Only two percent of Blacks support McCain

[Socio]

CBS Poll: Obama Leads, But Race Fluid

The Candidates' Support:

Following in the footsteps of every Republican presidential candidate since 1964, McCain leads the Democratic candidate among registered white voters. (The margin is nine percent.) Obama leads overwhelmingly among blacks, 89 percent to 2 percent, while Hispanics favor Obama by a wide margin, 62 percent to 23 percent.

This is really a disgusting testament to racism in this country;

Only two percent of Blacks support McCain, yet Whites are almost evenly divided, this shows just how racist Blacks are in the US. They are obviously less concerned with the issues, quality of leadership or future of the nation and more concerned with the color of one?s skin. If they were then it would be more evenly divided.

Other countries claim the US is the most racist?s country in the world and I think they are right but it is not Whites.

 

[bamacre]

Socio, if you think this is a problem, what is your final solution?

 

[ayabe]

Yeah racism, sure.

What a cop out.

W has done nothing for black people and neither will McSame.

Perhaps unlike stupid poverty striken white people who continue to vote against their economic self interest by voting Republican, blacks are instead voting for someone who they believe will fight for them.

In summary, there is nothing racist about voting in your own self interest.

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Socio, if you think this is a problem, what is your final solution?

Most likely to indicate to the NAACP that problems start at home.

 

[Red Dawn]

The vast majority of Republicans who also happen to not be black are not voting for Obama, using Socio's logic they must be racist too.:roll:

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Yeah racism, sure.

What a cop out.

W has done nothing for black people and neither will McSame.

Perhaps unlike stupid poverty striken white people who continue to vote against their economic self interest by voting Republican, blacks are instead voting for someone who they believe will fight for them.

In summary, there is nothing racist about voting in your own self interest.

Apparently you know what should be in whites' self interest better than they.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: ayabe
Yeah racism, sure.

What a cop out.

W has done nothing for black people and neither will McSame.

Perhaps unlike stupid poverty striken white people who continue to vote against their economic self interest by voting Republican, blacks are instead voting for someone who they believe will fight for them.

In summary, there is nothing racist about voting in your own self interest.

Apparently you know what should be in whites' self interest better than they.

Apparently you aren't a reader.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The vast majority of Republicans who also happen to not be black are not voting for Obama, using Socio's logic they must be racist too.:roll:

anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist... did you miss the memo? it went out shortly after the WV primary.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Socio
CBS Poll: Obama Leads, But Race Fluid

The Candidates' Support:

Following in the footsteps of every Republican presidential candidate since 1964, McCain leads the Democratic candidate among registered white voters. (The margin is nine percent.) Obama leads overwhelmingly among blacks, 89 percent to 2 percent, while Hispanics favor Obama by a wide margin, 62 percent to 23 percent.

This is really a disgusting testament to racism in this country;

Only two percent of Blacks support McCain, yet Whites are almost evenly divided, this shows just how racist Blacks are in the US. They are obviously less concerned with the issues, quality of leadership or future of the nation and more concerned with the color of one?s skin. If they were then it would be more evenly divided.

Other countries claim the US is the most racist?s country in the world and I think they are right but it is not Whites.

Excuse me, but where does it say that the majority of blacks are not voting for McCain because he's white? Or even that they are voting for Obama because he's black? I don't think you have any proof of anything. In order to show racism, you have to ASK why the voters are voting for their candidate. If you recall, in some of the exit polls taken in southern states during the primaries, in some cases 20% or more were NOT voting for Obama because he's black.

Frankly, I don't think you understand racism and what it is or isn't.

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The vast majority of Republicans who also happen to not be black are not voting for Obama, using Socio's logic they must be racist too.:roll:

anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist... did you miss the memo? it went out shortly after the WV primary.

Interesting.. I heard Obama's wife and pastor were racists..

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The vast majority of Republicans who also happen to not be black are not voting for Obama, using Socio's logic they must be racist too.:roll:

anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist... did you miss the memo? it went out shortly after the WV primary.

Interesting.. I heard Obama's wife and pastor were racists..

You got those emails too?

 

[Butterbean]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Yeah racism, sure.

What a cop out.

W has done nothing for black people and neither will McSame.

Perhaps unlike stupid poverty striken white people who continue to vote against their economic self interest by voting Republican, blacks are instead voting for someone who they believe will fight for them.

In summary, there is nothing racist about voting in your own self interest.

I hate to defend Bush but his admin has had more blacks and minorities than anyone (not that I care). He has also tried to do more for Africa than anyone and he is very popular there (I thought it was all a mistake to send so much money to corrupt leaders there).

Blacks are often the most conservative on social issues (they are group most against homosexual marriage - perhaps partly due to their anger over always being compared to homosexuals) so voting for BO hardly represents their self interest that neatly.

 

[DealMonkey]

By the way, in the 1992 elections, 83% of blacks voted for Clinton. In '96 it went up to 84% of blacks voting for Clinton. Oh gawd! The reverse racism!

:roll:

 

[jpeyton]

I don't understand. Obama is the overwhelming favorite to win in November, so you would *expect* his numbers to be higher than normal in almost every demographic, *especially* in Democratic strongholds.

Blacks and Hispanics are Democratic strongholds. This election year highly favors Democrats. Why is it called racism when people don't want to vote for a third Bush term?

 

[HomerJS]

Racism huh??

Bet McCain doesn't get hate mail threating his life because he is a white man running for President

 

[jonks]

I think one needs to look at how blacks voted in 2000 and 2004 re: Dem vs Rep to see if this is statistically significant. If in those years blacks voted over 90% for Gore and Kerry, I think it's disingenuous to claim that this time it's all about race, ignoring the political party structure most likely responsible.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Butterbean

Originally posted by: ayabe
Yeah racism, sure.

What a cop out.

W has done nothing for black people and neither will McSame.

Perhaps unlike stupid poverty striken white people who continue to vote against their economic self interest by voting Republican, blacks are instead voting for someone who they believe will fight for them.

In summary, there is nothing racist about voting in your own self interest.

I hate to defend Bush but his admin has had more blacks and minorities than anyone (not that I care). He has also tried to do more for Africa than anyone and he is very popular there (I thought it was all a mistake to send so much money to corrupt leaders there).

Blacks are often the most conservative on social issues (they are group most against homosexual marriage - perhaps partly due to their anger over always being compared to homosexuals) so voting for BO hardly represents their self interest that neatly.

Blacks are always compared to homosexuals? What does that mean?

Homosexuality carries a much larger stigma in the black community than the white community, but I don't really know where you are going with that.

If the economy weren't in the crapper then I could see more people of all groups voting based on social issues. But that isn't where we're at currently.

The economy is the number 1 issue and Obama's approach is much more appealing than McCain's to just about everyone who isn't in the top 1%.

This I believe is a very logical explanation for the disparity here.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: ayabe

Originally posted by: Butterbean

Originally posted by: ayabe
Yeah racism, sure.

What a cop out.

W has done nothing for black people and neither will McSame.

Perhaps unlike stupid poverty striken white people who continue to vote against their economic self interest by voting Republican, blacks are instead voting for someone who they believe will fight for them.

In summary, there is nothing racist about voting in your own self interest.

I hate to defend Bush but his admin has had more blacks and minorities than anyone (not that I care). He has also tried to do more for Africa than anyone and he is very popular there (I thought it was all a mistake to send so much money to corrupt leaders there).

Blacks are often the most conservative on social issues (they are group most against homosexual marriage - perhaps partly due to their anger over always being compared to homosexuals) so voting for BO hardly represents their self interest that neatly.

Blacks are always compared to homosexuals? What does that mean?

Homosexuality carries a much larger stigma in the black community than the white community, but I don't really know where you are going with that.

Gay rights is currently the hot civil rights movement, and the last one was black rights. Many articles about equal rights for gays reference how the last time such and such was tried it was in the era of segregation. It's only natural to look to the last time civil rights battles were fought in seeking to draw parallels. As Ayabe said, black leaders have been pretty outspoken in their disagreement that gay rights should be compared to black rights. They have somewhat of a point in that gays aren't allowed to marry, while blacks hadn't been allowed to go to certain schools, sit or eat in certain places, etc. But the stigma against homosexuality in the black community also plays a role in the blacks' attempt to distance their battles from the ones gays now fight. One rarely sees black leaders strongly condemn a woman's rights group for articulating a position and comparing it to racial discrimination.

 

[DealMonkey]

In 2004, 88% of blacks voted for John Kerry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...dential_election,_2004

Put a fork in this thread, it's dumb. Er, done.

:laugh:

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Socio

This is really a disgusting testament to racism in this country;

Maybe they're right that Obama is just a much better candidate than McShame, regardless of race.

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
The vast majority of Republicans who also happen to not be black are not voting for Obama, using Socio's logic they must be racist too.:roll:

Well according to the statistics provided, that is 2%.

 

[Toasthead]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I don't understand. Obama is the overwhelming favorite to win in November, so you would *expect* his numbers to be higher than normal in almost every demographic, *especially* in Democratic strongholds.

Blacks and Hispanics are Democratic strongholds. This election year highly favors Democrats. Why is it called racism when people don't want to vote for a third Bush term?

That's funny... all the polls show a statistical deadlock. Where are you getting this 'overwhelming favorite' information from? The LA Times?

 

[frostedflakes]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
In 2004, 88% of blacks voted for John Kerry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U...dential_election,_2004

Put a fork in this thread, it's dumb. Er, done.

:laugh:

/thread

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Toasthead

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I don't understand. Obama is the overwhelming favorite to win in November, so you would *expect* his numbers to be higher than normal in almost every demographic, *especially* in Democratic strongholds.

Blacks and Hispanics are Democratic strongholds. This election year highly favors Democrats. Why is it called racism when people don't want to vote for a third Bush term?

That's funny... all the polls show a statistical deadlock. Where are you getting this 'overwhelming favorite' information from? The LA Times?

How bout Vegas, you know, the people that actually make or lose money based on the outcome.

Senator Barack Obama remains the favorite with 1-2 odds (a $100 wager pays out $50). John McCain is right behind him 3-2 odds (a $100 wager pays out $150).

2008 Presidential Odds Sponsored by Sportsbook.com

Barack Obama - 1-2

John McCain - 3-2

2008 Presidential Odds Sponsored by BodogLife

John McCain - +130

Barack Obama - -200

But gambling and odds are exactly that, predictions on likelihood, not certainties.

 

[bamacre]

As pointed out, it is not so much that blacks support Obama as much as it is blacks supporting Democrats.

The two parties both are responsible for making the other look like total douchebags. If reality was what the sheeple are led to believe, one would think that the Republicans are nothing but a bunch of greedy KKK members, and that the Democrats are nothing but gay atheistic socialists.

Both parties are responsible for this fear-mongering, and as well, these stereotypes are meant to divide the people on basically unimportant issues, sheltering the politicians, on both sides, from solving and talking about the real problems our nation faces.

Abortion, gay marriage, even illegal immigration, are all examples of issues handed to us from politicians who don't want to tackle real problems and take stands on important policies.

The result is not the fault of those swindlers in DC, it is the peoples' fault for being ignorant of the real issues and cowering to the imaginative fears.

We live in a time when issues such as abortion and gay marriage are perceived to be much more important than foreign policy, trade agreements, and even war and our civil liberties.

We as a nation are in trouble. We have accepted the mentality given to us by those on the hill, and rejected our own righteous thoughts of truth and justice. The Devil only has the power to tempt us, it is we who have the power of choice. We have chosen to give up our ruby slippers to the the wicked witch, and we needed them to get home. Shall we be forever lost?