On a buget,which processor will take me into the early part of 2016 to play games on.

[Rare Ware]

Hi guys.

Im thinking about getting a new pc for playing games on,using a low budget to purchase.Which processor would take me into the early part of 2016 to be able to run all the new games.Im not bothered about playing the games in ultra high settings,just enough so i can run the games,so they are playable without being laggy,Also assuming that i have a budgeted GPU that will do the same.Building a PC i also not an option for me.

These 3 are the only choice i have, So Which of these processor's will do the job?

AMD A10 7800

I5 Series

I7 Series .

Most grateful for any help.
Thanks.

 

[NTMBK]

What is your budget? What GPU do you have in mind?

 

[Phynaz]

Any of those will last a year for gaming. The Intel chips will give better performance and last much longer than a year.

 

[Blitzvogel]

Value wise, the A10 already has a decent IGP that could somewhat substitute for a graphics card. However it's IGP is already obsolete from a gaming perspective and needs very fast (and expensive) RAM to get the most performance from it, something on the order of 2133 MHz or faster.

What is your budget? Instead of the A10, you could get an Athlon 860K for around $100 and put the savings into a good dedicated graphics card. The CPU won't get as much mileage as an decent i5 (which is twice as capable) and unless AMD releases something really good for socket FM2+ in the future (new Zen based CPU will probably need a new socket), it's somewhat of a dead end for CPU upgrades.

I'd personally get the i5, but they start close to $200 depending on where you get it from. An i5-4430 ($185 on Newegg) has enough computing to power to last the generation. You'll have to get a dGPU unless you want to actually rely on the worse-than-A10 HD4600 IGP. So the i5 has a higher by-in price but has more than double the performance and therefore much more longevity.

i7s usually are the same as i5's but with hyperthreading. For gaming purposes, you can skip the HT and save yourself another $100.

 

[escrow4]

i5. AMD is a dead end choice. Games are using the threads of an i7 though. An i5 would be the minimum. Dying Light say requires and recommends a SNB i5 and Haswell i5 respectively.

 

[Rare Ware]

First of all, you guys are awesome.Thanks for all your replies.

trouble is that, i have to order from a catalogue.I was gonna get a ps4,but ive been playing games on and off using my pc and now ive really got into it.so i figured ill get a pc but i knew it would be a bit heavy on the old pocket.

My budget would be around 600,but like i said,im ordering from a catalogue so my choice is are limited.Also ill post the gpu chioces i have to pick from

Thanks .

 

[Phynaz]

Which "catalog"?

$600 for a complete gaming system is kinda tight. What parts do you already have. You have an os already?

Also, you may want to ask a mod to move this to general hardware.

 

[Arachnotronic]

My budget would be around 600,but like i said,im ordering from a catalogue so my choice is are limited.Also ill post the gpu chioces i have to pick from

Thanks .

Yeah, the GPU choice is important too. Better to go with an i5 with a much better GPU than an i7 with a really slow one.

 

[Rare Ware]

OK,so these are the choices i have.
Zoostorm £700Processor: Intel© Quad Core™ i5-4440 (6M Cache, 3.1GHz)
•Operating System: Windows 8.1
•Hard Disk: 1TB
•Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz
•DVDRW
•Wi-Fi Enabled
•Graphics : NVidia GTX740 1Gb
•Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN £700
.......................................................................
Zoostorm £639Intel® Core™ i5-4460 Processor (6m Cache, 3.20Ghz)
Windows 8.1
Storage: 2TB HDD
Memory: 16Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
DVDRW
Wi-Fi Enabled
Intel® HD Graphics
Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN
1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks)
1 year Onsite Warranty
1 x PS2 (Keyboard/ Mouse) port
4 x USB 2.0 ports/ 2 x USB 3.0 ports
1 x PCIe x16 port/ 2 x PCIe x1 ports
........................................................................
Zoostorm £519

• Intel® Core™ i5-4460 Processor (6m Cache, 3.40Ghz)
• Windows 8.1
• Storage: 1TB HDD
• Memory: 8Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
• DVDRW
• Wi-Fi Enabled
• Intel® HD Graphics
• Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN
• 1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks)
• 1 year Onsite Warranty
• 2 x PS2 (Keyboard/ Mouse) ports
• 4 x USB 2.0 ports/ 2 x USB 3.0 ports
• 1 x PCIe x16 port/ 2 x PCIe x1 port
• ...........................................................................
• Zoostorm £289
  • AMD A10 5700 APU
  • Windows 8.1 with Bing
  • Storage: 1Tb HDD
  • Memory: 6Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
  • DVDRW
  • Wi-Fi enabled
  • Graphics: AMD Radeon HD7660D
  • Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN
  • H 393, W 90, D 330 mm
  • Interfaces: 1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks); 2x PS2 (keyboard/mouse) ports; 6x USB 2.0 ports; 1x PCIe x16 port/1x PCIe x1 port, 1x PCI port; 1x DVI-D port; 1x VGA port; 1x RJ-45 port
• .............................................................................................................

Which is best for cheapest?

 

[R0H1T]

So you're not assembling this on your own, I mean pick the parts separately?
In which case none of your listed configs are gonna last, not even a full year for gaming.

 

[Rare Ware]

Which "catalog"?

$600 for a complete gaming system is kinda tight. What parts do you already have. You have an os already?

Also, you may want to ask a mod to move this to general hardware.

catalog Would be littlewoods.I have no PC parts really,its all 2007 stuff.

Sorry if ive posted in the wrong place,i didnt intend to upset anyone.im crap at forums as you have probably ascertained by now.

thanks for your advice.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Zoostorm £700Processor: Intel© Quad Core™ i5-4440 (6M Cache, 3.1GHz)
•Operating System: Windows 8.1
•Hard Disk: 1TB
•Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz
•DVDRW
•Wi-Fi Enabled
•Graphics : NVidia GTX740 1Gb
•Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN £700

This is your best bet for prebuilt, but even its GPU is kinda weaksauce...

Intel® Core™ i5-4460 Processor (6m Cache, 3.40Ghz)
Windows 8.1
Storage: 1TB HDD
Memory: 8Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
DVDRW
Wi-Fi Enabled
Intel® HD Graphics
Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN
1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks)
1 year Onsite Warranty
2 x PS2 (Keyboard/ Mouse) ports
4 x USB 2.0 ports/ 2 x USB 3.0 ports
1 x PCIe x16 port/ 2 x PCIe x1 port

Buy this one and get a proper GPU to stick in there. Let us know how much you'd be willing to spend on a GPU and the very knowledgeable folks here will give you some suggestions.

 

[flexy]

Man for 700GBP which is almost €900 I would build a "last gen" Haswell system with a GTX 970, used of course. I think this is overpriced.

 

[Rare Ware]

So you're not assembling this on your own, I mean pick the parts separately?
In which case none of your listed configs are gonna last, not even a full year for gaming.

My only choice at this time is to buy from a catalog.What would be the set back? GPU? RAM? if so would any of these setups be fit to upgrade the GPU and RAM in the future Without getting a motherboard and more powerful PSU

 

[R0H1T]

My only choice at this time is to buy from a catalog.What would be the set back? GPU? RAM? if so would any of these setups be fit to upgrade the GPU and RAM in the future Without getting a motherboard and more powerful PSU

GPU definitely, as Arachnotronic said if you're limited to a choice between the given prebuilt systems get £519 one & stick a separate GPU, for gaming, in it :thumbsup:

I think it's hard to recommend if you'd need another PSU atm without having full info about the ones shipping in these systems, as for mobo probably not as most systems, even prebuilt/low end, have a GPU expansion slot. You will however need to make an informed decision, for the GPU, based on the PSU the system;s shipping with & the space you've left in the case .

 

[Phynaz]

GPU definitely, as Arachnotronic said if you're limited to a choice between the given prebuilt systems get £519 one & stick a separate GPU, for gaming, in it :thumbsup:

Same advice here. Put an AMD 280 or 280x in there and you'll be good for years.

 

[Rare Ware]

This is your best bet for prebuilt, but even its GPU is kinda weaksauce...



Buy this one and get a proper GPU to stick in there. Let us know how much you'd be willing to spend on a GPU and the very knowledgeable folks here will give you some suggestions.

I would like to spend as little as possible on a GPU in the future.just a GPU that will run new games without it being laggy.

Thanks.

 

[Rare Ware]

GPU definitely, as Arachnotronic said if you're limited to a choice between the given prebuilt systems get £519 one & stick a separate GPU, for gaming, in it :thumbsup:

I think it's hard to recommend if you'd need another PSU atm without having full info about the ones shipping in these systems, as for mobo probably not as most systems, even prebuilt/low end, have a GPU expansion slot. You will however need to make an informed decision, for the GPU, based on the PSU the system;s shipping with & the space you've left in the case .

Ok,Thats a wrap. ill get the £519 rig.and see what my options are for the GPU in the future.

All you guys are great.everyone has been more than helpful to me and i sincerely wish all the best to everyone that has used there time to help me.

 

[frozentundra123456]

OK,so these are the choices i have.
Zoostorm £700Processor: Intel© Quad Core™ i5-4440 (6M Cache, 3.1GHz)
•Operating System: Windows 8.1
•Hard Disk: 1TB
•Memory: 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz
•DVDRW
•Wi-Fi Enabled
•Graphics : NVidia GTX740 1Gb
•Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN £700
.......................................................................
Zoostorm £639Intel® Core™ i5-4460 Processor (6m Cache, 3.20Ghz)
Windows 8.1
Storage: 2TB HDD
Memory: 16Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
DVDRW
Wi-Fi Enabled
Intel® HD Graphics
Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN
1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks)
1 year Onsite Warranty
1 x PS2 (Keyboard/ Mouse) port
4 x USB 2.0 ports/ 2 x USB 3.0 ports
1 x PCIe x16 port/ 2 x PCIe x1 ports
........................................................................
Zoostorm £519

• Intel® Core™ i5-4460 Processor (6m Cache, 3.40Ghz)
• Windows 8.1
• Storage: 1TB HDD
• Memory: 8Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
• DVDRW
• Wi-Fi Enabled
• Intel® HD Graphics
• Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN
• 1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks)
• 1 year Onsite Warranty
• 2 x PS2 (Keyboard/ Mouse) ports
• 4 x USB 2.0 ports/ 2 x USB 3.0 ports
• 1 x PCIe x16 port/ 2 x PCIe x1 port
• ...........................................................................
• Zoostorm £289
  • AMD A10 5700 APU
  • Windows 8.1 with Bing
  • Storage: 1Tb HDD
  • Memory: 6Gb DDR3 1600Mhz
  • DVDRW
  • Wi-Fi enabled
  • Graphics: AMD Radeon HD7660D
  • Network Interface: 10/100/1000 LAN
  • H 393, W 90, D 330 mm
  • Interfaces: 1 set 5.1 channel Audio jacks (3 jacks); 2x PS2 (keyboard/mouse) ports; 6x USB 2.0 ports; 1x PCIe x16 port/1x PCIe x1 port, 1x PCI port; 1x DVI-D port; 1x VGA port; 1x RJ-45 port
• .............................................................................................................

Which is best for cheapest?

As others have said you have to consider both the cpu and gpu. The best bet would be number 3 and use the money saved to get decent gpu. Any of those pre-builts will probably have a weak power supply, so the best bet for an upgrade is the GTX750Ti, which should be available for around 140.00, so should fit into the budget if you buy option 3.

The next best option is number 1, but the gpu is has only 1gb video memory, and will struggle with the latest games.

I have a system with an older i5 slightly slower than the ones you are looking at, and a HD7770, which is slightly slower than the GTX750, and I had expected it to last several more years at lower settings. However, new games are demanding a lot of video memory, and the HD7770 definitely is limiting, but the games I have tried, including Dragon Age Inquisition are playable.

You would probably do better to build the system yourself, but I understand your reluctance, especially if you dont have anyone available in person to give you advice. However, getting the cheaper i5 and installing a video card is extremely simple.

Edit: looks like you already decided while I was posting. I agree with the choice. When you get the system, look at the specs for the power supply(they should be on a sticker on the side of the unit) and repost, and we can give good advice for a gpu. I expect you will be limited to the 750Ti, but if the power supply is up to it (not likely in a prebuilt), there are other choices that give somewhat better performance for the same price.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

An i5 isn't the minimum, that's crazy talk. An i5 is the best value though. An i3 is probably the minimum for a nice gaming system.

 

[SteveGrabowski]

Dying Light say requires and recommends a SNB i5 and Haswell i5 respectively.

And Shadow of Mordor recommended an i7-3570 even though a Sandy Bridge i3 kills on it.

 

[Rare Ware]

As others have said you have to consider both the cpu and gpu. The best bet would be number 3 and use the money saved to get decent gpu. Any of those pre-builts will probably have a weak power supply, so the best bet for an upgrade is the GTX750Ti, which should be available for around 140.00, so should fit into the budget if you buy option 3.

The next best option is number 1, but the gpu is has only 1gb video memory, and will struggle with the latest games.

I have a system with an older i5 slightly slower than the ones you are looking at, and a HD7770, which is slightly slower than the GTX750, and I had expected it to last several more years at lower settings. However, new games are demanding a lot of video memory, and the HD7770 definitely is limiting, but the games I have tried, including Dragon Age Inquisition are playable.

You would probably do better to build the system yourself, but I understand your reluctance, especially if you dont have anyone available in person to give you advice. However, getting the cheaper i5 and installing a video card is extremely simple.

Edit: looks like you already decided while I was posting. I agree with the choice. When you get the system, look at the specs for the power supply(they should be on a sticker on the side of the unit) and repost, and we can give good advice for a gpu. I expect you will be limited to the 750Ti, but if the power supply is up to it (not likely in a prebuilt), there are other choices that give somewhat better performance for the same price.

i will follow your advice and i will no doubt be back to ask about a GPU upgrade.Thanks again ,mate

 

[Phynaz]

An i5 isn't the minimum, that's crazy talk. An i5 is the best value though. An i3 is probably the minimum for a nice gaming system.

Not anymore. Too many games require quad cores now.

 

[Denithor]

Just a quick note, the cheapest i5 option is a great choice but be aware you're going to have to put in a discrete GPU immediately because the "Intel HD Graphics" is crap for gaming. You should also consider getting a small (128GB) SSD to use as your boot drive & for game installs, SSD changes the entire feel of a computer (so much faster & smoother at everything). Fortunately this is one of those incremental upgrades that you can do a few months down the road.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Ok,Thats a wrap. ill get the £519 rig.and see what my options are for the GPU in the future.

All you guys are great.everyone has been more than helpful to me and i sincerely wish all the best to everyone that has used there time to help me.

Glad we could help! :thumbsup: