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On the topic of GTX590 and 3D Vision Surround

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RussianSensation said:
Wow, that's looks incredible. None of that bezel non-sense you get in Eyefinity. Plus 3D Vision. But this setup is pricey. :biggrin:
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Linus gets to have a lot of fun. That's an awesome setup, but $6000 on projectors and monopolizing the basement would get me sleeping in the backyard shed in no time 😀
 
Grooveriding said:
Linus gets to have a lot of fun. That's an awesome setup, but $6000 on projectors and monopolizing the basement would get me sleeping in the backyard shed in no time 😀
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It's not as expensive as you may imagine:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-223-_-Product


It's not only the lack of bezels, which eliminates that limitations and it also eliminates cross-talk in 3d stereo when compared to LCD PC displays at this time, which is also nice to know, too.
 
RussianSensation said:
Wow, that's looks incredible. None of that bezel non-sense you get in Eyefinity. Plus 3D Vision. But this setup is pricey. :biggrin:
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Um, you do realize that you can use Eyefinity with projectors too right? Bezels are an obstacle with both Eyefinity and Surround when going with traditional monitors. 😛
 
Red Storm said:
Um, you do realize that you can use Eyefinity with projectors too right? Bezels are an obstacle with both Eyefinity and Surround when going with traditional monitors. 😛
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Bezels are a pain. I cannot wait (excluding cost and wall space prohibitive projectors) until bezeless monitors come out. I'm not talking thin bezel. I'm talking NO bezel at all. I want the LCD crystals of one display to be able to physically touch the next. Or LED or whatever new tech comes out 8 minutes from now.
 
Keysplayr said:
Bezels are a pain. I cannot wait (excluding cost and wall space prohibitive projectors) until bezeless monitors come out. I'm not talking thin bezel. I'm talking NO bezel at all. I want the LCD crystals of one display to be able to physically touch the next. Or LED or whatever new tech comes out 8 minutes from now.
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You cannot have that, there needs to be circuitry at the egdes...it's the way LCD works.
 
busydude said:
Your brain will start to ignore if you give it some time to getting used to. Think of it as an A-pillar in your car.
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Well using A-Pillars good luck ignoring it. Blind sides be damned! Now I can picture some Nazi in the distance picking me off because I couldn't see him.
 
Lonbjerg said:
You cannot have that, there needs to be circuitry at the egdes...it's the way LCD works.
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Yeah, which is pretty much why I mentioned newer tech that will hopefully emerge to allow this. And by the way, nothing is impossible. There are ways to change how things are done to allow new possibilities. If you think there aren't teams of people working on this very thing right now as I'm typing this, think again. 😉
 
busydude said:
Your brain will start to ignore if you give it some time to getting used to. Think of it as an A-pillar in your car.
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No, your brain doesn't ignore it. It "tries" to compensate for it. It's also why we have bezel correction to more accurately portray an "A-pillar" separating the driver and passenger front windows from the windshield of a car.

Problem is, while I truly like bezel corrected games for more realism, an enemy can also "hide" in the A-pillars. Even for a sec and that's all it takes.

So, while you can get "used" to compensating for it, you always know those bezels are there. No way around it. These Samsung 2233RZ's I'm using have 7/8ths inch bezels on each side. That's 1 3/4 " of black bar between each screen. I am very tempted to purchase the thinnest bezel 24" or 27" 120Hz 3D ready monitors I can buy, but I'll still have at least 1" of bezel AFAIK. Won't be long before bezeless monitors are here. I'm patient. Well patient enough anyway.
 
Keysplayr said:
No, your brain doesn't ignore it. It "tries" to compensate for it. It's also why we have bezel correction to more accurately portray an "A-pillar" separating the driver and passenger front windows from the windshield of a car.

Problem is, while I truly like bezel corrected games for more realism, an enemy can also "hide" in the A-pillars. Even for a sec and that's all it takes.

So, while you can get "used" to compensating for it, you always know those bezels are there. No way around it. These Samsung 2233RZ's I'm using have 7/8ths inch bezels on each side. That's 1 3/4 " of black bar between each screen. I am very tempted to purchase the thinnest bezel 24" or 27" 120Hz 3D ready monitors I can buy, but I'll still have at least 1" of bezel AFAIK. Won't be long before bezeless monitors are here. I'm patient. Well patient enough anyway.
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While I wouldn't recommend this unless you're hardcore...

You can probably shave a few tenths of an inch from the bezels. Depending on how thick the plastic is of course.
 
Lonbjerg said:
You cannot have that, there needs to be circuitry at the egdes...it's the way LCD works.
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I say making a edgeless display is far easier than to make 3d images out of 2d. They can already make LED projectors so why is it hard to make it work like CRT? Granted it may not be flat, but it really isn't hard to make it. Price is a completely different story.
 
Keysplayr said:
No, your brain doesn't ignore it. It "tries" to compensate for it. It's also why we have bezel correction to more accurately portray an "A-pillar" separating the driver and passenger front windows from the windshield of a car.
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My brain doesn't do that. It doesn't ignore, and it doesn't compensate. The only compensation my eye does is the blind spot, which was there since i was ... developed.
 
railven said:
While I wouldn't recommend this unless you're hardcore...

You can probably shave a few tenths of an inch from the bezels. Depending on how thick the plastic is of course.
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I'm not that hardcore. I'd wait for something like this to emerge in the price range of a mere mortal man first.

http://www.seamlessdisplay.com/markets_home.htm

This is cool. However, there isn't any pricing until you register, but I'm going to guess that if the cost wasn't so prohibitive, they would have a price tag on it. As of August 2006, this setup was $15,995.00. <not a typo> Granted, this was ~five years ago, but dang.
 
Keysplayr said:
I'm not that hardcore. I'd wait for something like this to emerge in the price range of a mere mortal man first.

http://www.seamlessdisplay.com/markets_home.htm

This is cool. However, there isn't any pricing until you register, but I'm going to guess that if the cost wasn't so prohibitive, they would have a price tag on it. As of August 2006, this setup was $15,995.00. <not a typo> Granted, this was ~five years ago, but dang.
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I think the difference between these and what we (poor consumers want) is that they sell the screen already made. Not like you can buy a second one to add to the expansion (3x2) - you'd still get a freaking bezel!
 
Seero said:
I say making a edgeless display is far easier than to make 3d images out of 2d. They can already make LED projectors so why is it hard to make it work like CRT? Granted it may not be flat, but it really isn't hard to make it. Price is a completely different story.
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I think the difference here is the cabinet versus projector+hanging screen.

You can make a rear projected thing-a-majig, cept you need something to hold the screen in the front, so either you just hang a tarp a few feet away from the wall (giving your projector room to expand the image) or you hang the projector otherside of the screen.

In the end, these two technologies are completely different in implementation and not a good comparative.

3D Imaging isn't new and it is a simple optical illusion. I think creating a bezel free LCD is more of a break through in science than 3D.
 
Red Storm said:
Um, you do realize that you can use Eyefinity with projectors too right? Bezels are an obstacle with both Eyefinity and Surround when going with traditional monitors. 😛
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Yes, but AMD's 3D solution is a joke. If I was interested in 3D surround gaming, NV is the only sound choice.
 
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These posts were extricated from the thread Where are all the 590s???! as they were entirely off-topic but voluminous enough to warrant the creation of a thread dedicated to the side-topic (versus infracting all the contributors for perpetuating an existing thread-derail).

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RussianSensation said:
Yes, but AMD's 3D solution is a joke. If I was interested in 3D surround gaming, NV is the only sound choice.
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Does AMD's Eyefinity even support gaming in 3D over 3 panels?
- if not, it would make 3D Surround the only choice

i have a 5760x1080 3-panel 3D Vision setup. It'd be nicer without the bezels - however, Eyefinity/Surround/3D Vision Surround is still nicer than ANY one panel gaming when it works OK.
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Keysplayr said:
No, your brain doesn't ignore it. It "tries" to compensate for it. It's also why we have bezel correction to more accurately portray an "A-pillar" separating the driver and passenger front windows from the windshield of a car.

Problem is, while I truly like bezel corrected games for more realism, an enemy can also "hide" in the A-pillars. Even for a sec and that's all it takes.

So, while you can get "used" to compensating for it, you always know those bezels are there. No way around it. These Samsung 2233RZ's I'm using have 7/8ths inch bezels on each side. That's 1 3/4 " of black bar between each screen. I am very tempted to purchase the thinnest bezel 24" or 27" 120Hz 3D ready monitors I can buy, but I'll still have at least 1" of bezel AFAIK. Won't be long before bezeless monitors are here. I'm patient. Well patient enough anyway.
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I think the projectors are the way to go. Maybe I will recon my daughters' play room with that triple projector setup...
 
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