Opie and Anthony Suspended from XM Radio

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elmro

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I think it is interesting that most people don't raise heck for prison rape jokes ("Don't drop the soap...").
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
They and others thought so. I on the other hand find little of what O&A does to be funny, about on the same par as your thread talking about how much your feces stinks.

They only thing that offends me is when hypocritical stick in the butts like you think you can be a moral compass for others.

Well, if you weren't a "hypocritical stick in the butt" yourself, on different topics, that would really hurt. But since you think rape and poop are similar kinds of humor, I can't take your opinion very seriously.

George Carlin - rape CAN be funny
 

natto fire

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: mooncancook
Craving for unedited and explicit and offending contents? that's kind of pathetic. No wonder Jerry Springer did so well in America. Sad.

Wow, you pegged that one. :beer:

That could actually go both ways. Craving knee-jerk reactions and retribution for mere words? That's kind of pathetic, no wonder the court system is so screwed up in America.

What ever happened to sticks and stones? I could see everyone getting up in arms about them broadcasting an actual rape over the radio, but some bum suggesting it about people he will never even meet? Yeah, it speaks volumes about this guys personality, as well as the people who found it funny, but I doubt anyone here has ever been homeless, so it is pretty tough to judge. (What am I saying, this is ATOT, it is easy for anyone to judge anything, but in the real world, it would be)

Obviously, being a private company the freedom of speech argument is moot, but I could have sworn one of those sat radio companies was always pimping no censorship in their commercials. Seems kind of hypocritical, and if those free subscription offers are true, then they are definitely feeling a bit nervous about their hypocrisy.
 

BD2003

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After 2 damn hours on hold I was finally able to get thought to a CSR to cancel...they went as far as to try to bribe me with 3 months free on both my radios. There's really no point left in satellite radio - after adding so many channels and straining the bandwidth, the sound quality of the music is about at the level of AM radio, which I'm sure will only get even worse after they merge if they plan on supporting all the older radios with more new programming. 4 years ago when I first subscribed it was awesome...sounded like a CD. Now its just garbage.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: sixone
you think rape and poop are similar
The acts no, the topics as jokes yes, very low brow.

There was no joke, without some understanding of the act. And I guarantee, if someone was "joking" about raping your wife, they'd be out of here so fast, their head would spin. And at least that fast if it was posted on TFNN.
 

UNCjigga

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This reminds me, I need to cancel my XM!

My free trial ended in November but I never cancelled (didn't see the credit card charges). Now I just saw a one month charge on my April bill, so its time to cancel!
 

dartworth

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Originally posted by: BD2003
After 2 damn hours on hold I was finally able to get thought to a CSR to cancel...they went as far as to try to bribe me with 3 months free on both my radios. There's really no point left in satellite radio - after adding so many channels and straining the bandwidth, the sound quality of the music is about at the level of AM radio, which I'm sure will only get even worse after they merge if they plan on supporting all the older radios with more new programming. 4 years ago when I first subscribed it was awesome...sounded like a CD. Now its just garbage.

took me 20 minutes...
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: sixone
you think rape and poop are similar
The acts no, the topics as jokes yes, very low brow.

There was no joke, without some understanding of the act. And I guarantee, if someone was "joking" about raping your wife, they'd be out of here so fast, their head would spin. And at least that fast if it was posted on TFNN.
I said I don't have a problem with XM doing what they did except that they advertized that show as a no holds barred everything goes situation. This Forum doesn't advertise itself as such a place so such a comment would have consequences. On the other hand TFNN does advertise itself as such a place which is why it seems rather hypocritical that you who is in charge over there would come across as such a stiff stick in the butt Ninny regarding such a topic.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: sixone
you think rape and poop are similar
The acts no, the topics as jokes yes, very low brow.

There was no joke, without some understanding of the act. And I guarantee, if someone was "joking" about raping your wife, they'd be out of here so fast, their head would spin. And at least that fast if it was posted on TFNN.
I said I don't have a problem with XM doing what they did except that they advertized that show as a no holds barred everything goes situation. This Forum doesn't advertise itself as such a place so such a comment would have consequences. On the other hand TFNN does advertise itself as such a place which is why it seems rather hypocritical that you who is in charge over there would come across as such a stiff stick in the butt Ninny regarding such a topic.

Where's that TFNN ad? I'd like to see it. And where have I ever expressed opinions about rape, other than what I've stated here? That's sort of required to make me a hypocrite, don't you think?

And do try to make your point without commenting on what's in my ass, or calling me names, if that's possible. I've heard that's frowned on here, thought I'm none too sure at this point.

 

classy

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Originally posted by: AMDZen
Thank the great Rev. Al Sharpton

Same reason Don Imus got fired

Al Sharpton had nothing to do with this :roll:

You can't go on the radio after a NCAA women's championship game and refer to one team as nappy headed hoes and jigaboos.
And you can't bring people on a show and let them talk about raping women, let alone national women at that.
If you and many other folks can't understand that, then seek counseling.
 

dartworth

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You can't compare Imus to O&A...

Imus was on terrestrial radio...O&A on XM is a paid subscription service...
 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Thank the great Rev. Al Sharpton

Same reason Don Imus got fired

Al Sharpton had nothing to do with this :roll:

You can't go on the radio after a NCAA women's championship game and refer to one team as nappy headed hoes and jigaboos.
And you can't bring people on a show and let them talk about raping women, let alone national women at that.
If you and many other folks can't understand that, then seek counseling.

What about talking about raping men? Or offending another championship team?
 

NYHoustonman

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Thank the great Rev. Al Sharpton

Same reason Don Imus got fired

Al Sharpton had nothing to do with this :roll:

You can't go on the radio after a NCAA women's championship game and refer to one team as nappy headed hoes and jigaboos.
And you can't bring people on a show and let them talk about raping women, let alone national women at that.
If you and many other folks can't understand that, then seek counseling.


I would if there was a remotely good reason to besides comments like this from 'holier than thou' forumites.
 

NYHoustonman

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: sixone
you think rape and poop are similar
The acts no, the topics as jokes yes, very low brow.

There was no joke, without some understanding of the act. And I guarantee, if someone was "joking" about raping your wife, they'd be out of here so fast, their head would spin. And at least that fast if it was posted on TFNN.
I said I don't have a problem with XM doing what they did except that they advertized that show as a no holds barred everything goes situation. This Forum doesn't advertise itself as such a place so such a comment would have consequences. On the other hand TFNN does advertise itself as such a place which is why it seems rather hypocritical that you who is in charge over there would come across as such a stiff stick in the butt Ninny regarding such a topic.

Where's that ad? I'd like to see it.

Here's one of their official TV spots:

(rest of site may be NSFW)
http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony...3755/page/show_video_number_13755.html

 

classy

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: AMDZen
Thank the great Rev. Al Sharpton

Same reason Don Imus got fired

Al Sharpton had nothing to do with this :roll:

You can't go on the radio after a NCAA women's championship game and refer to one team as nappy headed hoes and jigaboos.
And you can't bring people on a show and let them talk about raping women, let alone national women at that.
If you and many other folks can't understand that, then seek counseling.

What about talking about raping men? Or offending another championship team?

You know I laugh when I read these posts. I just don't understand why its so hard to understand. Sponsors pay the bills, plain and simple. You can't just say what you want, especially when you blatantly attack a group or persons by name. You just can't do it and then hide behind some freedom of speech stuff. This is not a hard concept to understand.

 

sixone

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Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: sixone
you think rape and poop are similar
The acts no, the topics as jokes yes, very low brow.

There was no joke, without some understanding of the act. And I guarantee, if someone was "joking" about raping your wife, they'd be out of here so fast, their head would spin. And at least that fast if it was posted on TFNN.
I said I don't have a problem with XM doing what they did except that they advertized that show as a no holds barred everything goes situation. This Forum doesn't advertise itself as such a place so such a comment would have consequences. On the other hand TFNN does advertise itself as such a place which is why it seems rather hypocritical that you who is in charge over there would come across as such a stiff stick in the butt Ninny regarding such a topic.

Where's that ad? I'd like to see it.

Here's one of their official TV spots:

(rest of site may be NSFW)
http://www.foundrymusic.com/opieanthony...3755/page/show_video_number_13755.html

Sorry if I was unclear. I was referring to RD's claim about TFNN's advertising.
 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: Number1
Originally posted by: toekramp
Cancelled my account. They offered me free stuff, but I want XM to actually understand how much this pisses people off.

Was that show the only one you listenned to on XM?
Are there other satelite radio services?
Are you going to resubscribe when they are back on the air?
Is there a reactivation fee when you resubscribe?

It's the main reason i had my set, but i also listend to 81 (BPM) and 150 (xL Comedy)
Only othe sat radio is Sirius..which is merging with XM
Yes
There may be, but you can have it waived
 

jonks

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Does anyone even understand that "freedom of speech" means that the GOVERNMENT is limited in what it can repress? Individual persons, corporations, broadcast networks can censor to their hearts' content. Everytime a company fires or suspends someone for something they said, the victim doesn't get to cry "freedom of speech" unless their employer was a government entity.

Stop with the whining about how this isn't really a free country because you can't go to work and tell your boss to blow you without getting fired.

The issue gets muddied when the FCC starts fining people because that IS the government. It gets muddied when public schools censor students because public schools are government run. Private companies and individuals should be encouraged to self-censor as appropriate. I don't scream "******" at work, it doesn't mean this isn't a free country.

As for O&A, I can't imagine anyone listening was offended, as everyone knows their schtick, and Howard's schtick, and all shock jock schtick. I don't have XM but don't you have to pay extra to get O&A? Who would pay to hear something that they know is going to offend them? This is part of the Imus backlash, and unfortunate. When shock jocks start apologizing you know the country has gotten too sensitive.
 

NYHoustonman

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Originally posted by: sirjonk
Does anyone even understand that "freedom of speech" means that the GOVERNMENT is limited in what it can repress? Individual persons, corporations, broadcast networks can censor to their hearts' content. Everytime a company fires or suspends someone for something they said, the victim doesn't get to cry "freedom of speech" unless their employer was a government entity.

Stop with the whining about how this isn't really a free country because you can't go to work and tell your boss to blow you without getting fired.

The issue gets muddied when the FCC starts fining people because that IS the government. It gets muddied when public schools censor students because public schools are government run. Private companies and individuals should be encouraged to self-censor as appropriate. I don't scream "******" at work, it doesn't mean this isn't a free country.

As for O&A, I can't imagine anyone listening was offended, as everyone knows their schtick, and Howard's schtick, and all shock jock schtick. I don't have XM but don't you have to pay extra to get O&A? Who would pay to hear something that they know is going to offend them? This is part of the Imus backlash, and unfortunate. When shock jocks start apologizing you know the country has gotten too sensitive.

I think we're pretty much past the freedom of speech argument.

You don't have to pay extra for O&A anymore, so it isn't entirely valid to say that you don't have to pay for it if you don't want, but you have to pay for XM and have the option of blocking any XL channels you should so choose. The real kicker is that, most likely, the majority of the 'complainers' don't even have XM.

It's also been speculated that a lot of the e-mails sent in support of O&A (criticizing XM for making them apologize) were seen as e-mails looking for O&A to be punished; some forum members of certain other websites have reported replies to their e-mails suggesting this.
 

patentman

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They are idiots, good riddance.

Seriously, they should have been banned from radio when they encouraged a couple to have sex in a church during mass. They have no respect for anyone, not even themselves. Maybe they will learn some if they are penniless for a while.
 

mugs

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Canceling XM because they suspended O&A is as stupid as canceling XM if they didn't do anything about O&A's comments.
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Originally posted by: WingZero94
Originally posted by: Solace666
They had a homeless guy on who was talking about having sex with Condeliza rice and the first lady. You might not find it funny or appropriate but XM should not have any sensorship.


No, he was talking about RAPE. Don't play it down.

On an XL channel known for this kind of humor (XL meaning it is easily blockable). It was a little one-and-a-half minute bit in which O&A hardly took part - not saying they're not responsible - on an XM station that relies on its lack of censorship for many of its customers. I can think of far more 'edgy' things they've done, not sure why they're being singled out on this one...

It seems XM has standards to maintain.

It just seems strange to me that they've done so much 'worse,' and yet the second the national media catches wind of one of these bits (and, let's be honest, this was back-page news) XM backs down. Where were their standards before, if this is all about them 'doing the right thing?'

They've done worse than saying they really want to RAPE the First Lady? WTF kind of show is this?
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Originally posted by: WingZero94
Originally posted by: Solace666
They had a homeless guy on who was talking about having sex with Condeliza rice and the first lady. You might not find it funny or appropriate but XM should not have any sensorship.


No, he was talking about RAPE. Don't play it down.

On an XL channel known for this kind of humor (XL meaning it is easily blockable). It was a little one-and-a-half minute bit in which O&A hardly took part - not saying they're not responsible - on an XM station that relies on its lack of censorship for many of its customers. I can think of far more 'edgy' things they've done, not sure why they're being singled out on this one...

It seems XM has standards to maintain.

It just seems strange to me that they've done so much 'worse,' and yet the second the national media catches wind of one of these bits (and, let's be honest, this was back-page news) XM backs down. Where were their standards before, if this is all about them 'doing the right thing?'

They've done worse than saying they really want to RAPE the First Lady? WTF kind of show is this?

Pssst, they never said that, some loon said it and they made fun of him for saying it.