Open Carry Encounter With Police One good cop, one bad cop

[Reasonable Doubt]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1f4_1373487378

 

[Jodell88]

That has to be the worst vertical video I've ever seen.

 

[KaOTiK]

I didn't think it was possible to make a vertical video recording worse, then I watched this.

 

[FelixDeCat]

 

[Hoober]

If anyone was looking for a confrontation it was the guy wearing a long rifle in plain view as he went to red box. And now he will pretend to have the 'force' not to questioned by anyone, especially the police, for doing so.

Right or wrong, he is going to jail.

Sorry.

Well... actually he's not going to jail. It's within his rights to carry openly in Michigan apparently.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

What kind of person uploads a sideways video? And what kind of person then decides that such a video is worth posting to an internet forum? "This video must be seen!" No, it mustn't.

 

[FelixDeCat]

 

[FelixDeCat]

:whiste:

 

[zerocool84]

I hate people that purposefully push laws like this to its absolute limits. I would not feel bad if it turned bad for him.

 

[Hoober]

But its not within your right to continually say while pushing a camera in someones face that you are not making any threatening motions.

In Texas, his ass would be on the ground for failure to identify.

Now that I agree with. He was a dick.

 

[Triumph]

as a gun owner and ardent gun rights supporter, i'm also annoyed by people who open carry in a flagrant manner. open carrying a holstered sidearm? ok. open carrying a rifle while hunting or on your way to hunting grounds or shooting range, ok. going to redbox with a rifle slung across your back? give me a break.

 

[yh125d]

But its not within your right to continually say while pushing a camera in someones face that you are not making any threatening motions.

In Texas, his ass would be on the ground for failure to identify.

I don't really care about the other circumstances regarding the encounter, but there was no pushing of a camera in anyones face. The guy had the camera up before the cop approached, the cop on his own moved his face into the proximity of the camera, not the other way around. When the cop asked to get the camera out of his face, the guy took a step back, then the cop took a step back towards the guy. Say what you will about the rest, but pushing a camera in his face clearly did not happen.

 

[TrueBlueLS]

I live not too far from Royal Oak. I would wise and beautiful woman punt this guy for being stupid.

 

[Doppel]

Only watching this because of how bad people said the vertical video was and yeah it really is awful.

 

[Doppel]

as a gun owner and ardent gun rights supporter, i'm also annoyed by people who open carry in a flagrant manner. open carrying a holstered sidearm? ok. open carrying a rifle while hunting or on your way to hunting grounds or shooting range, ok. going to redbox with a rifle slung across your back? give me a break.

I think they may have some good intentions at times but normally come off as douchey. If I am wearing a ski mask in a snow storm, ok. If I am wearing one as I enter a bank, well that's pure douche.

 

[Fingolfin269]

You can never be too careful. Someone may try to come and steal your rental.

 

[Larnz]

It seems crazy to me that you don't have to present ID or firearms license upon request from police. To me if you want to carry a gun down a road then it should be like driving a car, if you choose to do so that is fine but you should have to have your license on you ready to be presented if asked.

 

[tcsenter]

It seems crazy to me that you don't have to present ID or firearms license upon request from police. To me if you want to carry a gun down a road then it should be like driving a car, if you choose to do so that is fine but you should have to have your license on you ready to be presented if asked.

Check the Michigan Constitution, RKBA provision. It isn't worded in an "ambiguous" way like the 2nd Amendment of the federal constitution (which only becomes 'ambiguous' when you have already decided in advance that it couldn't possibly protect an individual right to keep and bear arms for the sake of a well-regulated militia, or that such a protection is "skeery, guns make me soooo skeerd"). No such luck for automobile owners to have a right to keep and drive cars enshrined in the constitution, state or federal.

 

[DaTT]

All these guys who make these videos are fucking stupid and trying to provoke. They aren't excersising (sp) any rights, they are doing to make a video and try to get a cop in trouble for responding to a call.

The first cop wasn't a BAD cop as he stated, he was concerned for the safety of the general public. The second cop just knew what kind of asshole the gun toting moron is and let him be on his merry way.

I'm all for open carry...or whatever your outdated amendment says, but whats the harm in showing ID?

 

[Tweak155]

Wow... Royal Oak... not too far from home. I don't particularly care if people exercise their gun rights, but making a scene out of it should be a crime in and of itself.

 

[sourceninja]

*decided not to preach*

 

[ch33zw1z]

Guy knows his rights, first LEO tried to do what they're trained to do...ignore your rights and hope you don't notice.

Outrage not found.

edit: video recording sucked.

 

[ch33zw1z]

*decided not to preach*

preach it brotha!

 

[PokerGuy]

First cop is an idiot and should be booted off the force. The second one did the right thing. Since when did exercising your rights, doing something perfectly legal under the law become such a problem?

 

[Zargon]

It seems crazy to me that you don't have to present ID or firearms license upon request from police. To me if you want to carry a gun down a road then it should be like driving a car, if you choose to do so that is fine but you should have to have your license on you ready to be presented if asked.

actually both your points are wrong.

you are not supposed to be stopped 'just so you can present ID'

the BS FISHING stops are an ongoing court struggle about violation of 4th amendment rights

you are supposed to be assumed innocent, not guilty.

its just been being pushed the other way everyone is used to it as OK