Operation Broken Heart

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More Than 2,300 Suspected Online Child Sex Offenders Arrested During Operation “Broken Heart”

"The Department of Justice today announced the arrest of more than 2,300 suspected online child sex offenders during a three-month, nationwide, operation conducted by Internet Crimes Against Children (ICAC) task forces. The task forces identified 195 offenders who either produced child pornography or committed child sexual abuse, and 383 children who suffered recent, ongoing, or historical sexual abuse or production of child pornography."


I know some people view any win as a loss for their team, but I think this is a win for the vast majority of us. It is still ongoing and I'm positive their will be many more arrests.
 
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I would say I don't know anyone who would be on the side of child porn but then I recall..... we've lost a few members over the years.....
 
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zinfamous

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Good.


Though, I suspect this will be the single rightwing media and Trumptardian talking point du mois while the ground is literally falling out from under Cohen and the reality of Trump's big-fat nothingburger wrg to North Korea really starts to settle.
 
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Guurn

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It's amazing how little play this has received on the televised media. There seems to be a bunch of short stories covering it online including places like Newsweek.
 

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It's amazing how little play this has received on the televised media. There seems to be a bunch of short stories covering it online including places like Newsweek.
Trump sucks all of the oxygen out of the new cycle on a regular basis, and it's no accident. Idiot MSM keeps playing along. Liberal media my ass.
 
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Amused

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It's amazing how little play this has received on the televised media. There seems to be a bunch of short stories covering it online including places like Newsweek.

Because child predators on the internet is nothing new. It's not big news. It was at first, a decade ago when Chris Hanson would bust them, but now it's like going to the moon was for Apollo 13 and up: Expected and unremarkable. A simple "good job" is cool, but people expect it and also expect regular, ongoing enforcement.

That's like headlining all the DUI arrests. Thanks for keeping us safe, but you're expected to do this.

Google child predator stings/arrests and you'll see this is going on all the time.
 

sdifox

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Make sure to convict them and have special prison garb that say "I molested kids". That should make the prison population welcome them.
 

cytg111

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First time offenders : Off with a nut.
Second time offenders : Off with the other one
Third time : Dick off.
 
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While that sounds good, we'll see if its part of their overly broad definition of stuff like child sex trafficking (meaning they're using that one law they claimed was about that, which was absolutely overly broad in its scope, enabling them to do much more than that, and they can point to that law as their impetus and it'll make it seem like people were arrested over that and not say refusing to overturn user data for a site they used).

Plus, uh, were they arresting the victims too? Seems weird that they throw those two numbers in there. Also, there's just a bit of a disparity between 195 and 2,300. And while they mention a number for child victims, its not unheard of for them to arrest child trafficking victims (lots of them got arrested under prostitution laws). They've also been known to use such laws to go after people (I think they used to do that sort of thing as a way to harass gay clubs/people; like groups that take in runaway LGBTQ kids fleeing their abusive homes).

Actually, aren't they saying that they arrested 2,300 but only actually identified 195 (whatever the hell that means) out of those they arrested? So they arrested more than 10 times the amount of people they actually found to have been doing it, or they fucked up and got actual charges brought in less than 10% of their arrests?

Plus, uh, since they say:
To date, ICAC Task Forces have reviewed more than 775,000 complaints of child exploitation, which resulted in the arrest of more than 83,000 individuals

Which means, in the 20 years they've been doing this, they average about 4,150 in a year. So they about doubled their arrests per quarter. The question is, how many of those should have been arrested, is their "identifying" rate actually any better, or are they just casting larger nets and arresting more people?

Lastly, I'm not convinced that the internet has enabled this stuff to increase as much as its shown that its a much bigger problem than we realized. There's plenty of other issues - like people fleeing dictatorships, and especially as places start closing to immigrants including asylum for refugees, that its enabling a lot of people to be exploited in this manner as they become desperate to get their kids out of the situations (not realizing they just paid someone to sell them into trafficking). I've seen arguments that social media/internet/tech actually made it easier to go after them. Which is why many opponents of that law I was referencing earlier, have said this will likely actually cause a lot of that stuff to go underground, making it harder to investigate and do something about.
 

cytg111

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Doesn't matter there's no cure for child molesters.

I know but I am thinking that miscarriage of justice is a thing... and for the wrongfully accused and sentenced.. well you still got one good nut left ;), the rest of them will iterate towards total lack of definition one way or the other.

And if they have a vagina?
Electroshock therapy? Removal of lady parts? According to wiki its a 10-1 male problem, and riddle me if that number doesnt rise exponentially as the victems get younger and younger. In so many ways, testosterone sucks... Its like the difference between a recreational drug user and an addict.
 
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I know but I am thinking that miscarriage of justice is a thing... and for the wrongfully accused and sentenced.. well you still got one good nut left ;), the rest of them will iterate towards total lack of definition one way or the other.


Electroshock therapy? Removal of lady parts? According to wiki its a 10-1 male problem, and riddle me if that number doesnt rise exponentially as the victems get younger and younger. In so many ways, testosterone sucks... Its like the difference between a recreational drug user and an addict.

I'm with you, and eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth ;)

I bet though (not to defend them) they are the result of having the same sick stuff done to them.
 

cytg111

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I'm with you, and eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth ;)

I bet though (not to defend them) they are the result of having the same sick stuff done to them.
Yea I know, I am also halfway jesting here.. but punishment do need to be harsher, maybe not in the prison for life kind of sense, but mandatory chemical castration or something like that for repeat offenders.
 

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First of all, we have to be a bit more vigilant on who we call sex offender or child molester. When a 25 year old guy hooks up with an 18 year old girl on Facebook, but the girl looks mature and lied and is only 15, we need to stop prosecuting that crime as harshly as true child molestation and forcing that guy to register as a sex offender for life. We need common sense rather than zero-tolerance laws.

Then we can prosecute the real scum who hurt children. And one strike is enough. If we should have zero-tolerance for anything it should be allowing child abusers to leave prison and repeat their crime. I'm fairly sickened by reports of kids abused, raped and murdered by repeat offenders. It must not be allowed.

I was a juror on a child molestation case and we had two on the jury who were very hesitant to convict because they wanted to be sure beyond all shadow of a doubt since the crime was so serious. I had to plead with them to remember the legal standard and instructions from the judge *which they had all sworn to follow* were beyond a REASONABLE doubt, not all possible doubt. I eventually voted to convict and after the trial was over learned it was the his second offense molesting a kid. Why the fuck was that fuck even out!?!