One mans terrorist in another mans freedom fighter

Zebo

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Proof

CIA paid the man for years... blew resturants and airliners in South America.. now his benefactors the USG government refuses to extraidite him. Ther're using the "paper work" excuse....Place bets he'll never leave this country?
 

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He knows too much about the U.S. involvement in drug trafficking and terror attacks in Central America that helped the U.S. spread its version of colonialism. I seriously doubt he'll leave the borders of this country (at least not alive.) For much the same reason I don't think we'll see Saddam go on trial.
 

Steeplerot

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This man is downright evil, our Osama, except Osama never spread crack through our streets for Reagan and Bush.

Notice how the righties will dispute stupid stuff but when It comes to Iran contra and America's terrorism, they are dead silent.

This is exactly the stuff that the government is up to that made me shrug when the Towers went down and think, Who did they piss off now?

When we cozy up to these people and do things like LET Reagan have a pass at lying about involvment, heck not even involvement but mastermind this,

I wonder who OBL and their ilk's side are really on.

Sadly enough it could very well be ours like people here in NYC think. You grow up around the mob ,smugglers, and all the other crap, it's not a stretch at all, and these people have

the reputation, the means, and the motive. Daddy Bush could very well have been IN Iran selling weapons from what eyewitnesses are saying there, and the govt. is not even denying it.

We have pics of Rummy shaking Saddam's hand after bringing over a nice care backet of nerve gas for the happy resident's of Karbala.

And the beat goes on....

I really wonder what Iraq is all about? Oil seems too obvious...and these folks could care less in real life about religion.
 

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From the National Security Archive: (They have no shame at all)

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB153/">The National Security Archive today posted additional documents that show that the CIA had concrete advance intelligence, as early as June 1976, on plans by Cuban exile terrorist groups to bomb a Cubana airliner. The Archive also posted another document that shows that the FBI's attache in Caracas had multiple contacts with one of the Venezuelans who placed the bomb on the plane, and provided him with a visa to the U.S. five days before the bombing, despite suspicions that he was engaged in terrorist activities at the direction of Luis Posada Carriles.

Both documents were featured last night on ABC Nightline's program on Luis Posada Carriles, who was detained in Miami yesterday by Homeland Security.</a>



In other words america, wake up, the towers go boom this is nothing new, reagan and bush have been up to this for ages.




According to Peter Kornbluh, who directs the Archive's Cuba Documentation Project, Posada's presence in the United States "poses a direct challenge to the Bush administration's terrorism policy. The declassified record," he said, "leaves no doubt that Posada has been one of the world's most unremitting purveyors of terrorist violence." President Bush has repeatedly stated that no nation should harbor terrorists, and all nations should work to bring individuals who advocate and employ the use of terror tactics to justice. During the Presidential campaign last year Bush stated that "I think you can create conditions so that those who use terror as a tool are less acceptable in parts of the world." Although Posada has reportedly been in the Miami area for more than six weeks, the FBI has indicated it is not actively searching for him.


So in other words Bush whines about terorism while harboring some of the worlds worst terrorists right under your nose.

How do you feel being a citizen of the allies one of the world's most unremitting purveyors of terrorist violence? and you people relected the idiots AGAIN... :roll:

And if the south american terrorism isn't bad enough.. this sh1t freaks me out even more. WTF? Didn't these people just BOMB us? Yes, they did. And they are sending more support to kill our soldiers in Iraq right now. Impeach this fool.
 

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anyone have a apololgy for american terrorism? I'd really like to hear a reason we are morally superior to at least OBL in any way shape or form?

No outrage over the republicans using your taxmoney for cocaine smuggling and paying terrorists to down passenger jets full of peoples familys in the name of the red white and blue?
 

Zebo

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They won't comment. The ends always justifies the means. Like taking out demcratric elected leftys in south america, hit squads, torture crews whatever... They don't care if we kill 10 million Iraqis, as long as we "win", whatever that means at that point. They are so childish they think we should have annihilated veitman and "won". Liberation and freesom ideals they spout sorta becomes mute when you kill half or more of the opposition.
 

Steeplerot

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Well, I hope they enjoy their sheltered life as traitors....

they show the guts of rural america when it comes to answering questions about our own problems and quick to blame the rest of the world.

Anyone? I am calling all you bush supporters out as cowards with 0% moral backbone, responsible for the complacency....

You people are harboring and aiding terrorism no better then those who are feeding osama his evening meal tonight in some godforsaken cave somewhere no doubt..
 

Beowulf

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I agree Posada should be deported to a country where he will face a fair trial Panama, Honduras, Guatemala,Mexico, or Italy.Like wise I want Castro to hand over the terrorist he habors in his country even those under the guise of being from national liberation armies.

Joanne Chesimard - convicted murderer

Victor Manuel Gerena - member of Puerto Rico's Macheteros' terrorist group, who is on the FBI most wanted fugitives list in connection with a $7 million bank robbery in Connecticut.

Dozens of members from Spains ETA,Colombia's FARC and ELN.
 

Steeplerot

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There is a huge double-standard americans have with terrorism, it's ok to kill south americans and cuban innocents, but some white folk get killed, they have a free pass to run rampant and murder in whatever country we need resources from and to show off our new gadgetry of death for sale.

Next time you right wing yuppie cokeheads do a line remember to thank your terrorist government.
 

Beowulf

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
There is a huge double-standard americans have with terrorism, it's ok to kill south americans and cuban innocents, but some white folk get killed, they have a free pass to run rampant and murder in whatever country we need resources from and to show off our new gadgetry of death for sale.


Cuban over here and everyone has a double standard if you believe Cuba doesn't habor terrorist you are completely wrong.Do you know Cuba helped such groups like the Sandinistas to rise to power?What about the Soviets,Cubans and Americans in Angola doing a free for all to have influence in the country.
 

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
and we sent our death squads out and slaughtered them by the thousands, who did the sandinistas bomb?


How are the Sandinistas doing in the voting now at days.Hell they haven't won an election for president yet atleast the Contras did something for their country.When are you going to go out and fight for you're ideals.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
There is a huge double-standard americans have with terrorism, it's ok to kill south americans and cuban innocents, but some white folk get killed, they have a free pass to run rampant and murder in whatever country we need resources from and to show off our new gadgetry of death for sale.

Next time you right wing yuppie cokeheads do a line remember to thank your terrorist government.

I would'nt go that far. Sufficed to say the media selectivly covers this stuff so thier not aware for the most part. The don't cover it because it's not an issue with the politicians, obvisouly since they instititue these policy.

And the press is thier lapdog for access. Talk about what we don't want to to talk about? good luck ever getting in a press confernce or anyone in your network getting a press core pass to the white house or capital.

The government could turn NBC news into an internet blog if they wanted.

 

Beowulf

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So what's you're guys opinion on the terrorists in Cuba or are you going to take a hands off approach.
 

Steeplerot

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South America is moving forward unlike this country that continues to use terrorism to promote it's agenda, are you justifying to terrorism of thousands by this country and the cocaine spread across the nation for a failed ideal of imperialism?

I'd like to hear why then.

I haven't heard anything from osama latley I am curious to hear what is going on in the mind of the white man's taliban here.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Beowulf
So what's you're guys opinion on the terrorists in Cuba or are you going to take a hands off approach.

We could have killed Castro lots of times.. every time he goes to ROME for one. The government does'nt want to, I don't know why. We sure should and re-patriate those 3 million cubans living in USA.
 

Beowulf

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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
South America is moving forward unlike this country that continues to use terrorism to promote it's agenda, are you justifying to terrorism of thousands by this country and the cocaine spread across the nation for a failed ideal of imperialism?

I'd like to hear why then.


Who said I am supporting terrorism and cocaine you must be imagining things.If you don't believe terrorism happens in South America and that Castro doesn't habor and help groups like ELN,and FARC then you must be keeping a closed eye.You say I talk about Nicaragua and support terror yet I tell you they fought for their ideals and Nicaragua now has free elections and no Sandinistas has won a presidential election.Was it dirty yes but the Contras don't exist and their has been 3 presidential elections since then.
 

Beowulf

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Beowulf
So what's you're guys opinion on the terrorists in Cuba or are you going to take a hands off approach.

We could have killed Castro lots of times.. every time he goes to ROME for one. The government does'nt want to, I don't know why. We sure should and re-patriate those 3 million cubans living in USA.


Why should we send the Cuban's back because alot of them are more successful then you;).Cuban's made Miami and established their presence in the US thats a big thing for a minority.All Cuban's wish to go back once Castro and his regime fall it's their wish to see the Habana that once was I'd love to see 22 y 12 once again myself.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Beowulf
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Beowulf
So what's you're guys opinion on the terrorists in Cuba or are you going to take a hands off approach.

We could have killed Castro lots of times.. every time he goes to ROME for one. The government does'nt want to, I don't know why. We sure should and re-patriate those 3 million cubans living in USA.


Why should we send the Cuban's back because alot of them are more successful then you;).Cuban's made Miami and established their presence in the US thats a big thing for a minority.All Cuban's wish to go back once Castro and his regime fall it's their wish to see the Habana that once was I'd love to see 22 y 12 once again myself.

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I did'nt say we should force them back. Hell I might even go.. I like thier white beaches nice weather...used to be the paradise of the caribbean before castro ruined the place.. they'd go back if we took out the beard and his top people.
 

Beowulf

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Beowulf
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Beowulf
So what's you're guys opinion on the terrorists in Cuba or are you going to take a hands off approach.

We could have killed Castro lots of times.. every time he goes to ROME for one. The government does'nt want to, I don't know why. We sure should and re-patriate those 3 million cubans living in USA.


Why should we send the Cuban's back because alot of them are more successful then you;).Cuban's made Miami and established their presence in the US thats a big thing for a minority.All Cuban's wish to go back once Castro and his regime fall it's their wish to see the Habana that once was I'd love to see 22 y 12 once again myself.

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I did'nt say we should force them back. Hell I might even go.. I like thier white beaches nice weather...used to be the paradise of the caribbean before castro ruined the place.. they'd go back if we took out the beard and his top people.


:eek:Ah heh forgive me I didn't know you meant it like.I agree the beaches are beautiful and the sand is real white.I agree they'd go back well a good portion some families are already established here.

BTW :thumbsup: one of the few ppl who actually know Cuba was better before well except for the corrupt Batista luckily for us we got much worse after him.:(
 

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Originally posted by: Beowulf
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
There is a huge double-standard americans have with terrorism, it's ok to kill south americans and cuban innocents, but some white folk get killed, they have a free pass to run rampant and murder in whatever country we need resources from and to show off our new gadgetry of death for sale.


Cuban over here and everyone has a double standard if you believe Cuba doesn't habor terrorist you are completely wrong.Do you know Cuba helped such groups like the Sandinistas to rise to power?What about the Soviets,Cubans and Americans in Angola doing a free for all to have influence in the country.
What about the central fact here though: the U.S. has sponsored terrorist actions around the World. Do you support that?
 

Beowulf

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Originally posted by: arsbanned
Originally posted by: Beowulf
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
There is a huge double-standard americans have with terrorism, it's ok to kill south americans and cuban innocents, but some white folk get killed, they have a free pass to run rampant and murder in whatever country we need resources from and to show off our new gadgetry of death for sale.


Cuban over here and everyone has a double standard if you believe Cuba doesn't habor terrorist you are completely wrong.Do you know Cuba helped such groups like the Sandinistas to rise to power?What about the Soviets,Cubans and Americans in Angola doing a free for all to have influence in the country.
What about the central fact here though: the U.S. has sponsored terrorist actions around the World. Do you support that?


No but we aren't the only ones maybe not on a global scale that we could pull but look at recent actions of countries like Venezuela protecting a FARC leader(Rodrigo Granda).Which made Colombia go into their borders to get him and that guy planned the kidnapping/killing of Cecilia Cubas former paraguayan presidents daughter.Terrorism is alive and well in this world and you nor me can stop the actions of it.