Only 3 out of 10 Americans want this Healthcare bill passed

nick1985

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/01/26/poll.health.care/index.html

"Washington (CNN) -- Only three in ten Americans say they want Congress to pass legislation similar to the health care reform bills that have already been approved by the House and Senate, according to a new national poll.

A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey also indicates that nearly half the public, 48 percent, would like federal lawmakers to start work on an entirely new bill, and 21 percent feel Congress should stop working an any bills that would change the country's health care system.

The survey's Tuesday release comes one week after Republican Scott Brown's victory in a special senate election in Massachusetts. The GOP win means once Brown is sworn in as a senator, the Democrats will lose their 60-seat super-majority in the chamber, making their chances of passing the current health care reform legislation extremely difficult.

"Opposition to health care legislation is highest among senior citizens," said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "Twenty-nine percent of people over 65 want Congress to stop working on health care completely, compared to 20 percent of people under the age of 50."

Fifty-eight percent of people questioned in the survey oppose the bills previously passed by the House and Senate, with 38 percent supporting that legislation.

Would a stripped-down version win more support from the public?

"Yes, but a majority would still oppose a bill that would increase regulations on health insurance companies but not increase the number of Americans with health coverage," Holland said. "Support for a bill that only deals with insurance companies rises to 47 percent, but 51 percent would oppose a bill like that."

The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll was conducted January 22-24, with 1,009 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points"




If the dems even want to hold onto a majority in the Senate/House, they need to start looking at some polls.
 

CrackRabbit

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I find it interesting that most of the people against the bill are seniors.
They are being scared by the thought that Medicare will be "taken away".
 

zsdersw

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Even though I have issues with the bill, I really want to see this thing get passed.. somehow, for two reasons:

1. It's time that Democrats grew a pair.

2. See the results, the maneuvering, and what happens next.
 

Sinsear

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It doesn't matter. They are going to ram it through anyways.

With the national health care summit called by the President Barack Obama now complete, U.S. Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, remains confident that a health care reform bill will be passed by Congress, and adamant that it will be done with or without support from Republicans.

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nick1985

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It doesn't matter. They are going to ram it through anyways.



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Doesnt it still have to get by the house if they do that?

Did anyone else happen to hear soundbytes of Obama, Biden, Hillary, and a couple of others from a few years ago going nuts when Bush did the 51 vote thing? Odd how they were up in arms about it then, but have no problems with it now.
 

Jhhnn

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One of the things that the polls don't show, and that Righties simply choose to deny, is that many who don't favor the bill think it doesn't go far enough. Much of the disfavor is also the result of fear of change and the FUD campaign from Repubs- "Death Panels" and all that.

Either you're completely ignorant of history, nick1985, and the rules of the Senate, or you're just doing your own little part in the disinformation campaign wrt to your 51 vote comment...

Gotta have your little dose of self-righteous outrage and indignation, right? You probably never saw Dana Carvey's "Church Lady" routine on SNL, either...
 

highland145

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Is that just a hunch, or is there any polling to back that up

Hunch, looking at the posts here that are for and against. Maybe you could start one but it won't change any opinions if it were 1 out of 10 or 9 out of 10.

But I've never seen any real poll that couldn't be skewed.
 

nick1985

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Either you're completely ignorant of history, nick1985, and the rules of the Senate, or you're just doing your own little part in the disinformation campaign wrt to your 51 vote comment...

I understand history quite well. I see these jokers slamming this maneuver in 2005, now they seem to be for it.

You disagree?
 

Patranus

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But those idiots don't know what is good for them and they simply do not understand what we are trying to do.

We must explain it to those simpletons one more time so they can understand it.

If they don't understand it, it is because evil talk radio is spreading lies so we should pass it anyways.

/"progressive"

The funny part is that the Senate bill wont even pass the House.
 

Craig234

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One of the things that the polls don't show, and that Righties simply choose to deny, is that many who don't favor the bill think it doesn't go far enough. Much of the disfavor is also the result of fear of change and the FUD campaign from Repubs- "Death Panels" and all that.

Either you're completely ignorant of history, nick1985, and the rules of the Senate, or you're just doing your own little part in the disinformation campaign wrt to your 51 vote comment...

Gotta have your little dose of self-righteous outrage and indignation, right? You probably never saw Dana Carvey's "Church Lady" routine on SNL, either...

This is supported by, as Obama said in the meeting, polls showing each of the major parts of the bill having strong public support - a point bill opponents have never addressed.

Provisions the public opposed in the Senate bill such as the Nebraska $65 million and unequal treatment for union and non-union taxtion are gone in the current bill with Obama's changes.

The OP's own poll shows only 21% supporting not passing a bill - not the 70% some opponents imply.

The problem IMO is not having the public option at least, while we should really pass 'Medicare for all'.
 

nick1985

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Why is any poll relevant? I hate polls. Asking a 1000 random idiots about a healthcare bill they know almost nothing about is just a waste of time and effort.

sarcasm? Or are you parroting typical liberal sentiment of the average American (elitism)
 

Patranus

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This is supported by, as Obama said in the meeting, polls showing each of the major parts of the bill having strong public support - a point bill opponents have never addressed.

So start over and incorporate those points such as deregulation and portability.

The Democrats don't want to give up the pork and handouts in their current bill and know that much of it will be eliminated if they have to start over.
 

GaryJohnson

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Doesnt it still have to get by the house if they do that?

Did anyone else happen to hear soundbytes of Obama, Biden, Hillary, and a couple of others from a few years ago going nuts when Bush did the 51 vote thing? Odd how they were up in arms about it then, but have no problems with it now.

Likewise when the repubs had no problem with it then, they are up in arms about it now.

Basically from both sides: "It's OK when we do it, but not OK when they do it."
 

nick1985

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Likewise when the repubs had no problem with it then, they are up in arms about it now.

Basically from both sides: "It's OK when we do it, but not OK when they do it."

McCain and a few other repubs had a problem with it then, as now. But for the most part you are right.