U Racks for a Web Hosting company. 20x 1620 = $32400.

That price difference will help that company to have lower prices for web hosting or it will help them payback the hardware cost faster.

 

[ShintaiDK]

By that metric all servers should run on Atom. Now go figure whats wrong. And why AMD is utterly destroyed in the serverspace.

 

[Ferzerp]

This whole "AMD, when performance makes absolutely no difference, and you just need a functioning processor" line you're trying now is, I have to admit, novel at least....


Hey, maybe they'll live on in thin clients. We actually do use them there. There's no profit margin there though.

 

[Chiropteran]

By that metric all servers should run on Atom. Now go figure whats wrong. And why AMD is utterly destroyed in the serverspace.

Good job. Now go back to the start of the thread and read the post. The question is not "IS INTERL BERTTAR THAN AMD I DONT KNIOW DERP" Take your fanboy crap elsewhere.

Someone was asking why using this when i7 is similar price and performs better, the answer is i7 doesn't support ECC. Xeon does, but then it also costs more.

Also: no ECC for atom either, so it's not the answer.

 

[veri745]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113005

Here is a Socket AM3+ AMD Opteron 3280 HE 2.4GHz octocore server (Bulldozer) processor but the problem is there doesn't appear to be any Socket AM3+ server motherboards available.

My favorite part of that product page is that the picture is of a G34 opteron. They must not have pictures available of the AM3 CPUs with opteron branding.

The question is not "IS INTERL BERTTAR THAN AMD I DONT KNIOW DERP" Take your fanboy crap elsewhere.

Someone was asking why using this when i7 is similar price and performs better, the answer is i7 doesn't support ECC. Xeon does, but then it also costs more.

The question isn't that either, it was "Where are the boards that support this processor?"
Quit fanning the flame.

By that metric all servers should run on Atom. Now go figure whats wrong. And why AMD is utterly destroyed in the serverspace.

No one cares, this thread has nothing to do with anything that you've contributed.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Good job. Now go back to the start of the thread and read the post. The question is not "IS INTERL BERTTAR THAN AMD I DONT KNIOW DERP" Take your fanboy crap elsewhere.

Someone was asking why using this when i7 is similar price and performs better, the answer is i7 doesn't support ECC. Xeon does, but then it also costs more.

Also: no ECC for atom either, so it's not the answer.

Maybe you missed my post entirely:
http://ark.intel.com/products/65732/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1230V2-(8M-Cache-3_30-GHz

20$ less than the Opteron. 230$ for a 3.3Ghz Xeon with HT and ECC.

 

[Chiropteran]

Maybe you missed my post entirely:
http://ark.intel.com/products/65732/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1230V2-(8M-Cache-3_30-GHz

20$ less than the Opteron. 230$ for a 3.3Ghz Xeon with HT and ECC.

Maybe you missed the OP entirely, this is about the 8 core CPU, not a 4 core. Find me a new 8 core Xeon for ~$250 please.

 

[Ferzerp]

Find me a world where "core" with no other information is a meaningful cpu metric please.

 

[Chiropteran]

The question isn't that either, it was "Where are the boards that support this processor?"

http://www.overclock.net/t/1225201/8core-opteron-3280-se-am3-with-a-tdp-of-65-watt-observed-on-sale

This is about the Opteron 3280 SE, but maybe it will also work with the "HE" version. I'm not curious enough to read the entire thread, but it looks like it might be relevant.

Find me a world where "core" with no other information is a meaningful cpu metric please.

Why are you making random demands? Find it yourself.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Maybe you missed the OP entirely, this is about the 8 core CPU, not a 4 core. Find me a new 8 core Xeon for ~$250 please.

They are about equally as much 8 cores. One just pulled a marketing stunt. Hence why the 4 core outperforms the "8 core" so much in all metrics.

 

[Chiropteran]

They are about equally as much 8 cores. One just pulled a marketing stunt. Hence why the 4 core outperforms the "8 core" so much in all metrics.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

 

[AtenRa]

I forgot about the motherboard,

MSI has the MS-S0231 socket AM3 that will take the Opteron 3000 but most of those CPUs goes to OEMs.


http://msi.com/product/server/MS-S0231.html

This whole "AMD, when performance makes absolutely no difference, and you just need a functioning processor" line you're trying now is, I have to admit, novel at least....

Hey, maybe they'll live on in thin clients. We actually do use them there. There's no profit margin there though.

I wonder why Intel have a low cost, performance makes no absolutely no difference processor like the Celeron G530 at $42. Dont bother, let me answer that for you. Because there is a market for those processors.

http://atenra.blog.com/2012/03/20/amds-opteron-3000/

The new AMD Opteron 3000 series is targeting the entry level low cost, low power and the Web hosting data centers.