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Traxan

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My NOD32 license is set to expire and I'm questioning whether or not to renew. Is ESET still at the top of its game or do you think there are greener fields to be explored?
 

Berryracer

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AV-Comparatives - Real World Tests

AV-TEST

Protection wise it's excellent and it also catches PUPs (Potentially Unwanted Programs) by default unlike other AVs and even the AV only (which is what I use since I don't like how heavy the security suite is) can block bad HTTP / Malicious connections so I don't even need anything more than the Windows Firewall.

Unfortunately, it is one of the heaviest antivirus programs I have used though. So why do I use it? because every other AV I've tried has much more quirks like stupid toolbars, bloatware like system optimizers, etc. so it remains the best for me at least
 
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smakme7757

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If you're happy with ESET just stay with it. I use their A/V (not Internet Security) and I don't find it to be a "heavy" piece of software.

Trend is worth looking at. Decent piece of software.
 

Berryracer

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If you're happy with ESET just stay with it. I use their A/V (not Internet Security) and I don't find it to be a "heavy" piece of software.

Trend is worth looking at. Decent piece of software.
I actually like the new Trend Micro a lot, excellent security and very light EXCEPT for this long standing bug that they still didn't fix for a year.....

after it install its Firefox extensions, try opening like 10+ tabs which I usually do to check for updates to software I have all the bookmarks for updates in a folder (around 45) and my Firefox would crawl to a halt..... :(

On a side note, thanks for reminding me about Trend Micro, I will install the Trend Micro Security+ Antivirus again to see if they fixed the slowdown with firefox
 
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Traxan

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You sure it wasn't Firefox's fault? It can be notoriously slow.

As for just sticking with ESET, it's twofold: I've seen a few roundups that seem to indicate NOD32 has slipped, and at $60 I was looking for a cheaper alternative.

Another reason I ask is these tests tend to focus on tests that don't really mirror real world use. I tried Webroot's AV product and it was a gigantic pain in the ass. Constant false positives on harmless Web sites, not letting me override the block, etc. I removed it after a week. You don't get reports like that from AV-Test, you get them from users.
 
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Berryracer

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You sure it wasn't Firefox's fault? It can be notoriously slow.

As for just sticking with ESET, it's twofold: I've seen a few roundups that seem to indicate NOD32 has slipped, and at $60 I was looking for a cheaper alternative.

Another reason I ask is these tests tend to focus on tests that don't really mirror real world use. I tried Webroot's AV product and it was a gigantic pain in the ass. Constant false positives on harmless Web sites, not letting me override the block, etc. I removed it after a week. You don't get reports like that from AV-Test, you get them from users.
I have a 3 year license for Webfruit SecureNowhere AV, as you said, it is plagued with so many false positives, now when I get a virus while using WSA I cannot be sure if it's reall a virus or a false positive so I have to go and research it on virustotal.com, no thanks, I have no time for this junk.

I have been using Trend Micro AV+ for a day now it seems they fixed the issue with Firefox many tabs opening slowdown. It's super duper light compared to NOD32

Highly recommended.
 

Berryracer

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Just released:

Real world protection test may 2015



And the winner is..... Trend micro!!!

AV-TEST

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The one reason I've stuck with Nod32 AV is the consistency and protection. Still is one of the lightest AV around in terms of resources (around 100mb) and it does its business without much ado from the user. You barely notice is there, simplicity at it's best without annoying the user.

Unlike some others that constantly pop up this, that or the other that require some interaction from you to let you know they're working. No thanks!
 

xSauronx

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W0w Microsoft Security Essentials is not included in this protection test ... should I worry ? (I'm currently using Security Essentials on my Win 8.1)

it has not been worth using for a couple of years now.
i like bitdefender at home, but at home i dont really do much risky
i love kaspersky at work. it keeps my people safe. and they are horrible.
 

Berryracer

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W0w Microsoft Security Essentials is not included in this protection test ... should I worry ? (I'm currently using Security Essentials on my Win 8.1)
They've been disqualified from these tests many months ago as they failed any sort of certification to be even included in these tests. That's the same time which Microsoft advised users that they should rely on a full fledged proper AV rather than just using MSE/Windows Pretender
 

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I quit using automatic real time AV 3rd Party App's 10 years ago and don't run them today. I rely on Free Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware , McAfee AVERT Stinger (Great App), MS Malicious Tool and occasionally Windows defender between OS Backup Images every 2 or 3 months - AV MANUAL RUNS ONLY.

Don't want any Real Time AV Software running in the Back Ground - PERIOD. That is NO Real Time AV Software or any AV Sofware I have no control over and can NOT run Manually.

Real Time AV Software does not promise you that you will not be infected and be able to save you OS and personal files other then they will rid the infection = What a COSTLY Joke.

I just want a CLEAN Backup Image overwrite in 20 minutes no matter how much trouble I get into and that includes MS UpDates or any Money Grabbing Co that's wants to F^#*' with my System.

I can Over-Write and Reboot with a CLEAN BASIC OS Virus Free OS within 20 minutes and not divulge my ID.
 
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xgsound

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W0w Microsoft Security Essentials is not included in this protection test ... should I worry ? (I'm currently using Security Essentials on my Win 8.1)

Worry ... No. Instead find another A/V and periodically scan with your favorite virus/ malware finding programs. My minimum (10 15 minutes) scan is TDSSKiller and AdwCleaner from Bleeping computer.

According to this comparitive test record from June 2014, MSE on XP catches almost nothing. http://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-xp/ You can click on the OS you wish to check on and see the last several test results. Defender on Win8.1 has a zero score and MSE on Win7 has a score of (1/2) one half a point.

My experience with Bit Defender free is that no interaction or payment is needed after install and log-in. I stop auto scan and scan (rarely) as necessary. It is very low impact.

I use Bit Defender on the relatives XP, Vista, Win7, and Win8.1 computers also because any interaction is a poor idea for most of them.
 

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Bit Defender will look into that but an UpDated McAfee AVERT Stinger manually run between Backups is about all I need.
 
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Berryracer

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Just canceled my order of Trend Micro Antivirus+ due to many false positives, their false positives submission site is broken, when I submit a file, it returns back with an error that I didn't select any file. So I contacted their online chat support which was a horrible experience so I copy/pasted the chat and requested for a refund.

Using Norton Security now.
 

Z15CAM

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I always config my AV's to Scan Manually and REPORT. I will remove the threats Manually. I never config an AV App to Auto-Remove threats where I can remove threats manually and the next scan reports NIL - Leaving ARTEMIS BackDoor alone.

Pertain Threat Module Files I no doubt attributed Read ONLY where AV Scans place them on an Ignore List.

I don't break my System or waste my time where I have to pay talking to a tech that knows less then me over security about the protection of my OS and personal files.

All real time AV Software are Money SAMS, where all you need is a Clean Backup to get up and running no matter how much CRAP you got into.
 
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sbpromania

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Worry ... No. Instead find another A/V and periodically scan with your favorite virus/ malware finding programs. My minimum (10 15 minutes) scan is TDSSKiller and AdwCleaner from Bleeping computer.

According to this comparitive test record from June 2014, MSE on XP catches almost nothing. http://www.av-test.org/en/antivirus/home-windows/windows-xp/ You can click on the OS you wish to check on and see the last several test results. Defender on Win8.1 has a zero score and MSE on Win7 has a score of (1/2) one half a point.

My experience with Bit Defender free is that no interaction or payment is needed after install and log-in. I stop auto scan and scan (rarely) as necessary. It is very low impact.

I use Bit Defender on the relatives XP, Vista, Win7, and Win8.1 computers also because any interaction is a poor idea for most of them.

Thanks for your feedback.... I will make the change and I will install BitDefender free edition.
 

John Connor

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Bitdefender Free and Sandboxie here. Throw in NoScrip for good measure. I scan the computer with Malwarebytes and superantispyware, Herdprotect, Freefixer, Adwcleaner and several others. Not to mention I scan all downloaded files with virustotal.
 

Berryracer

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Bitdefender Free and Sandboxie here. Throw in NoScrip for good measure. I scan the computer with Malwarebytes and superantispyware, Herdprotect, Freefixer, Adwcleaner and several others. Not to mention I scan all downloaded files with virustotal.
Very g00d choice.

Bitedefender Free is the only AV that has no ads and has very good detection rates. no extra useless bloat like system optimizers or junk file cleaners, a pure good AV.
 

John Connor

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Not gamer friendly when you're a hacker though. :\ So I don't used anti-virus on the desktop which is more of my gaming computer. Bitdefender messes with debugging. So if you have some mod or whatever that uses debugging Bitdefender will interfere.
 

Z15CAM

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Not gamer friendly when you're a hacker though. :\ So I don't used anti-virus on the desktop which is more of my gaming computer. Bitdefender messes with debugging. So if you have some mod or whatever that uses debugging Bitdefender will interfere.
You're one SICK SOB GEEK - I stick with McAfee AVERT Stinger [64] - LOL

What do you think about MS Malicious Tool [64] and Defender?

We're Dead in the water after you said the Word "Hacker" on AT Forums. I don't Hack No Body, I only hack my own System.
 
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