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BD2003

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Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NYHoustonman
Originally posted by: WingZero94
Originally posted by: Solace666
They had a homeless guy on who was talking about having sex with Condeliza rice and the first lady. You might not find it funny or appropriate but XM should not have any sensorship.


No, he was talking about RAPE. Don't play it down.

On an XL channel known for this kind of humor (XL meaning it is easily blockable). It was a little one-and-a-half minute bit in which O&A hardly took part - not saying they're not responsible - on an XM station that relies on its lack of censorship for many of its customers. I can think of far more 'edgy' things they've done, not sure why they're being singled out on this one...

It seems XM has standards to maintain.

It just seems strange to me that they've done so much 'worse,' and yet the second the national media catches wind of one of these bits (and, let's be honest, this was back-page news) XM backs down. Where were their standards before, if this is all about them 'doing the right thing?'

They've done worse than saying they really want to RAPE the First Lady? WTF kind of show is this?

1) They didnt say it. A bum did. All they did was egg him on and laugh about it. And what they were laughing about was how outrageous the bum was, not the actual act of boning the first lady.

2) The bum who DID say it never mentioned or implied rape. All he said was that they needed some dick and he'd give it to them. Really no different than the "I'd hit it" you commonly hear on this board, just a bit less tactful. The media is spinning it as rape to oversimplify it and amplify the "outrage".

Stop believing what you hear at face value.

It's a pretty stupid, often offensive to all people, yet damn funny show, no less or more offensive than chapelle, chris rock etc (which are pretty damn offensive)
 

JoPh

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the skit was about a bums sexual aggressive fantasy with a woman he could never and how he wants to have rough sex. its like locker room talk.. like saying i *** the hell out of her or like telling your boy what i would do to her if..........etc etc



listen to the whole skit before you say stuff.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: BD2003
1) They didnt say it. A bum did. All they did was egg him on and laugh about it. And what they were laughing about was how outrageous the bum was, not the actual act of boning the first lady.

2) The bum who DID say it never mentioned or implied rape. All he said was that they needed some dick and he'd give it to them. Really no different than the "I'd hit it" you commonly hear on this board, just a bit less tactful. The media is spinning it as rape to oversimplify it and amplify the "outrage".

Stop believing what you hear at face value.

It's a pretty stupid, often offensive to all people, yet damn funny show, no less or more offensive than chapelle, chris rock etc (which are pretty damn offensive)

"Holding her down" is a pretty clear implication of rape. How about "punching her in the face" and "seeing "the horror on her face"? And those three quotes didn't come only from the bum, either.

The face value is pretty obvious.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: BD2003
1) They didnt say it. A bum did. All they did was egg him on and laugh about it. And what they were laughing about was how outrageous the bum was, not the actual act of boning the first lady.

2) The bum who DID say it never mentioned or implied rape. All he said was that they needed some dick and he'd give it to them. Really no different than the "I'd hit it" you commonly hear on this board, just a bit less tactful. The media is spinning it as rape to oversimplify it and amplify the "outrage".

Stop believing what you hear at face value.

It's a pretty stupid, often offensive to all people, yet damn funny show, no less or more offensive than chapelle, chris rock etc (which are pretty damn offensive)

"Holding her down" is a pretty clear implication of rape. How about "punching her in the face" and "seeing "the horror on her face"? And those three quotes didn't come only from the bum, either.

The face value is pretty obvious.

WHY DO YOU CARE?

It is a PAY service. You don't like this type of humor, so you don't pay for it. That's fine. But please stop whining about it like the rest of the PC Police in this country.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: BD2003
1) They didnt say it. A bum did. All they did was egg him on and laugh about it. And what they were laughing about was how outrageous the bum was, not the actual act of boning the first lady.

2) The bum who DID say it never mentioned or implied rape. All he said was that they needed some dick and he'd give it to them. Really no different than the "I'd hit it" you commonly hear on this board, just a bit less tactful. The media is spinning it as rape to oversimplify it and amplify the "outrage".

Stop believing what you hear at face value.

It's a pretty stupid, often offensive to all people, yet damn funny show, no less or more offensive than chapelle, chris rock etc (which are pretty damn offensive)

"Holding her down" is a pretty clear implication of rape. How about "punching her in the face" and "seeing "the horror on her face"? And those three quotes didn't come only from the bum, either.

The face value is pretty obvious.

The tone of voice and context those comments were made in are actually pretty important things that you're just not going to get from reading them in the paper.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: Kev
WHY DO YOU CARE?

It is a PAY service. You don't like this type of humor, so you don't pay for it. That's fine. But please stop whining about it like the rest of the PC Police in this country.

I care because rape is not funny. I care because approximately 1 in 5 women will be the victim of an attempted or a successful rape. Pick five women you know, and which one you think it will happen to.

I care because people like you are less interested in that than about what your entertainment for today might be. And because people like you will provide financial support to jerks who make comments like those I quoted above.
 

Modular

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I miss the 50 gallon drum challenge ;)

They should have never been suspended from regular radio in the first place, let alone XM..
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Kev
WHY DO YOU CARE?

It is a PAY service. You don't like this type of humor, so you don't pay for it. That's fine. But please stop whining about it like the rest of the PC Police in this country.

I care because rape is not funny. I care because approximately 1 in 5 women will be the victim of an attempted or a successful rape. Pick five women you know, and which one you think it will happen to.

I care because people like you are less interested in that than about what your entertainment for today might be. And because people like you will provide financial support to jerks who make comments like those I quoted above.

You obviously have a hard time separating words from actions. Oh well, your problem not ours.
So are you offended when people are killed in movies or raped in movies? Should all of those movies be banned? After all someone watching them might know somebody that it happened to! :roll:
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Kev
WHY DO YOU CARE?

It is a PAY service. You don't like this type of humor, so you don't pay for it. That's fine. But please stop whining about it like the rest of the PC Police in this country.

I care because rape is not funny. I care because approximately 1 in 5 women will be the victim of an attempted or a successful rape. Pick five women you know, and which one you think it will happen to.

I care because people like you are less interested in that than about what your entertainment for today might be. And because people like you will provide financial support to jerks who make comments like those I quoted above.

Hey, I'm offended by a lot of things that I hear on the Radio, TV movies, etc. If you dont think it's funny, don't laugh, don't tune in, and dont financially support them.

But other than that, mind your own damn business. Your holier-than-thou attitude is what really offends ME.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: Kev
You obviously have a hard time separating words from actions. Oh well, your problem not ours.
So are you offended when people are killed in movies or raped in movies? Should all of those movies be banned? After all someone watching them might know somebody that it happened to! :roll:

And what do you say to all the grieving families at VTech, who want to know why Cho wasn't stopped earlier? He was pretty clear about what he wanted to do, but it was all just words...until he actually did it.

Whose problem is it now?
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Kev
You obviously have a hard time separating words from actions. Oh well, your problem not ours.
So are you offended when people are killed in movies or raped in movies? Should all of those movies be banned? After all someone watching them might know somebody that it happened to! :roll:

And what do you say to all the grieving families at VTech, who want to know why Cho wasn't stopped earlier? He was pretty clear about what he wanted to do, but it was all just words...until he actually did it.

Whose problem is it now?

You're a f*cking idiot, I'm done arguing with you now.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Kev
You obviously have a hard time separating words from actions. Oh well, your problem not ours.
So are you offended when people are killed in movies or raped in movies? Should all of those movies be banned? After all someone watching them might know somebody that it happened to! :roll:

And what do you say to all the grieving families at VTech, who want to know why Cho wasn't stopped earlier? He was pretty clear about what he wanted to do, but it was all just words...until he actually did it.

Whose problem is it now?

So what do you propose then? And WTF does V-Tech have to do with this anyway?
 

Kev

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Looks like this thread has its very own hole.

(O&A fans will know what I'm talking about)
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Kev
You obviously have a hard time separating words from actions. Oh well, your problem not ours.
So are you offended when people are killed in movies or raped in movies? Should all of those movies be banned? After all someone watching them might know somebody that it happened to! :roll:

And what do you say to all the grieving families at VTech, who want to know why Cho wasn't stopped earlier? He was pretty clear about what he wanted to do, but it was all just words...until he actually did it.

Whose problem is it now?

So what do you propose then? And WTF does V-Tech have to do with this anyway?

It isn't just words. It's violence. And if we don't stop it before it becomes action, then someone gets hurt or killed. Why is that so hard to understand?
 
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Originally posted by: sixone

It isn't just words. It's violence. And if we don't stop it before it becomes action, then someone gets hurt or killed. Why is that so hard to understand?

This is just ridiculous. I don't see ANY parallel between this situation and the tragedy at VT, nor do I believe that even the most fanciful mind could craft a persuasive argument that the comments of a homeless person about having sex with Condoleezza Rice will have any effect whatsoever on the incidence of rape, or lead to a single such crime. You seem to literally be endorsing the idea of Thought Police.

I don't like O&A at all, but the feigned outrage over these remarks offends me more than the remarks themselves.
 
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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Kev
You obviously have a hard time separating words from actions. Oh well, your problem not ours.
So are you offended when people are killed in movies or raped in movies? Should all of those movies be banned? After all someone watching them might know somebody that it happened to! :roll:

And what do you say to all the grieving families at VTech, who want to know why Cho wasn't stopped earlier? He was pretty clear about what he wanted to do, but it was all just words...until he actually did it.

Whose problem is it now?

So what do you propose then? And WTF does V-Tech have to do with this anyway?

It isn't just words. It's violence. And if we don't stop it before it becomes action, then someone gets hurt or killed. Why is that so hard to understand?

Stopping talk about violence is not going to stop violence. People who do those type of things are going to do them anyway. They are just severely messed up individuals. I still don't understand what this has to do with V-tech by the way.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Kev
You obviously have a hard time separating words from actions. Oh well, your problem not ours.
So are you offended when people are killed in movies or raped in movies? Should all of those movies be banned? After all someone watching them might know somebody that it happened to! :roll:

And what do you say to all the grieving families at VTech, who want to know why Cho wasn't stopped earlier? He was pretty clear about what he wanted to do, but it was all just words...until he actually did it.

Whose problem is it now?

So what do you propose then? And WTF does V-Tech have to do with this anyway?

It isn't just words. It's violence. And if we don't stop it before it becomes action, then someone gets hurt or killed. Why is that so hard to understand?

Because we're not all gifted with the blessing of clairvoyance and foresight that you have, perhaps it would be easier to just ban all video games, music, movies, books, speech (including forum posts) that have any violent element to them. We'd also have to lock everyone in a cage who has ever had a violent thought, and prevent any direct human to human contact just in case. That will be sure to end violence, I'm sure.

Or alternatively, we could create laws against actual acts of violence. That way we'd be able to live our lives relatively freely, with the acceptance that a free society must endure an element of violence and speech that will offend someone, somewhere, in order to exist at all.
 

KK

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Originally posted by: DonVito


I don' like O&A at all, but the feigned outrage over these remarks offends me more than the remarks themselves.


What do you expect from a bunch of nancy boys(sixone).
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: Kev
You obviously have a hard time separating words from actions. Oh well, your problem not ours.
So are you offended when people are killed in movies or raped in movies? Should all of those movies be banned? After all someone watching them might know somebody that it happened to! :roll:

And what do you say to all the grieving families at VTech, who want to know why Cho wasn't stopped earlier? He was pretty clear about what he wanted to do, but it was all just words...until he actually did it.

Whose problem is it now?

So what do you propose then? And WTF does V-Tech have to do with this anyway?

It isn't just words. It's violence. And if we don't stop it before it becomes action, then someone gets hurt or killed. Why is that so hard to understand?

Because we're not all gifted with the blessing of clairvoyance and foresight that you have, perhaps it would be easier to just ban all video games, music, movies, books, speech (including forum posts) that have any violent element to them. We'd also have to lock everyone in a cage and prevent any direct human to human contact. That will be sure to end violence, I'm sure.

Or alternatively, we could create laws against actual acts of violence. That way we'd be able to live our lives relatively freely, with the acceptance that a free society must endure an element of violence and speech that will offend someone, somewhere, in order to exist at all.

Stop making sense.
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: BD2003
Because we're not all gifted with the blessing of clairvoyance and foresight that you have, perhaps it would be easier to just ban all video games, music, movies, books, speech (including forum posts) that have any violent element to them. We'd also have to lock everyone in a cage who has ever had a violent thought, and prevent any direct human to human contact just in case. That will be sure to end violence, I'm sure.

Or alternatively, we could create laws against actual acts of violence. That way we'd be able to live our lives relatively freely, with the acceptance that a free society must endure an element of violence and speech that will offend someone, somewhere, in order to exist at all.

Or how about we shun those "entertainers" who want to turn violence into humor? It's not funny when it happens to someone you know - why is it funny when it's someone you don't, or don't like?
 

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f'n XM. i called and canceled two days ago. heard reports of people being credited instead of actually having their account shut off (after explicitly denying the credit, and insisting the account be terminated). just called. had been credited a month and not canceled. bastards.
 

toekramp

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: BD2003
Because we're not all gifted with the blessing of clairvoyance and foresight that you have, perhaps it would be easier to just ban all video games, music, movies, books, speech (including forum posts) that have any violent element to them. We'd also have to lock everyone in a cage who has ever had a violent thought, and prevent any direct human to human contact just in case. That will be sure to end violence, I'm sure.

Or alternatively, we could create laws against actual acts of violence. That way we'd be able to live our lives relatively freely, with the acceptance that a free society must endure an element of violence and speech that will offend someone, somewhere, in order to exist at all.

Or how about we shun those "entertainers" who want to turn violence into humor? It's not funny when it happens to someone you know - why is it funny when it's someone you don't, or don't like?

because you can distance yourself from it? how is this even a question.
 

BD2003

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Originally posted by: sixone
Originally posted by: BD2003
Because we're not all gifted with the blessing of clairvoyance and foresight that you have, perhaps it would be easier to just ban all video games, music, movies, books, speech (including forum posts) that have any violent element to them. We'd also have to lock everyone in a cage who has ever had a violent thought, and prevent any direct human to human contact just in case. That will be sure to end violence, I'm sure.

Or alternatively, we could create laws against actual acts of violence. That way we'd be able to live our lives relatively freely, with the acceptance that a free society must endure an element of violence and speech that will offend someone, somewhere, in order to exist at all.

Or how about we shun those "entertainers" who want to turn violence into humor? It's not funny when it happens to someone you know - why is it funny when it's someone you don't, or don't like?

Then go ahead and shun them. Dont pay for it and dont tune in. No one has a problem with you having your own personal feelings about it, or voicing that opinion.

But you cross a line when you claim there is some sort of *objective* decency line. And to want to tape the mouths or otherwise get rid of entertainment that people *choose* to pay for. This isnt a slipperly slope, its an avalanche, and that kind of thinking will come back to bite you in the ass. For example:

You know, mario bros really offends me. I'm sorry, but us italians do not dream about pasta, we are not all plumbers, and we do not have such a horrible accent. We are not cavemen that ride dinosaurs, and we do not just go around and jump on the heads of small critters, punch turtles in the face then kick their shells around for fun. We are not abusers of magic mushrooms either. Nintendo should be boycotted - they are glorifying violence and perpetuating stereotypes.

Is that the kind of world you want? Because it's only a matter of time before that happens if we allow your logic to perpetuate.
 

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Originally posted by: mugs
Canceling XM because they suspended O&A is as stupid as canceling XM if they didn't do anything about O&A's comments.

Sorry to dig this ol' comment up, but...

Wow. I'm not one to protest or anything like that (in fact the majority of protests piss me off), but most O&A fans are loyal enough to 'take a stand' against XM. We've gotten (at last check) two sponsors to pull support since the suspension, and an unofficially very large number of people to cancel - I think XM will notice this.