Operation Choke Point

[John Connor]

More like operation choke on my DICK! The Obozo administration is a fucking joke!!!

It is, as the company’s slogan says, a “small credit card reader” that offers “big possibilities.” But some of those big possibilities are apparently being foreclosed by the Obama administration. Last summer, around the same time the U.S. Department of Justice’s Operation Choke Point began pressuring banks to drop customers who buy or sell firearms, tobacco and other goods considered “not acceptable” by the Obama administration, Square quietly changed its terms of agreement.

http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/25/gun-shop-owners-longer-hip-square/

 

[brycejones]

Posting in a John Connor thread

 

[Jaskalas]

U.S. Department of Justice’s Operation Choke Point began pressuring banks to drop customers who buy or sell firearms

I guess private vendors don't get to hide behind executive privilege like Holder. Could it be said that the DoJ is taking out the competition? #fastandfurious

Oh, when did Congress remove the 2nd amendment? Seems the Admin is violating legal activities and persecuting them on their own volition without approval from the people or their representatives. That sort of action is dictatorial, tyrannical, in nature. Much like the IRS, he doesn't have a legal mandate, he's just taking out political opponents.

The President may be immune from legal action, but Congress should prosecute the men and women serving under him.

 

[rudder]

If I had the $$$ I would start a credit union and cater to these companies. Great opportunity out there.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Oh johnny, you're faux rage threads are a fun read.

Must be a royal pain in the ass to walk around like this all day

 

[dmcowen674]

Posting in a John Connor thread

Do you agree with what is being done?

 

[glenn1]

Do you agree with what is being done?

Of course. Weilding the government as a weapon against legal activities you don't like is a legitimate use of power, amirite? Next administration we'll start cracking down on processing transactions for abortion providers and other undesireables in order to put them out of business.

 

[boomerang]

Maybe Holder's replacement won't have the stomach for this operation. But then again, Obama has a knack for finding radicals. I'm fully confident he can find somebody far worse.

 

[brycejones]

Do you agree with what is being done?

It would be interesting to see sourcing other than the nutter fringe media.

 

[highland145]

Oh johnny, you're faux rage threads are a fun read.

Must be a royal pain in the ass to walk around like this all day

Except there isn't anything faux about this. I firmly believe TD bank closed my business account because of the DOJ BS.

But it's not affecting you so it's not a problem, right?

 

[highland145]

It would be interesting to see sourcing other than the nutter fringe media.

What other reason would square do this? Possibly a left wing company that doesn't like guns but they haven't said.

 

[brycejones]

What other reason would square do this? Possibly a left wing company but they haven't said.

So they haven't said...and you don't know why really besides the OP's post referencing nutter central.

 

[Jhhnn]

Meh. Putting it on de gubmint is total hearsay. As a service, Square can limit use any way they want.

It's silly that they would, but it's not my operation.

 

[highland145]

So they haven't said...and you don't know why really besides the OP's post referencing nutter central.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/05/24/operation-choke-point/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/25/keene-the-devious-designs-of-operation-choke-point/

etc.

Been reading about it for over a month after I got my TD letter.

The government decided to inform banks and processors that some business sectors were higher risk than others. Businesses operating within these sectors might be more prone to defrauding their customers or breaking other laws, and a bank providing such “high-risk” businesses services could be viewed by bank regulators and federal law enforcement officials as accomplices in whatever laws the high-risk enterprise might break. A financial institution providing services to such a business might have to be more carefully and extensively audited than other banks to make sure it is diligently checking on its high-risk customers to make sure nothing is amiss.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

yea, that um... 'source' seems to be a bit questionable

 

[brycejones]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2014/05/24/operation-choke-point/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/aug/25/keene-the-devious-designs-of-operation-choke-point/

etc.

Been reading about it for over a month after I got my TD letter.

But by your own admission Square has made no mention of why they made this move. Could be related or not.

 

[highland145]

But by your own admission Square has made no mention of why they made this move. Could be related or not.

Could be but it's not just square. It's an attack on certain industries. Read the articles I posted.

It's interesting that if gun stores have to go to a cash only policy, they might be more likely to not pay their taxes. But it's not about the taxes for the DOJ.

 

[Genx87]

Replace buying and selling guns with voter registration activities and watch the lefts head explode.

 

[Meghan54]

Let's see.....the DoJ published its list a year ago and it took Square a year to take this action.

And why aren't you free enterprise advocates standing behind this. Square is simply exercising its right to do business how it sees fit. Haven't noticed anyone prior to this decrying Square's refusal to allow transactions involving adult entertainment oriented products or services, including escort services, as well as drug paraphernalia, or any other “hate or harmful products,” as well as online sales of cigarettes and tobacco related items.

And Square isn't the only one prohibiting firearms related sales. Ebay has long prohibited sales of firearms and related items on its site, where's the vocal outrage about that?

And gun buyers/sellers aren't really harmed in all this, btw. There exist alternatives to Square and its functionality for gun sales. The NRA Business Alliance provides credit card payment processing, including transactions made over the Internet, and so does PistolPay, which launched just last summer as a PayPal for guns. PhoneSwipe is another payment processor that accepts transactions involving firearms and ammunition.

So, sucks to be using Square but alternatives are out there.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm just wondering if the OP is as good at real masturbation as he is at the mental kind if maybe I should be jealous.

 

[glenn1]

Let's see.....the DoJ published its list a year ago and it took Square a year to take this action.

And why aren't you free enterprise advocates standing behind this. Square is simply exercising its right to do business how it sees fit. Haven't noticed anyone prior to this decrying Square's refusal to allow transactions involving adult entertainment oriented products or services, including escort services, as well as drug paraphernalia, or any other “hate or harmful products,” as well as online sales of cigarettes and tobacco related items.

I don't think anyone would care if it were simply the company independently and of its own free will choosing what type of clientele it would prefer not to serve. If however (and I realize this is a huge "if") the government was putting pressure on them to make this decision many would oppose it. And that would be the case no matter what type of company that was pressured, regardless of what I thought of their business.

 

[John Connor]

I'm just wondering if the OP is as good at real masturbation as he is at the mental kind if maybe I should be jealous.

You are at the "mental kind" of a 12 year old.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

You are at the "mental kind" of a 12 year old.

You got him there johnny

 

[boomerang]

Let's see.....the DoJ published its list a year ago and it took Square a year to take this action.

And why aren't you free enterprise advocates standing behind this. Square is simply exercising its right to do business how it sees fit. Haven't noticed anyone prior to this decrying Square's refusal to allow transactions involving adult entertainment oriented products or services, including escort services, as well as drug paraphernalia, or any other “hate or harmful products,” as well as online sales of cigarettes and tobacco related items.

And Square isn't the only one prohibiting firearms related sales. Ebay has long prohibited sales of firearms and related items on its site, where's the vocal outrage about that?

And gun buyers/sellers aren't really harmed in all this, btw. There exist alternatives to Square and its functionality for gun sales. The NRA Business Alliance provides credit card payment processing, including transactions made over the Internet, and so does PistolPay, which launched just last summer as a PayPal for guns. PhoneSwipe is another payment processor that accepts transactions involving firearms and ammunition.

So, sucks to be using Square but alternatives are out there.

Are we to assume that you are good with the government pressing lending institutions to cease doing business with firearms dealers? We have a poster right here in this thread that had his lending business affected when the government pressured his bank. You've singled out Square but this issue if far, far bigger than that. Is there a point where it becomes government overreach for you? Or, are you of the mind that it's not affecting what you're doing so it's all good? Perhaps as long as it's the government as far as you're concerned it's got to be OK? The end justifies the means?

 

[John Connor]

You got him there johnny