Don't worry, that's normal. The book is usually always better than the movie. You need to see it for what it is.
Don't worry, that's normal. The book is usually always better than the movie. You need to see it for what it is.
There were ~3000 greek soldiers, 300 of which were spartans (All-sire unit = suicide mission). They held for a very long time, after which the rest of the Greeks were released and the Spartans remained to fight to the death.
Go find and read "Gates of Fire" by some guy whose name I forgot. Excellent read, about this battle. I would rather the movie be based on the book.
About greek attire, the spartans had almost full armor, if I recall. I know they at least wore full breastplates, helmets with very full faceplates, and at least some protection on their legs. Those sheilds also look small to me.
Connoisseur
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Originally posted by: datalink7
Historical records...
Yeah. Watch the history channel once in a while. 300 men HELD OFF hundreds of thousands of troops which is absolutely unbelievable in and of itself. Of course it helped that they picked a pass that could only fit like 5 men wide at a time and the fact that they had much better armor.
Also turns out that Spartans were encouraged to be gay. Just an interesting fact in history.
Mo0o
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Didn't they fight naked and oiled up? I swear thats waht the documentary saidOriginally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: datalink7
Historical records...
Yeah. Watch the history channel once in a while. 300 men HELD OFF hundreds of thousands of troops which is absolutely unbelievable in and of itself. Of course it helped that they picked a pass that could only fit like 5 men wide at a time and the fact that they had much better armor.
Also turns out that Spartans were encouraged to be gay. Just an interesting fact in history.
unfortunately, the way that the 300 died was that a traitor told the enemy king how he could route his army around the 300 soldiers. they did and came up behind em.
that looks cool as ******, though.
that looks cool as ******, though.
datalink7
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Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: datalink7
Historical records...
Yeah. Watch the history channel once in a while. 300 men HELD OFF hundreds of thousands of troops which is absolutely unbelievable in and of itself. Of course it helped that they picked a pass that could only fit like 5 men wide at a time and the fact that they had much better armor.
Also turns out that Spartans were encouraged to be gay. Just an interesting fact in history.
I wasn't denying that there were 300 spartans. Just the "300 vs 500,000" numbers. There were 300 spartains, plus anywhere from 3,000-10,000 allies. The Persian Army ranged anywhere from 60,000-250,000, with best estimates putting it around the 100,000-125,000 mark. And it's not like they killed the whole Persian army either. They lost the battle, tactically. But it was one of the grestest last stands of all time and allowed them to win the war.
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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: datalink7
Historical records...
Yeah. Watch the history channel once in a while. 300 men HELD OFF hundreds of thousands of troops which is absolutely unbelievable in and of itself. Of course it helped that they picked a pass that could only fit like 5 men wide at a time and the fact that they had much better armor.
Also turns out that Spartans were encouraged to be gay. Just an interesting fact in history.
I wasn't denying that there were 300 spartans. Just the "300 vs 500,000" numbers. There were 300 spartains, plus anywhere from 3,000-10,000 allies. The Persian Army ranged anywhere from 60,000-250,000, with best estimates putting it around the 100,000-125,000 mark. And it's not like they killed the whole Persian army either. They lost the battle, tactically. But it was one of the grestest last stands of all time and allowed them to win the war.
Datalink I wasn't denying your statements. I was refuting Kelvrick.
Doesn't seem physically possible that they killed 500k ppl with 300. I would say 3-5k would be more realistic, at best.. But it seems they held off long enough for allied support to win.
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it is written by Frank Miller, so it's most likely highly embelished. I love Frank Miller's Batman comics, and such, and will most likely see the movie. I will just go in knowing that's it's mostly comic book.
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: Connoisseur
Originally posted by: datalink7
Historical records...
Yeah. Watch the history channel once in a while. 300 men HELD OFF hundreds of thousands of troops which is absolutely unbelievable in and of itself. Of course it helped that they picked a pass that could only fit like 5 men wide at a time and the fact that they had much better armor.
Also turns out that Spartans were encouraged to be gay. Just an interesting fact in history.
I wasn't denying that there were 300 spartans. Just the "300 vs 500,000" numbers. There were 300 spartains, plus anywhere from 3,000-10,000 allies. The Persian Army ranged anywhere from 60,000-250,000, with best estimates putting it around the 100,000-125,000 mark. And it's not like they killed the whole Persian army either. They lost the battle, tactically. But it was one of the grestest last stands of all time and allowed them to win the war.
Datalink I wasn't denying your statements. I was refuting Kelvrick.
I'm sorry if I haven't seen any recent history channel specials, but last I heard, there weren't any dependable historical records from the era, only stories. Thats why I was wondering how you seemed to be so sure of yourself to make such a confident statement.
Wow, I'm really shocked to see such positive comments. I think it looks pretty silly/bad.
Guess I'm the odd one out.
Guess I'm the odd one out.
:laugh: (joke might be wasted to most though)
Saw the trailer this weekend and thought it looked good.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae I think the movie is about this battle...not too sure...
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yeah looks like it will be good.
they just had a good show on them on history Int channel a month ago. pretty amazing. they sent people away because they knew they would lose. but a good amount volunteered to stay and fight. ended up dieing but damn what a story.
they just had a good show on them on history Int channel a month ago. pretty amazing. they sent people away because they knew they would lose. but a good amount volunteered to stay and fight. ended up dieing but damn what a story.
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