opinions on engineering schools...asu vs miami ohio vs ohio state

[rocadelpunk]

I'm probably going to major in electrical engin, but i'm not really sure yet.

I'd need somewhere that has a good music scene or a developing one. c-bus is growing slowly...miami well, college party town...my sister went there, I interviewed and visited, but there engineering department didn't seem that great. osu i was impressed, and I'll be basically going there for free.

asu...i mean the women, the weather, beautiful campus...but i don't really know much about engineering dept. my best friend is going there, and he's said he wants me to come to asu and we could get a apartment together...I definitely won't make y decision on a campus just b/c of one person.

i'm more interested in some info you guys could help me find or opinions...thanks!

 

[MrBond]

OSU has a good engineering program. It's a fun neighborhood too.

Out of state tuition is gonna be high if you go to arizona.

 

[rocadelpunk]

I think tuition for miami and asu would be ==


but like i said osu...I'll have about 1000-1500 bucks stipend, several thousand in scholarship, and it's cheap as is.

 

[EvilYoda]

What do you mean by music scene? Like club/DJs? Cuz UMich has a great program, but we don't have the pretty ladies nor a flourishing music scene.....thus, why we're not in your list, I guess.

 

[xuanman]

part of it also depends on where you want to be after graduation. if you want to be in the midwest, it will be easier with an osu degree.

 

[rocadelpunk]

well places that cater to indie rock basically...

I live for music, sleep, and eating : D so better have damn good food and music.


i listen to a lot of punk rock, indie rock, emotional punk, good pop punk : P, and just good rock. i'm not so interested in "clubs" or whatever, but that's a plus too. I just need places where bands play.

yah that's what i was thinking about...people always say oh you can go anywhere with an engineering degree, frankly after i'm done with college I don't think I'll be staying in ohio...basically i'm looking for reasons to go to asu : P or some place warm : D.


yah football will rock, as will blue jackets games and what not. don't get me wrong i like columbus, i was just kinda wondering about the quality of engineering program?

 

[brtspears2]

I'd kill for a school with a football team. Ohio State

 

[aphex]

Ever look into the University of Florida?

We have a VERY good engineering program, hot girls, good music, and a warm climate.

Look into it

 

[ElFenix]

in state tuition is a good thing. go to osu. and arizona and asu are not the same.

"getting into heaven is easier than getting into arizona state"
--ned flanders

 

[rocadelpunk]

can you guys recommend any good engineering degrees? I'm informed, but I don't really like computer science : \ so that sorta takes out those fields : P

supposedly the economy will be better once i graduate college...what would be a low, if i got some sort of engineering degree or information technology.


b/c basically i want to live comfortably and be able to support a family as well...but eventually I want to become a teacher and work at an inner-city school or just donate all my time to service. Yah florida does have a sweet scene. oh and i should mention i do like math and pyschics, but i'm not stellar at them, but I enjoy it.

how about this : P, what's the best combination of relatively easy yet well paying/and demand for, engineering degree.


hah thanks guys : P, sorry for all the dumb questions, but i have dumb college counsler, ...who doesn't send my grades to colleges i ask!

 

[fonzinator]

Best engineering school in the midwest is Purdue...hands down. They have so many engineering degrees to choose from. And if you don't like the ones they have, you can do interdisciplinary engineering and basically make up your own engineering degree. Purdue has an awesome punk/indie/ska scene with bands coming to town just about every weekend.

Purdue also has a great technology program that is similar to engineering degrees, but more hands-on. In other words - a little less theory and more application.

How are your grades/SAT/ACT scores? Purdue won't let dummies into their engineering program

 

[rocadelpunk]

haha not good. i go to top private highschool in ohio... gpa isn't weighted, but i messed around till senior year, and had a big problem with procrastination...i saw pscyhicatrists for it : \, bleh. w/o giving life story, i do so much volunteering and extra curricular stuff, varsity tennis, amnesty, service club, senior editor for literary arts mag, several more things, i don't have time to make it to library which is only place i can work as i've found out... anyway, I never applied for that extended time business, but I should have and would have qualified for it. I ended up with like a 1220 or something like that on sat's, i know crap... my act's i screwed up one section, i left about 20 blank...don't ask, every other section i got a 32 on...out of 35 ended up with a 27. my gpa cumultive before senior year was like a 2.86 or something horrendous. first semester senior year with 3 ap courses and latin 5, i have a 3.5 unweighted...but too little too late. so osu is probably all im' gonna get into : P

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
haha not good. i go to top private highschools in ohio. and gpa isn't weighted. but i messed around till senior year, and had a big problem with procrastination...i saw pscyhicatrists for it : \, bleh. w/o giving life story, i do so much volunteering and extra curricular stuff, varsity tennis, amnesty, service club, senior editor for literary arts mag, several more things, i don't have time to make it to library which is only place i can work as i've found out... anyway, I never applied for that extended time business, but I should have and would have qualified for it. I ended up with like a 1220 or something like that on sat's, i know crap... my act's i screwed up one section, i left about 20 blank...don't ask, every other section i got a 32 on...out of 35 ended up with a 27. my gpa cumultive before senior year was like a 2.86 or something horrendous. first semester senior year with 3 ap courses i have a 3.5 unweighted...but too little too late. so osu is probably all im' gonna get into : P

:Q Sounds just like me. I went to one of the top private schools in Ohio as well. I ended up going to GAtech then transferred to Ohio State. I have good insight on Miami University too, I go there a lot to see friends. Miami, as far as I knew, didn't have an engineering program at all.... but I guess I'm wrong. Ohio State's engineering program is excellent, and if for some reason you decide to change majors (which happens more often than you would think), you wouldn't have to trasnfer to any other school Growing up in Columbus, I could never goto school at Miami. That place is way too small for me, and I am from the suburbs. I like having a whole city easily acceptable.

 

[rocadelpunk]

yah it seems pretty damn clicky/abercrombieish

*miami* but my sis went there and she's definitely not that type and had a great time.

yah, they just started their engineering program up, but miami as a public school in general in recognized as pretty good.

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
yah it seems pretty damn clicky/abercrombieish

*miami* but my sis went there and she's definitely not that type and had a great time.

yah, they just started their engineering program up, but miami as a public school in general in recognized as pretty good.

I am not saying that it isn't a good school, but I just don't really like anything about it. They really know how to have fun though, but what campus doesn't?? It is very clicky, I really didn't like that part about Miami.

 

[fonzinator]

Just so you know...schools with good engineering programs will be really tough. I was in Purdue's CompEng degree for a while. It was not easy at all. For your first 1.5 or 2 years, the classes are tough as nails...designed to weed out the slackers. You don't have to be a genious to make the trough, but unless you are a genious, you will have to work harder academically than you ever have!! The one great advantage of going to a big school like Purdue or OSU, is they offer so many programs to choose from. If you can't make it through engineering, or wind up hating it like me , you have lots of other options to switch to. Smaller schools won't give you as many choices.

FYI...I switched from CompEng to a program called Industrial Management. It's a regular business/management degree but has engineering math and sciences on top. I minored in Management Info. Systems and Religious Studies.

 

[Deeko]

Drexel

 

[fonzinator]

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Miami, as far as I knew, didn't have an engineering program at all.... but I guess I'm wrong.

No, you are right...I don't think Miami of Ohio has much of an engineering program at all. When I checked out their campus and eng. programs 5 or 6 years ago, all they had was a Paper Science Engineering degree. That was it! They may have more engineering choices now, but even if they do, the programs will be very new and mostly likely, not well established.

 

[rocadelpunk]

drexel's damn expensive : P

 

[MrBond]

Univ. of Toledo has a KILLER chemical engineering program. We're having an open house on march first, pm me if you wanna come and I'll get you my (hot) advisors phone number so you can get more info. We make it very easy for incoming freshman to get acquaited to college life.

Of course, being chemical engineering, its very chemisty intensive (I'll have my chemistry minor completed after this semester). Some people don't like that.

The other engineering programs here are kind of blah. The one advantage we have is mandatory co-op. I have a buddy in ChemE at OSU and he seems to like it. You can only co-op in the summer there though, where here, we go in lieu of classes (making it a 4.5 year program).

Co-op is a great way to get work experience and earn money. The place I'm working at said basicly after I graduate, if there's a position opening up there that requires 5 years or less of experience in the industry, they'll waive that requirement for me so I can apply. Cooper Tire will hire their best co-ops out of college.

 

[da loser]

How can you argue whether purdue is better than osu? we're talking undergrad here. so many engineering degrees? to me there's only 4, mechE, chemE, civE, and EE. I wouldn't take an undegrad degree in the other engineering degrees, because it will involve too much specialization, which is dumb to limit yourself so early in your life. college should be about learning new things and finding out about yourself. If you want to really specialize, go to graduate school. imo, all large institutions would offer the same curriculum, and you'll be learning stuff known to the world for 100s of years, and then some recent stuff. being practical, i would go to osu since it's the cheapest in your scenario. being a large campus, there will be so many different people you'll never meet, so there's bound to be some with your interests.

so now, let me try to convince you that chemical engineering is where it's at you'll learn about heat transfer, fluid dynamics, thermodynamics, then reactions and processing. this will enable you to work in almost any production environment, pharmaceutical, petroleum, semiconductors, and food, where you design the equipment and process, mainly dealing with processing liquids and gases. mechE might be more interesting if you like solids, or civE if you like solids and statics. then of course there's research, but i wouldn't go into the research field without a graduate degree.

as far as job outlook, if you're at the top end of your graduating class you won't have any problems. it gets interesting in the midrange, and i'd say you're screwed if you're at the lowend. just be sure to get involved in anything that interests you, research, projects, clubs, whatever, maintain a 3.0 or above gpa and you'll be fine. as for money, it really depends on you. some people can earn 100k/yr and still be in debt, while those with 30/yr pursue their dreams. it's not about how much you make, but how much you want. in terms of ease, i'd say civE>mechE>ChemE>EE (i put EE harder, because to me I hate abstract math/concepts, and EE has little physical/natural reasoning at all to me), but this is entirely BS because it depends on the ease at which you can learn and understand the material.

 

[Spac3d]

Originally posted by: fonzinator
Best engineering school in the midwest is Purdue...hands down. They have so many engineering degrees to choose from. And if you don't like the ones they have, you can do interdisciplinary engineering and basically make up your own engineering degree. Purdue has an awesome punk/indie/ska scene with bands coming to town just about every weekend.

Purdue also has a great technology program that is similar to engineering degrees, but more hands-on. In other words - a little less theory and more application.

How are your grades/SAT/ACT scores? Purdue won't let dummies into their engineering program

I found Purdue's engineering easy to get in. If you are a minority, I swear all you need is a pulse to get in. They have a good engineering school, but I would not say it is the best in Midwest. I would say Michigan has the best. OSU and U of Illinois are right there as well.

 

[acidvoodoo]

my dad lives in arizona and wanted me to look into ASU. I have looked at it a bit, and it seems you will have a GREAT social life, lots of girls, great weather, it's in a nice town, the dorms look really nice, etc.

on the other hand, it isn't well known academicly, not to say it is definetly bad though. Looking on their website they conduct some very interesting research, and were responsible for working on a satelite to be sent to mars.



as for your major, you have to ask yourself what you like. Do you like math, do you like physics, do you like programming, do you like electronics.

i personally don't like math, but i don't hate it, and am good at it. I enjoy phyics. I have never programmed properly but i don't think i'd like to sit infront of a screen coding. Electronics seem cool, but i think i'd find it really difficult. Because of this, i've looked into majors like aerospace and physics

you have to do the same

 

[Mani]

Originally posted by: Spac3d

Originally posted by: fonzinator
Best engineering school in the midwest is Purdue...hands down. They have so many engineering degrees to choose from. And if you don't like the ones they have, you can do interdisciplinary engineering and basically make up your own engineering degree. Purdue has an awesome punk/indie/ska scene with bands coming to town just about every weekend.

Purdue also has a great technology program that is similar to engineering degrees, but more hands-on. In other words - a little less theory and more application.

How are your grades/SAT/ACT scores? Purdue won't let dummies into their engineering program

I found Purdue's engineering easy to get in. If you are a minority, I swear all you need is a pulse to get in. They have a good engineering school, but I would not say it is the best in Midwest. I would say Michigan has the best. OSU and U of Illinois are right there as well.

Yeah Purdue's Eng school isn't bad, but it doesn't touch Mich or UIUC. Plus a couple guys I know that went to Purdue said the guy/girl ratio is something like 70-30 or something like that...ouch. At least with Mich you can go down to the central part of campus where the liberal arts chicks and sororities are and you can chill down there.

 

[Deeko]

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
drexel's damn expensive : P

Yea, it is, but they are pretty generous with their scholarships, I get 9K/year academic, 6.5K/year grant, and 3.5K/year state grant, basically, it covers the tuition. Drexel shafts you pretty good in room and board, roughly 9K/year. That is why most people stay off campus in the many apartments in university city, its nicer and its cheaper.

Also factor in co-op. If you were in the engineering program, you would be in the 5 year co-op program, so the middle 3 years you would have a 6 month co-op period. Average pay for a 6 month engineering co-op is about $14K. That ain't bad. Drexel is a very good school that doesn't get as much recognition as it deserves. I know some people here, including a guy across the hall, who got in Penn(right next door to us), but is going to Drexel instead, because our engineering program is that much better. He is from cali even.