OP AMP basics...

abracadabra1

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I was wondering if anyone could give me a short, concise explanation of what exactly an op amp is and its importance to EE. My understanding is that is nothing more than a voltage manipulator? Is this correct? Or is there more to op amps....also a description of the components inside an op amp would be useful

Thanks in advance.
 

Chloraseptic

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op amps are a basic fundamental of any electrical class!

they're used mostly for amplifiers but can be configured as all sorts of things (oscillators, buffers, list goes on) inverting and noninverting input yada yada.

google it. i'm sure there's tons.
 

Mday

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Originally posted by: abracadabra1
I was wondering if anyone could give me a short, concise explanation of what exactly an op amp is and its importance to EE. My understanding is that is nothing more than a voltage manipulator? Is this correct? Or is there more to op amps....also a description of the components inside an op amp would be useful

Thanks in advance.

pretty much. it's all signal manipulation. an opamp has a few transistors in it and other passive devices (resistors). you can build an analog computer out of opamps.
 

abracadabra1

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Originally posted by: Chloraseptic
op amps are a basic fundamental of any electrical class!

they're used mostly for amplifiers but can be configured as all sorts of things (oscillators, buffers, list goes on) inverting and noninverting input yada yada.

google it. i'm sure there's tons.


I have my EE book...I was hoping for a more basic description that would help me understand how op amps work into the EE 'picture'.
 

Mday

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Originally posted by: abracadabra1
Originally posted by: Chloraseptic
op amps are a basic fundamental of any electrical class!

they're used mostly for amplifiers but can be configured as all sorts of things (oscillators, buffers, list goes on) inverting and noninverting input yada yada.

google it. i'm sure there's tons.


I have my EE book...I was hoping for a more basic description that would help me understand how op amps work into the EE 'picture'.

opamps are merely an arrangement of transistors. they are "obsolete" in terms of using ONE opamp. any chip you buy pretty much has several of them. they are operational amplifiers, they are used in amps. you enter one or several signals, and you get one signal out. operations are performed on those signals, such as "inverting" "adding" "multiplying" "differentiating" "integrating". if you want to do that, you can use an op amp. me? I would rather go digital with that. opamps are analog, btw, but can be used for digital applications. opamps were all the rage before dsp starting going off due to much more powerful computers.
 

abracadabra1

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Originally posted by: Mday
Originally posted by: abracadabra1
Originally posted by: Chloraseptic
op amps are a basic fundamental of any electrical class!

they're used mostly for amplifiers but can be configured as all sorts of things (oscillators, buffers, list goes on) inverting and noninverting input yada yada.

google it. i'm sure there's tons.


I have my EE book...I was hoping for a more basic description that would help me understand how op amps work into the EE 'picture'.

opamps are merely an arrangement of transistors. they are "obsolete" in terms of using ONE opamp. any chip you buy pretty much has several of them. they are operational amplifiers, they are used in amps. you enter one or several signals, and you get one signal out. operations are performed on those signals, such as "inverting" "adding" "multiplying" "differentiating" "integrating". if you want to do that, you can use an op amp. me? I would rather go digital with that. opamps are analog, btw, but can be used for digital applications. opamps were all the rage before dsp starting going off due to much more powerful computers.


Good post...thanks for the help.
 

uart

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Here's my summary

What is an OpAmp? :
It's a high gain, high input resistance, differential amplifier.

Why is that Useful? :
When a very high gain amplifier is used in conjunction with feedback components then the overall characteristics of the resultant circuit are determined almost entirely by the feedback elements, and not by the actual amplifier itself. This made the Op-Amp an ideal building block as, in principle, a single design opamp could be used for a multitude of different purposes simply by changing the feedback components (which are usually just simple passives like R's and C's).

In a nutshell, the advent of the integrated circuit opamp made it possible to have a single mass produced analog IC that could be easily configured to produce a wide range of different functions by just adding R's and C's (and sometimes other components) as required. The type of analog circuits that can be easily built from opamps include :

- Amplifiers of precise gain (inverting, non inverting or differential)
- Filters (eg high pass, low pass, band pass)
- Sample/Hold circuits
- Precision Rectifiers (absolute value function)
-Voltage Limiters (clamps)
- Differentiators (time derivative)
- Integrators (time integral)
- Adders, subtracters (and other mathematical functions).
- Numerous other things.

Is the OpAmp now Obsolete ? :
Not really, though the scope of their application is decreasing. To really answer this we should try to divide the applications into two main areas

1 - Basic Amplification and
2 - Analog Signal Processing.

While the above division is not really a clean one (many applications blur the line between the two categories and in a sense amplification could be considered as a simple form of signal processing anyway) I chose that "division" mainly to point out that it is more in the second area that the OpAmp is tending to become obsolete.

Of course the more difficult or intricate the analog signal processing application then the sooner it was (or will be) replaced by digital technology. For example the most extreme case I could think of would be that of the analog computer, where racks and racks or op-amp integrators, amplifiers and adder/subtracters, were patched together to simulate the differential equations some physical system under study and hence to predict it's behavior. Obviously these went he way of the Dinosaurs many decades ago. (BTW, my old University actually had one of these bad boys tucked away in a basement. Not in use hehe, but I did get to play around with it a bit before it eventually got sold off for scrap).

In general analog signal processing is being increasingly replaced by digital signal processing, but just the same there are still many simple applications where analog signal processing can be done more easily and more cheaply than a DSP. So don't be fooled into thinking they are no longer used. In particular, even where a DSP is used, it will generally require some analog "pre-processing" in the form of a pre-amp for good SNR and a pre-sample low pass filter to avoid aliasing (Nyquist limit). I'd say that OpAmps will still be around for the foreseeable future.