On Board vs Quadro GPU for gaming

[boozie]

I have an Nvidia Quadro FX 370 PCI-E card laying around and a PC that's 3+ years old, is there any reason the on-board GPU would be a better choice for games?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814133209

PixelPipelines
12

Memory Size
256MB

Memory Interface
64-bit

Memory Type
GDDR2

DirectX 10

OpenGL 2.0

RAMDAC
400MHz

I don't know what the on-board is other than the PC is over 3 years old, so there's definitely no argument about sandy bridge on-board GPU.

 

[Smartazz]

Good question. Both are going to be pretty abysmal at playing games, but it's going to be very difficult to tell without details on the integrated graphics. What kind of games do you have in mind? Almost anything modern is going to be pretty much unplayable.

 

[boozie]

Good question. Both are going to be pretty abysmal at playing games, but it's going to be very difficult to tell without details on the integrated graphics. What kind of games do you have in mind? Almost anything modern is going to be pretty much unplayable.

I understand the limitations. Older games run just fine on the on-board already as do plenty of non-demanding new games. Just need to figure out if the Quadro would actually help anything.

 

[RavenSEAL]

I understand the limitations. Older games run just fine on the on-board already as do plenty of non-demanding new games. Just need to figure out if the Quadro would actually help anything.

Quadro cards themself are far from being gaming cards to begin with.

 

[toyota]

I understand the limitations. Older games run just fine on the on-board already as do plenty of non-demanding new games. Just need to figure out if the Quadro would actually help anything.

how can we tell you when you do not even know what onboard video that you have?

 

[tweakboy]

The quadro will give issues because of the drivers. They dont make Quadro drivers to play games,, they make them for people to use PS Premiere AutoCAD ,, 3D modeling,,,

soo just stick with the onboard video... gl

 

[boozie]

Quadro cards themself are far from being gaming cards to begin with.

Right, like I said it's laying around I can take it or leave it.

how can we tell you when you do not even know what onboard video that you have?

I wasn't aware the spectrum of on-board performance varies that much in any given time period. Take the best non-enthusiast (in case it exists) on-board from 4 years ago.

 

[toyota]

Right, like I said it's laying around I can take it or leave it.




I wasn't aware the spectrum of on-board performance varies that much in any given time period. Take the best non-enthusiast (in case it exists) on-board from 4 years ago.

again why do we have to guess here when you can just look and see exactly what onboard graphics that you have? until you do that nobody can tell you if the quadro card will be better. really this thread is quite silly as neither are suited for modern gaming. it would be like Lance Armstrong deciding which tricycle is better for the Tour de France...

 

[boozie]

again why do we have to guess here when you can just look and see exactly what onboard graphics that you have? until you do that nobody can tell you if the quadro card will be better. really this thread is quite silly as neither are suited for modern gaming. it would be like Lance Armstrong deciding which tricycle is better for the Tour de France...

I understand I am coming here without 100% of the input, but I am providing 100% of the input I have. I'm not asking you personally for an answer. I am sure someone in these forums could answer it without needing a definite on-board name just based off of their computer knowledge and what I've provided.

Since you just won't let up:

The computer is not mine, the GPU is. I don't have access to the PC for at least two weeks, nor can I call someone to find it out for me. I would like to know if I should install the card or not at the time period I will have in two weeks because I don't know when I will have the next opportunity.

I never asked which will let me play BF3. I asked which will give better performance for gaming. The concept of my question isn't typical, but you seem to be really struggling with the idea that it can run anything worthwhile which is entirely relative.

 

[toyota]

well even if you ran into no driver issues on the quadro card, its only about as fast as an 8400gs. its not going to even come close to meeting minimum requirements for newer games.

 

[boozie]

. its not going to even come close to meeting minimum requirements for newer games.

100% erroneous and not even accurate to boot. Just. Stop. Not everyone needs AAA 2011 capability.

 

[toyota]

100% erroneous and not even accurate to boot. Just. Stop. Not everyone needs AAA 2011 capability.

how does your reply make any sense at all? of course not everyone needs to play 2011 games. that is why I specifically said for NEWER games it will not meet requirements and that is true.

 

[boozie]

But it's not. That's a terrible blanket statement and not accurate.

Plenty of NEWER games can work with 9.0c and 3.0 shader and that card beats both of those.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/111400/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/70400/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/98600/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/112100/

That's all games listed just on the steam sale. Pretty much any NEWER indie game will run.

 

[toyota]

But it's not. That's a terrible blanket statement and not accurate.

Plenty of NEWER games can work with 9.0c and 3.0 shader and that card beats both of those.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/111400/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/70400/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/98600/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/112100/

That's all games listed just on the steam sale. Pretty much any NEWER indie game will run.

obviously I was referring to the kind of games that you now say not everyone needs. even some indie games will need more gpu power than that quadro card has to play smoothly though.

perhaps in the future you should be less vague about everything and people can give you more accurate answers. we have no idea what your onboard video is and we have no idea of the exact games you want to play. all we can do is guess yet you still seem aggravated and perplexed that you are not getting a definitive answer on which gpu to use.

 

[boozie]

Lol how many times are you going to refine that statement?

The only obvious thing is you were talking about newer games. I can't infer anything else. The statement out of any context from your own words is false, show me where it's not.

The aggravation is only with you.

I posted all the specs I had available to me. You took issue with this and constantly try telling me it can't do things that I didn't ask about. You say it's silly to even ask the question, but this isn't your thread. Can you understand how your constant naysaying could be perceived negatively on my end? Was it really necessarily to edit your statement tell me that it can't run all indie games smoothly?

I even took the time to explain the exact situation at hand of why I don't have the on-board and you just continue to march forward with inadequacies.

I've gotten input from others which is what I came here for. This is going nowhere fast so I'm going stop.

Cheers.

 

[RussianSensation]

Plenty of NEWER games can work with 9.0c and 3.0 shader and that card beats both of those.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/111400/

Minimum requirements are Video Card: DirectX 9 compatible video card with Shader model 3.0. NVidia 7600, ATI X1600 or better. Onboard GPUs and that 12-pipeline quadro card you have is miles below Nvidia 7600.

That's all games listed just on the steam sale. Pretty much any NEWER indie game will run.

What about Trine 1 and Trine 2? No way.

I understand the limitations. Older games run just fine on the on-board already as do plenty of non-demanding new games. Just need to figure out if the Quadro would actually help anything.

Then if those games run fine already, why do you even care if the Quadro card will help you?

Imho, the Quadro card is useless for gaming unless you play 2d sidescrollers like Limbo, Braid or Super Meatboy, etc. It only has 12 pipelines and 64-bit memory interface. Also, on-board graphics are pretty much horrible as well.

I strongly suggest you check out both of these reviews to see how budget videocards stack up. You cannot play any popular 3D game released in the last 3-4 years with a low-end graphics cards unless you go all the way down to 640x480 LQ or something:

Review 1
Review 2

You should put yourself on the waitlist for this HD4870 for $55.

If you are on an extreme budget, then there is a $27 9600GSO, or try to find a GT240 or HD5570/5670 or something along those lines.

If you want people in this thread to tell you that onboard graphics or that Quadro card are sufficient for games, you aren't going to get those answers because we don't really play games at 800x600 with everything on low in DX9.

But, if you feel that your onboard graphics is sufficient enough, just test the games with and without the Quadro card and see if it helps. To us, that would be like comparing a snail to a turtle in a race. Test out both options for yourself and if you are happy with the performance, fine. But otherwise, spend $50 and get yourself a decent budget card so you can play other games, not just 2d indie titles.