Opening locks was never this easy!

J0hnny

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yup, marked for video download, although I'm thinking most of the bandwidth will be used up by tonight...
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: J0hnny
yup, marked for video download, although I'm thinking most of the bandwidth will be used up by tonight...

They won't like their ISP bill this month ;)
 

AaronB

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I'll have to look into this at work. The cynical part of me thinks the more secure locks were rigged for the demonstration. Personally, I hope it works because it would be fun. :)
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Originally posted by: AaronB
I'll have to look into this at work. The cynical part of me thinks the more secure locks were rigged for the demonstration. Personally, I hope it works because it would be fun. :)

Actually, he explains why the expensive ones are easier: Normal lockpicking is based on flaws in the production of the lock, where the pins do not fit the holes perfectly, and each hole/pin set is slightly different. The expensive ones are far more flawless, therefor far smoother in operation, and therefor do not have as much friction to prevent the pins from getting knocked away.
 

AaronB

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Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: AaronB
I'll have to look into this at work. The cynical part of me thinks the more secure locks were rigged for the demonstration. Personally, I hope it works because it would be fun. :)

Actually, he explains why the expensive ones are easier: Normal lockpicking is based on flaws in the production of the lock, where the pins do not fit the holes perfectly, and each hole/pin set is slightly different. The expensive ones are far more flawless, therefor far smoother in operation, and therefor do not have as much friction to prevent the pins from getting knocked away.


I understood his idea but I still didn't believe it.

Anyhow, I went and made bump keys for Schlage (SC1), Kwikset (KW1), and KABA Peaks. Schlage and Kwikset are your typical residential locks with Schlage also being found on a lot of commercial buildings. The result is that I could open any of the dozen or so total Schlage and Kwikset locks I tried within 2-20 seconds.

Kaba Peaks is considered a medium security lock which basically has 7 pins with a few features that make it extremely difficult to open using conventional picking methods. As a matter of fact I would never have tried picking this lock open before seeing those videos. Using the bump key I can open either of the two different KABA Peaks locks I tried this method on within 5 seconds.

After this, I would agree that the better the lock the easier it is to open.

 

Baked

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FYI, I'm poor and I have no valuables and/or money in my house. But my neighbor's rich.
 

Falloutboy

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now I want to try this on my home lock. how would I cut a bump key? would I just get a blank key from the hardware store and try it with a dremel?
 

AaronB

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Originally posted by: Falloutboy
now I want to try this on my home lock. how would I cut a bump key? would I just get a blank key from the hardware store and try it with a dremel?


In theory you could do it by hand with a file or a Dremel. Personally I don't see it happening without a prohibitive amount of time invested.

Personally I used one of these which makes the key in a few seconds.
 

Falloutboy

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Originally posted by: AaronB
Originally posted by: Falloutboy
now I want to try this on my home lock. how would I cut a bump key? would I just get a blank key from the hardware store and try it with a dremel?


In theory you could do it by hand with a file or a Dremel. Personally I don't see it happening without a prohibitive amount of time invested.

Personally I used one of these which makes the key in a few seconds.

yes, to bad I don't work at a hardware store anymore.... but even so what do you use as a template so you get it all done correct?

**EDIT** I see its a computer controlled unit**EDIT

wounder if the guy at my local hardware store will let me cut my own key :)
 

staeiou

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Originally posted by: AaronB
The videos are still available on the site linked in the first post.

Yeah, but I was getting 2-3 times the speed from the torrent than I was with the site. Doesn't take away the awesomeness of torrents in general either. :)