On board Sound Card (Realtek ALC889A codec ) VS Audigy2zS

Mir96TA

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Which is better ? How ? Why ?
OS going to be Win 7 and XP Dual Boot)
Speakers are Logitech 5.1 X 530
Content to be play
HD DvD
Blu Ray
Hi Def Media
Hi-Def TV off OTA
Games Flight Sim C&C 3 and in Futture Diablo 3
You Tube Stuff.
The reason I was using Audigy Zs because of 1394 and I was told it takes loads off CPU and have a better seperation for Audio channel.
 

Zap

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Which is better ? How ? Why ?
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The reason I was using Audigy Zs because of 1394 and I was told it takes loads off CPU and have a better seperation for Audio channel.

If you need IEEE-1394 (Firewire) then use the Audigy.

CPU utilization is a non-issue these days with the amount of performance CPUs have, unless you were still stuck with a single core processor.

With the current onboard HD audio I don't think channel separation is an issue either.

About the only "issues" that onboard audio have are:

- Sometimes it is faulty in some manner. This can affect normal sound cards like the Audigy as well. For instance, my current onboard audio's microphone input doesn't work right, plus it keeps thinking I unplugged/replugged the speakers (the control panel applet pops up asking what I plugged in). This is just a case of it being faulty on my particular motherboard, just as if it were a PCI sound card that did the same thing. With a PCI sound card, you can get another one. With onboard sound, you can disable it and plug in a PCI sound card.

- Some systems pick up "sounds" (usually buzzing/static, can increase when HDD seeks or moving mouse around). This can be bad circuit layout on the motherboard, or it could be something totally unrelated. For instance, I know of one occasion where a SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium had this buzzing sound. Turned out that the front panel audio ports wiring was picking up the system sounds due to being routed underneath the motherboard. While the Titanium has front panel audio outputs, most PCI/PCIe sound cards do not, and I think many people attribute that kind of "crappy" sound to onboard audio when sometimes it isn't the fault of the audio solution being onboard.

- Some people like the way recent SoundBlaster cards sound. This is purely personal choice. For instance, I like very neutral sound in car stereos, but many people like to crank up the bass AND the treble, because the brighter sound sounds better to their ears. I don't know how much this has to do with actual Creative Labs hardware, because there are motherboards that have typical onboard audio, but have "Creative Labs X-Fi" sound processing done in software. One example is my latest DFI Lanparty MI motherboard. Onboard audio is a typical Realtek HD audio, but it has an X-Fi badge on it.

Firewire port aside (if you need it) for people who don't already have a sound card and are asking if they should buy one, I always tell them to try the onboard sound first. It is essentially free, and if it sounds good to you then no need to buy something else.
 

Mir96TA

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Thanks Zap
MB I have is GA Ma790GP-UD4H which has 1394 onboard with Black AMD IIX2 550. ( Can be unlock to 4 core)
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Other MB is P35C DS3R with E8400 but lacking on board 1394, which I can get byt:hmm:
As long I do not feel sound quality degration I am cool with it
 

Zap

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As long I do not feel sound quality degration I am cool with it

You'll have to rely on your ears and your speakers/headphones. The higher quality speakers/headphones, the more you will notice imperfections. I'm not familiar with the Logitech X 530 so I can't comment on those. Also, because sound card manufacturers may equalize the sound differently, you just have to listen and decide for yourself.
 

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Thanks Zap
MB I have is GA Ma790GP-UD4H which has 1394 onboard with Black AMD IIX2 550. ( Can be unlock to 4 core)........

I have the same set up. I'd like to try and unlock the 550. How'd you do it? Thanks!
 

Mir96TA

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I have the same set up. I'd like to try and unlock the 550. How'd you do it? Thanks!

Well that has nothing to do with sound cards
It has to do with South bridge 750. It has ACC with Bios option to Hybrid mode with Unlockable core mode.
Now not all B2 X550 can be unlock.
 

Mir96TA

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Tcsenter;
I have to re track what I posted with New R240 Driver for Win7 about Realtek
That is why I posted the tread
I think Lot of Things has change since Win7 came along
 

heyheybooboo

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I have no issues with the Realtek ALC889A but I pass PCM to my receiver via the analog outs. I think with the Logitech x530 speakers the onboard sound will work well for you.


I have the same set up. I'd like to try and unlock the 550. How'd you do it? Thanks!

Not sure about that specific motherboard but with my Gigabyte 785 enter MIT and select 'Advanced Clock Calibration' (ACC).

Under that sub-menu I set EC Firmware to 'Hybrid' and ACC to 'Auto'




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Mir96TA

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Not sure about that specific motherboard but with my Gigabyte 785 enter MIT and select 'Advanced Clock Calibration' (ACC).

Under that sub-menu I set EC Firmware to 'Hybrid' and ACC to 'Auto'




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If he have latest Bios
He have an option to turn on all cores or independently
 

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I do wish integrated sound was really tested somewhere (I did see one VERY interesting review from 2005 or so going over EVERYTHING boy that was great -_- of coarse there's a LOT more now to go over...). I mean I don't see any other soundcard out there really, do you?? with video cards taking over our motherboards integrated sound will be/ has become a lesser evil we are forced to withstand. Where are the reviews to show us what we're buying??

I like RTL's latest codec but they've been REALLY bad in the passed. Normally I look for AD audio, but their latest codec is rather wonky still it's great if you can find it. That thing Intel has isn't worth spit afaik. But again there are no reviews just facts on paper.
 

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I use an Audigy 2zs with Windows 7 x64 and have experienced no problems. I don't see why, if you already have a decent sound card and it works fine, you would use onboard sound instead.