On a slightly more happy note: Grandmother helps prevent mass shooting

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Lifer
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Every handgun is semi-automatic. Hell, every single gun today is semi-automatic

What the hell isn't semi-automatic?

Semi-automatic means 1 trigger pull = 1 bullet.

Automatic = hold down trigger = constant shots. Automatics have been illegal and outlawed for everything but our military. No one standard citizen can buy an automatic gun of any type.
Never heard of a revolver?
 

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No, it's not. https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/revolver-vs-semi-auto-whats-the-difference/
And what happens when a revolver has used up it's shots? You have to reload it, not a quick button release and slam a fresh mag, but eject the spent cartridges and reload one at a time until full. This is true unless the person has speed-loaders and those are still slower than mags.

Just a difference of opinion on what constitutes semi-autoamtic. As I stated above, I use it as a term of 1 trigger pull = 1 bullet shot (with the automatic ability to go to the next bullet and continue firing without reloading after every single bullet).

So basically you're saying to outlaw cartridges?
 

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A lot of those people don't know or think there's anything wrong with them. I don't know how you solve that problem other than have people around them speak up when they see warning signs. An FBI expert was on some news show and said many of them appear completely normal and function just fine until they snap. How can anyone stop that? I agree with your post though.

We can do it line Switzerland, cuz I hear they're Uber capitalist and do t have the same problem as we do. They just extensively screen applicants, including psych evals. Fail the eval, no gun, it's that simple. The 2A, being so non specific, leaves this approach completely doable. It just requires honesty from 2A supporters. Should be easy enough. I'm a solid 2A support, and I'm also pragmatic. I support extensive vetting of those who want to own guns.
 

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Just a difference of opinion on what constitutes semi-autoamtic. As I stated above, I use it as a term of 1 trigger pull = 1 bullet shot.

So basically you're saying to outlaw cartridges?

Muskets are semi automatic as well then. I support gun ownership of muskets as semi automatic weapons.
 

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Lifer
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Just a difference of opinion on what constitutes semi-autoamtic. As I stated above, I use it as a term of 1 trigger pull = 1 bullet shot.

So basically you're saying to outlaw cartridges?
Nope, outlaw all semi-automatics, time is of the essence when someone is trying to commit mass murder and the time it takes for them to reload give police the extra time to take them out. Exceptions would be for military and police.
 
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Muskets are semi automatic as well then. I support gun ownership of muskets as semi automatic weapons.

Yeah yeah, I clarified with an edit... basically

Semi: Fires 1 shot per trigger pull

Auto: Automatically proceeds to the next bullet for firing

Hence, Semi-automatic.
 

Lanyap

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I wish our health care system wasn't such complete dogshit that people with mental health issue could have gone to any doctor they wish without worrying about the astronomically life crippling costs so they won't even get to the stage of possibly considering purchasing a firearm to plan these kind of attacks.



While your statement may generally be true, do we know if the last three shooters had any type of health insurance or if they used it to get help before hand? Did their parent(s) know they had problems and tried to send them to a mental health provider? Young people can be on their parents health insurance up to 26. We tend to complain about mental health care inadequacies related to mass shootings but can we correlate them?