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Opinions: Anything better than Yamaha 24x10x40 CRW3200??

rimshaker

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I normally do the research myself but i don't got time today. There are so many manufactureres in the CDRW business now. Does Yamaha pretty much have all the nifty features of all of them? Or is Plextor the better product? This BB 10% coupon expires today as well, and i got a bunch of gift cards too 🙂 Brings my total cost down to well below $100 with that $30 rebate. Thx.
 
I have a Yamaha 3200e and am impressed with it.
I won mine, but if I was going to go out and buy one this would be the drive for me..
 
Well, I knew that already.

But personally I don't really trust those Yamaha drives, honestly. I would go the plextor for consistency, as Yamaha didn't have a good history of make good cd rewriters before.
 
I'm not after the burning speed, i'm after the quality and product features. Who cares if a drive can burn at 40x, or 32x. 24x is plenty for all practical purposes.
 
For quality, many believe that Plextors are the best. Their aren't really any differences between features of the fast burners anymore. They all have some kind of burnproof technology.
 
I like Yamaha and have had good experience with them in the past. They supposedly will do an exact digital copy of a cd too.
Is this Yamaha scsi or ide?
 
It's the IDE version. The huge 8MB buffer is what's grabbing my attention on the Yamaha. The blue LED is cool too i guess 🙂
 
Well, when you have either burn proof or just link, orh both, it's quite pointless for the 8MB buffer.

I mean if you ask people who has plextors, their only thing on them is the price, that is plextor are definitely more pricey than other brand.
 
I would have to cut in, all these talk about Yamaha not being consistent and not up to Plextor's quality is just a farce. Any actual experiences behind these claims? I doubt it. Because Yamaha has been making CD-RWs as long as anyone else, and their quality can stack it up to anyone. This is why Yamaha's 24x is the best 24x in the world,

1. P-CAV. The Partial-CAV technology is currently unique to Yamaha burners. And this is the sole reason why Yamaha owns the 24x class. P-CAV steadily increases speed starting from 16x and reaches the peak of 24x by the 14 minute mark. This gives Yamaha an average speed of ~23.6x, that compares to ~22.7x turned in by the Zone-CLV technology which every other 24x burner uses. P-CAV completely eliminate the zones, and it's easier on the motor because it doesn't have to spin down and up during a "zone change", not to mention P-CAV will not create any gaps like the Z-CLV does requiring the laser to stop during a "zone change".

2. CD-RW read speed. Yamaha can read CD-RW disks as fast as they read pressed and CD-R disks. What's so special about that? It is special because currently there are only two other burners capable of doing this, AOpen's 24x and Plextor's 40x. This is important to users who use CD-RW discs a lot.

3. SafeBurn. Currently the best anti-coaster protection system. To start things off, Yamaha has a huge 8MB buffer, twice as much as Plextor's and 4 times Lite-On's; coaster protection or not, it's still nice to have a big buffer. SafeBurn's ExactLink technology is also better than BurnProof or JustLink, it works just like the competing solutions, except it creates "virtually zero gaps" that are less than 1um, this is over 40 times as small a gap as 1st generation BurnProof creates.

4. AudioMaster. Yamaha's new audio recording mode which amplifies the pits and lands on the CD to decrease jitter. The obvious disadvantage is that you lose some time on the CD, a 74min CD can only use 63mins when AudioMaster is turned on. Audiophiles will love this feature.

5. Mt. Rainier. The first CD-RW ever to utilize this format, other companies have followed suit, but this feature will revolutionize the way CD rewrites are handled. Definitely a nice feature to have, as far as I know the only other burner with this feature enabled in the shipping units is the Plextor 40x. TEAC will also have it by a firmware update.

6. Purple/Ice Blue LED. Not much of an advantage here, but it's very pleasing visually.

So there you have it. If Yamaha comes out with a 40x CD-RW now, it will be a clear favorite. But right now your choice at the 40x level is pretty much limited to Plextor and Lite-On. On the 24x ground though, the Yamaha CRW3200E owns. Go with your instincts, don't let someone with no experience talk you out of it.
 
Thanks LXi. I already bought it anyway. With the BB coupon, a bunch of gift cards, and that $30 MIR.... total cost for me for this CRW3200 is like $50 🙂 Can't beat that i guess. I could've just bought a TDK, or Sony, or Samung, or LG and gotten it for free... .but oh well.
 
"Anything better than Yamaha 24x10x40 CRW3200??

I'm not after the burning speed, i'm after the quality and product features."



Then, NO nothing is better than the Yamaha. No other drive has anything close to Audiomaster.
 


<< I would have to cut in, all these talk about Yamaha not being consistent and not up to Plextor's quality is just a farce. Any actual experiences behind these claims? I doubt it. Because Yamaha has been making CD-RWs as long as anyone else, and their quality can stack it up to anyone. This is why Yamaha's 24x is the best 24x in the world,

1. P-CAV. The Partial-CAV technology is currently unique to Yamaha burners. And this is the sole reason why Yamaha owns the 24x class. P-CAV steadily increases speed starting from 16x and reaches the peak of 24x by the 14 minute mark. This gives Yamaha an average speed of ~23.6x, that compares to ~22.7x turned in by the Zone-CLV technology which every other 24x burner uses. P-CAV completely eliminate the zones, and it's easier on the motor because it doesn't have to spin down and up during a "zone change", not to mention P-CAV will not create any gaps like the Z-CLV does requiring the laser to stop during a "zone change".

2. CD-RW read speed. Yamaha can read CD-RW disks as fast as they read pressed and CD-R disks. What's so special about that? It is special because currently there are only two other burners capable of doing this, AOpen's 24x and Plextor's 40x. This is important to users who use CD-RW discs a lot.

3. SafeBurn. Currently the best anti-coaster protection system. To start things off, Yamaha has a huge 8MB buffer, twice as much as Plextor's and 4 times Lite-On's; coaster protection or not, it's still nice to have a big buffer. SafeBurn's ExactLink technology is also better than BurnProof or JustLink, it works just like the competing solutions, except it creates "virtually zero gaps" that are less than 1um, this is over 40 times as small a gap as 1st generation BurnProof creates.

4. AudioMaster. Yamaha's new audio recording mode which amplifies the pits and lands on the CD to decrease jitter. The obvious disadvantage is that you lose some time on the CD, a 74min CD can only use 63mins when AudioMaster is turned on. Audiophiles will love this feature.

5. Mt. Rainier. The first CD-RW ever to utilize this format, other companies have followed suit, but this feature will revolutionize the way CD rewrites are handled. Definitely a nice feature to have, as far as I know the only other burner with this feature enabled in the shipping units is the Plextor 40x. TEAC will also have it by a firmware update.

6. Purple/Ice Blue LED. Not much of an advantage here, but it's very pleasing visually.

So there you have it. If Yamaha comes out with a 40x CD-RW now, it will be a clear favorite. But right now your choice at the 40x level is pretty much limited to Plextor and Lite-On. On the 24x ground though, the Yamaha CRW3200E owns. Go with your instincts, don't let someone with no experience talk you out of it.
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That was a fine post. The Yamaha also has one of the better seek times, and it doesn't steadily rise to 24x per se--it rises rapidly to 20x, then slowly rises to 24x.
 
Don't forget that burning time increases each time any forms of burn proof kicks in. So the 8MB buffer would certainly help.
 
Teac CD-W524E.

Good:
Fastest seek times.
Best media compatibility of any burner on the market.
Ultra-quiet
Does EFM encoding (almost) correctly. Yamaha does not. Lite-On probably best for this.
Good build quality.
Perfect DAE.
Much cheaper than Yamaha.

Bad:
Not as fast as Yamaha.
2 MB buffer.



<< SafeBurn's ExactLink technology is also better than BurnProof or JustLink, it works just like the competing solutions, except it creates "virtually zero gaps" that are less than 1um, this is over 40 times as small a gap as 1st generation BurnProof creates. >>

Nowadays, burnproof gaps are much smaller. I don't know the the exact numbers however. Some say < 5 microns, and some say < 1. Dunno which is true.

EDIT:

Burnproof now is 2-5 microns supposedly, but I don't know which drives support this. JustLink is 2 microns or less. Orange book specifications require 100 microns or less.
 
Diggin up an old post here, but I had a similar question. Either the Yamaha 24x, or a LiteOn 40x. Right now Im really leaning toward the Yamaha because of its Audio Master feature. My car CD player has trouble reading media, and this feature should help it. 90% of the stuff I burn is Audio CD's anyway. CDR Info gave the 24x Yamaha the Editors Choice award, and they gave the 40x LiteOn the Safe buy award. Anyone have any opinions?
 
So the Lite On 32x or 40x would be a better buy. I didnt realize that yamaha is going for 180 bux @ frys! (30 dollar rebate, but still).
 
Hehe, my friend picked up that Yamaha 24x12x40x at BB about a month ago for $99 after $30 mail in rebate. I was shocked to see it for so cheap. I came back a couple days later at it was at $180 🙁 and some similarly specd TEAC drive was marked the same way as the yamaha was when it was on sale. I think they may have mispriced the Yamaha. Anyway, good drive.
 
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