Once Repubs call for vote of no confidence on McCarthy, how should Dems respond?

[JEDI]

Not if but WHEN a Repub calls a no confidence vote...

I think all the Dems should vote yes to remove him.

If removed,Then the Speaker circus starts all over again.

Delay delay delay... Take a page from the Repub handbook.
kill as much time off the clock to the next election where hopefully the Dems regain majority

 

[brycejones]

The Dems should do it constantly just to show the GOP how stupid the rule is. Also it’s hard to hold hearings about Hunter’s dick pics if you are constantly having to vote to keep the speaker in office.

 

[Moonbeam]

Nothing is more tempting than an eye for an eye. But the right of self preservation in the face of implacable insanity surely at times must effected. The tension between a desire to get even and the recognition and response toof a legitimate response to an imminent threat is something attachment to sacred ego cows will happily blur.

 

[Greenman]

Not if but WHEN a Repub calls a no confidence vote...

I think all the Dems should vote yes to remove him.

If removed,Then the Speaker circus starts all over again.

Delay delay delay... Take a page from the Repub handbook.
kill as much time off the clock to the next election where hopefully the Dems regain majority

That's not a bad situation. In the long run it will save a couple trillion of deficit spending.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Nothing is more tempting than an eye for an eye. But the right of self preservation in the face of implacable insanity surely at times must effected. The tension between a desire to get even and the recognition and response toof a legitimate response to an imminent threat is something attachment to sacred ego cows will happily blur.

Fuck them, they wanted that rule they can damn well deal with that rule. Also it will put a consequence to completely caving to the lunatic fringe and make it painful to cave again.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

That's not a bad situation. In the long run it will save a couple trillion of deficit spending.

Meh Republicans have taken the run huge deficits title about two decades ago.

 

[woolfe9998]

Meh Republicans have taken the run huge deficits title about two decades ago.

Indeed.

Reagan, start: $78.9 billion, end: $152.6 billion
GHWB, start: $152.6 billion, end: $255 billion
Clinton, start: $255 billion, end: [$128 billion] surplus
GWB, start: [$128 billion] surplus, end: $1.41 trillion
Obama, start: $1.41 trillion, end: $584 billion
Trump, start: $584 billion, end: $2.7 trillion

I can't believe anyone still votes for republicans on grounds of "fiscal responsibility."

What a con.

 

[zinfamous]

Indeed.

Reagan, start: $78.9 billion, end: $152.6 billion
GHWB, start: $152.6 billion, end: $255 billion
Clinton, start: $255 billion, end: [$128 billion] surplus
GWB, start: [$128 billion] surplus, end: $1.41 trillion
Obama, start: $1.41 trillion, end: $584 billion
Trump, start: $584 billion, end: $2.7 trillion

I can't believe anyone still votes for republicans on grounds of "fiscal responsibility." What a con.

to be fair their voters are the dumbest humans to have ever roamed the planet.

 

[Meghan54]

to be fair their voters are the dumbest humans to have ever roamed the planet.

And when u show them those figures, they just deny/avoid/“fake”. As long as Repub dupport racism, they’ll have a huge base in the US for the foreseeable future…sadly.

 

[theeedude]

Play "Let's make a deal."

 

[JEDI]

Gaetz went on to say that if McCarthy should seek to make concessions to the far-right caucus in order to win, he would sentence himself to governing in a “straitjacket for the entirety of his term.”

McCarthy:

CAnt wait for Mon for MCarthy's 1st session as Speaker.

 

[K1052]

If they want to have continual speaker fights now till the government shuts down in September I don't care and the Ds should help this come to pass.

 

[IronWing]

The crap the Freedom Caucus is demanding is the mainstream Republican agenda anyway. I don’t think McCarthy has any reason not to deliver.

 

[fskimospy]

That's not a bad situation. In the long run it will save a couple trillion of deficit spending.

What I think is interesting is people very confidently say deficit spending is bad but are never able to explain why.

My personal guess is they think government finances are like household finances which is essentially saying they don’t know how money works.

 

[Greenman]

What I think is interesting is people very confidently say deficit spending is bad but are never able to explain why.

My personal guess is they think government finances are like household finances which is essentially saying they don’t know how money works.

As I learned it way back in the dark ages, every dollar put into circulation reduces the value of every dollar that's already in circulation, which causes inflation. Inflation is also a handy way for government to pay down debt.

 

[fskimospy]

As I learned it way back in the dark ages, every dollar put into circulation reduces the value of every dollar that's already in circulation, which causes inflation. Inflation is also a handy way for government to pay down debt.

Is your idea that inflation is inherently bad?

 

[Greenman]

Is your idea that inflation is inherently bad?

Depends on how much inflation there is. A slow steady climb is manageable, and allowances for it are nearly universal. A fast climb is very disruptive and damages most folks on the left side of the income scale.

Like most things in life, some is good, to much is bad. I don't know where the tipping point is, and I'd prefer that we not find it the hard way.

 

[fskimospy]

Depends on how much inflation there is. A slow steady climb is manageable, and allowances for it are nearly universal. A fast climb is very disruptive and damages most folks on the left side of the income scale.

Like most things in life, some is good, to much is bad. I don't know where the tipping point is, and I'd prefer that we not find it the hard way.

So we agree that modest inflation is good?

Most economists feel the same way but they also think one of the main reasons modest inflation is good is that it’s best to err on the side of inflation because deflation is so catastrophic.

So this comes back to my question as to why deficit spending is bad. For example in 2009 had we not done deficit spending it would have led to catastrophe but I never see anyone celebrate that.

 

[thraashman]

to be fair their voters are the dumbest humans to have ever roamed the planet.

Awfully generous of you to call modern day Republican voters "humans".

 

[brycejones]

Depends on how much inflation there is. A slow steady climb is manageable, and allowances for it are nearly universal. A fast climb is very disruptive and damages most folks on the left side of the income scale.

Like most things in life, some is good, to much is bad. I don't know where the tipping point is, and I'd prefer that we not find it the hard way.

There is this really weird profession called "economist" that does look into questions like "how much inflation is too much?". They may have written a few papers on the subject and central banks like the Federal Reserve may have read some of them.

Basically the target is 2-3% inflation.

 

[ivwshane]

I prefer Dems not get mired in the cesspool of Republican Party politics.

 

[JD50]

Indeed.

Reagan, start: $78.9 billion, end: $152.6 billion
GHWB, start: $152.6 billion, end: $255 billion
Clinton, start: $255 billion, end: [$128 billion] surplus
GWB, start: [$128 billion] surplus, end: $1.41 trillion
Obama, start: $1.41 trillion, end: $584 billion
Trump, start: $584 billion, end: $2.7 trillion

I can't believe anyone still votes for republicans on grounds of "fiscal responsibility."

What a con.

@Greenman since the deficit seems pretty important to you, how do you feel about this?

 

[fskimospy]

@Greenman since the deficit seems pretty important to you, how do you feel about this?

Every time a democrat is president republicans pretend to care about deficits. What I don’t get is the stubborn insistence that the rest of us pretend to believe them.

We know they are lying. They know they are lying. Why bother?

 

[sportage]

People....you DO realize that come the next debit ceiling deadline that all hell will let loose in congress and across the country. And this chaos as never seen before will involve EVERYONE. The cuts that house republicans will demand, that McCarthy will demand will be unthinkable. The question will not be whether or not house republicans shut down the entire US government, the question will be for how long? How long can long be until everything comes tumbling down? Guess what, we'll certainly be finding out. And speaking of default, that's a given. Default will be the least of our problems.

 

[HomerJS]

As I learned it way back in the dark ages, every dollar put into circulation reduces the value of every dollar that's already in circulation, which causes inflation. Inflation is also a handy way for government to pay down debt.

Can you please post your concern for deficit spending by the Trump administration. I just want to know if deficits are really an issue for you. The M.O. of Republicans, deficits are only an issue when Democrats have the White House.