Read the headlines on the AT homepage... Definitely looks like Intel is starting to "panic" and lose ground against AMD with the (early) Prescott release and the AMD earnings up... I love the competition...
Operation: Loss of Market Share...
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Wow...Were the heck did you read that...You AMD boys sure make me laugh!!! Hey genius, when was the last cpu INtel actually released and p4 3.2EE does not count has an officially chip launch...It has been a long time...prescott is not being rushed to market it is actually a bit behind schedule.....
Intel has had phenomenal financial reportings for quite a few quarters and much more then AMD...A quick way to kill sales is to have a stagnant product line.. Intel has ambitious plans in the near future with newer chips and chipsets and the longer the prescott is on the sidelines means they cannot maximize their profit on this in the marketplace....
You 16-21 year olds need to start understanding economics and business environment and quit ASSumming......
Nobody is panicing!!! The 3.2c has been out for an extremely long period of time in which AMD has come out with the opteron line and about 3-4 variations of that and athlon64 line with 3 variations and the FX line with 1....If anything genius it would look quite the opposite that INtel is not panicing cause they felt the need to either wait and see what AMD had or to get their ducks in a row before they put the product out....
As for drop of prices that aturally happens to make room for the higher priced chips at the top.....The fact this chip and price reduction may have been a few earlier then we were lead to believe 2-3 months ago is irrelevant. Intel scurry now to get it out 2 weeks or so earlier then originally plan is stupid...If they were truly panicing this would have happened prior to Xmas....
hey maybe I can find some 1-2 sentence financial reports on AMD and read way to much f-ing things into it.....Anyways LOL!!!!
Early release of prescott?
Intel in a panic over AMD? Lets look at these companies, who has had losses on top of more losses? AMD, its quite similar to the time when the came out with the original Athlon. Intel isnt in fear, AMD hasnt gained all that much in any one market(severs, workstation, mobile, etc). When it comes down to it AMD isnt fighting Intel, its just fighting to survive. I still hold out hope IBM eventually buys AMD.
Interestingly enough, the title of this thread will probably describe AMD over the next few quarters as AMD transisitions to the much larger Hammer/Newcastle cores, while Intel transitions to the smaller Prescott from Northwood.
Spicedaddy
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Intel Reports Record Earnings for 4th Quarter
edit- bah, stupid nytimes... Page loads when you click on the google link
edit- bah, stupid nytimes... Page loads when you click on the google link
Doesn't nessicarially means that market share is up or down, If you grow 10% and your competetor grows 12% still means that both are doing good, but one can be losing ground.
Not that I can much anyways.
The main thing that I care about is this formula:
Nvidia performance / $ > Intel performance / $
And for the past few years this is true.
I'm not a fan of either AMD or Intel... I just think the recent headlines are interesting that's all... ATI snuck up on Nvidia... Who would have ever thought the "giant" might take a serious blow... If the public becomes more educated on CPUs, the tide could turn in the near term...
I'm gonna side with Caveman. Remember the old IBM days anyone??
Usually the only times the flamers react so strongly is when the whites of their eyes are showing.
I use AMD, Intel, ATI and Nvidia. Right now AMD and ATI have the price/performance ratio all over Intel and Nvidia. And today's kids are getting better educated about computing every day. Intel and Nvidia better pay attention to market direction. You can only blackmail the component companies for so long before the profits get eaten up.
Usually the only times the flamers react so strongly is when the whites of their eyes are showing.
I use AMD, Intel, ATI and Nvidia. Right now AMD and ATI have the price/performance ratio all over Intel and Nvidia. And today's kids are getting better educated about computing every day. Intel and Nvidia better pay attention to market direction. You can only blackmail the component companies for so long before the profits get eaten up.
Your whole argument is that Intel is in a panic, so they released the Prescott early. This is ridiculous, like Duvie said the Prescott is BEHIND schedule, how could they be releasing it early then? All they're doing is delaying it less, which is exactly what ANY business in ANY market would do if their product was already behind schedule.
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i'm not really sure ati "snuck up" on the giant nvidia. they've been around for a bit too long to sneak up on anyone. they finally figured out how to make a great 3d card and brought it to market.
i thought this was amd vs intel?
i thought this was amd vs intel?
This isn't about AMD vs Intel... it's about the evolution of our hobby/proffessions and an industry... According to the news, AMD has made some good advances in the past 6 months and it appears like Intel (for whatever reason) is lagging a bit in their development...
With some good PR and some time, we might see some good things come out of the next year for AMD... and if that happens, we all win!
Also... nobody knows the future of "buyouts/mergers, etc..." This could spin things too...
With some good PR and some time, we might see some good things come out of the next year for AMD... and if that happens, we all win!
Also... nobody knows the future of "buyouts/mergers, etc..." This could spin things too...
Intel vs. AMD is much less interesting these days. Mainstream PC market ain't dead - but its rate of growth has been slowing in all major economies as markets reach saturation. Both companies are experimenting in diversifying their revenue base away from core PC CPU to other processing, display, storage, and communications for embedded platforms.
This enables them to line up to support the next wave of PC and Appliance manufacturers charging into the consumer market with integrated appliances for home networking, cellphones, PDAs, Set-top Boxes, TVs, A/V receivers etc.
Cast your eyes over products announced at this year's CES compared to last year - the shift in marketing money for integrated products in noticable. All the manufacturing giants have placed stakes in the ground.
Add in the feeble reaction from incumbent consumer companies - perhaps that is the new motherlode? Move over Sony...
This enables them to line up to support the next wave of PC and Appliance manufacturers charging into the consumer market with integrated appliances for home networking, cellphones, PDAs, Set-top Boxes, TVs, A/V receivers etc.
Cast your eyes over products announced at this year's CES compared to last year - the shift in marketing money for integrated products in noticable. All the manufacturing giants have placed stakes in the ground.
Add in the feeble reaction from incumbent consumer companies - perhaps that is the new motherlode? Move over Sony...
From AT Frontpage... Interesting...
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AMD's unique 64-bit Opteron chip, its first-ever chip for servers, is becoming so successful so fast that it is forcing the industry's biggest players to change strategies. It's also allowing AMD to keep its average selling prices high despite the usual pressure from Intel. IBM and Sun are shipping servers with Opteron. Customer interest is growing quickly. And late last week bombshells emerged from both Hewlett-Packard and Intel, the two companies who partnered a decade ago to take another path toward 64-bit computing called Itanium. HP quietly confirmed that it is likely to soon start selling Opteron-based servers. Separately, Intel President Paul Otellini effectively announced that the chip giant will soon introduce chips mimicking AMD's approach. In both cases these are moves the two companies had long resisted and/or vowed not to make. It is by no means the kiss of death for Itanium, but rather a fabulous, though reluctant, endorsement of AMD's strategy on the part of both companies. Both clearly hate to take this path, but they hear what customers are saying and have no choice.
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AMD's unique 64-bit Opteron chip, its first-ever chip for servers, is becoming so successful so fast that it is forcing the industry's biggest players to change strategies. It's also allowing AMD to keep its average selling prices high despite the usual pressure from Intel. IBM and Sun are shipping servers with Opteron. Customer interest is growing quickly. And late last week bombshells emerged from both Hewlett-Packard and Intel, the two companies who partnered a decade ago to take another path toward 64-bit computing called Itanium. HP quietly confirmed that it is likely to soon start selling Opteron-based servers. Separately, Intel President Paul Otellini effectively announced that the chip giant will soon introduce chips mimicking AMD's approach. In both cases these are moves the two companies had long resisted and/or vowed not to make. It is by no means the kiss of death for Itanium, but rather a fabulous, though reluctant, endorsement of AMD's strategy on the part of both companies. Both clearly hate to take this path, but they hear what customers are saying and have no choice.
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Check the AT headlines again (Feb 17) for response to "Operation: Loss of Market Share"...
Competition is good for us all... : )
Competition is good for us all... : )
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