OMGZ! THE X800, X800XT pwnz Nvidia

[TechJunkie95242]

I think ATI just kicked Nvidia in the crotch and Nvidia's down for the count.

I know what card I'll be using for Half-Life 2 if it ever comes out

 

[DesolationWilliams]

Originally posted by: TechJunkie95242
I think ATI just kicked Nvidia in the crotch and Nvidia's down for the count.

I know what card I'll be using for Half-Life 2 if it ever comes out

the 6800u DID beat the x800 in some benchmarks. but the x800 still owns. check out the hardocp review they seem to do the x800 justice.

 

[Mik3y]

well, theres always the 6800 ultra extreme

 

[Bucksnort]

Originally posted by: TechJunkie95242
I think ATI just kicked Nvidia in the crotch and Nvidia's down for the count.

I know what card I'll be using for Half-Life 2 if it ever comes out

Thanks for your intelligent post. Did this require a new thread seeing there are infitismal related thread numbers already?

 

[Schadenfroh]

since when did it pwn it? i read that they are about the same, nvidia wins some, ati wins some, they are the same and hopefully it will come down to what i have been waiting for PRICE WAR

 

[Aquaman]

THey are pretty even......... but I would choose ati for the single slot single molex solution

Cheers,
Aquaman

 

[Tab]

It doesn't really completely pwn it, however it does show it strengths with games that use Pixel Shaders and the such.... Which would be good for future games.

 

[LeChuck59]

Don't forget that the 6800GT is a single molex, single slot solution. And according to the Firingsquad preview, it can be oc'ed to be faster than a stock Ultra Extreme which means it'll beat the X800 Pro and compete nicely with the X800 XT.

You can check out FS's oc benches here...
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_6800_ultra_extreme/page22.asp

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: LeChuck59
Don't forget that the 6800GT is a single molex, single slot solution. And according to the Firingsquad preview, it can be oc'ed to be faster than a stock Ultra Extreme which means it'll beat the X800 Pro and compete nicely with the X800 XT.

You can check out FS's oc benches here...
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_6800_ultra_extreme/page22.asp

to be fair, i would wait to see how well an OCed X800 or X800XT performs

 

[bluewall21]

Its ownage is not a complete win, although it emerged the victor ( Yeah, ATI)

 

[apoppin]

there pretty even with their own strength and weakneses . . .

i am expecting at least 10-20% more performanc from fully mature 6800 drivers . . . much less from ati since the core is very similar to their old one.

For me it's gonna depend on PRICE and the software package that comes with the retail GPU - absolutely NO hL-2 coupon for me.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: LeChuck59
Don't forget that the 6800GT is a single molex, single slot solution. And according to the Firingsquad preview, it can be oc'ed to be faster than a stock Ultra Extreme which means it'll beat the X800 Pro and compete nicely with the X800 XT.

You can check out FS's oc benches here...
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/geforce_6800_ultra_extreme/page22.asp

to be fair, i would wait to see how well an OCed X800 or X800XT performs

Hexus overclocked the X800XT and only got the core up to 535 from 520. It appears that ATi has clocked these cards as high as they possibly could. It reminds me of the 8500; I could only overclock mine to 290 from 275.

As for the 6800U I'm sure you could find an overclocking review of it. I think I heard somewhere of 450mhz or so. With high-end cards like these, it's usually pretty tough to overclock them, but we'll see once the retail cards ship.

I'm more interested in the soft-modding scene. I have a feeling it's only a matter of time, despite rumours to the contrary.

 

[Lyfer]

Performance wise they are dead even. No one won. But ATI won for ergonomics.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

I'm more interested in the soft-modding scene. I have a feeling it's only a matter of time, despite rumours to the contrary.

I agree. I've heard rumors of ATI cutting their pipelines, but I highly doubt that due to the extra cost/risk involved. Since there are now more pipelines per card (meaning a lot more raw pipelines, meaning more broken ones), there will probably be enough broken ones to go around for the x800 pros. So modding chances will be low.

 

[ugh]

Are there any reviews that doesn't use Athlon64 but a "normal" AXP to perform the benches?

 

[TechJunkie95242]

Originally posted by: Bucksnort

Originally posted by: TechJunkie95242
I think ATI just kicked Nvidia in the crotch and Nvidia's down for the count.

I know what card I'll be using for Half-Life 2 if it ever comes out

Thanks for your intelligent post. Did this require a new thread seeing there are infitismal related thread numbers already?

I have another intelligent post for you. If you didn't like the thread why did you bother reading it, or ohhh wait... responding in the first place? These aren't the political forums, take your negativity elsewhere.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: apoppin
there pretty even with their own strength and weakneses . . .

i am expecting at least 10-20% more performanc from fully mature 6800 drivers . . . much less from ati since the core is very similar to their old one.

For me it's gonna depend on PRICE and the software package that comes with the retail GPU - absolutely NO hL-2 coupon for me.

Are you also assuming ATI makes NO improvement with their drivers? What about OverDrive?

 

[mobobuff]

Originally posted by: TechJunkie95242

Originally posted by: Bucksnort

Originally posted by: TechJunkie95242
I think ATI just kicked Nvidia in the crotch and Nvidia's down for the count.

I know what card I'll be using for Half-Life 2 if it ever comes out

Thanks for your intelligent post. Did this require a new thread seeing there are infitismal related thread numbers already?

I have another intelligent post for you. If you didn't like the thread why did you bother reading it, or ohhh wait... responding in the first place? This isn't the political forums, take your negativity elsewhere.

He responded because he had just as much of a right to as you had to make this thread. "Take your lame fanboyishness elsewhere".

 

[Dulanic]

The only place Nvidia got owned was Far Cry.... and it looks like they are working on that. Overall ATi and Nvidia both did a EXCELLENT job and made fantastic cards! It is so good to see them both doing well. I think Nvidia will win overall in price/performance with the GT especially with the reports of it being able to be OCed to Ultra Extreme levels, and reports are the Raedons dont OC well. Also nice to see Nvidia working on problem areas like FarCry...

Our driver team has been busy with stability, bugs and performance tweaks as we get closer to the ship dates for our OEM partners and add-in card partners. Areas of interest compared to 60.72 driver include:

5% boost in Aquamark
5% boost in X2 performance
5% boost in Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness performance
10% boost to Call of Duty performance
50% improvements in Far Cry performance

 

[Pete84]

Originally posted by: Dulanic
The only place Nvidia got owned was Far Cry.... and it looks like they are working on that. Overall ATi and Nvidia both did a EXCELLENT job and made fantastic cards! It is so good to see them both doing well. I think Nvidia will win overall in price/performance with the GT especially with the reports of it being able to be OCed to Ultra Extreme levels, and reports are the Raedons dont OC well. Also nice to see Nvidia working on problem areas like FarCry...

Our driver team has been busy with stability, bugs and performance tweaks as we get closer to the ship dates for our OEM partners and add-in card partners. Areas of interest compared to 60.72 driver include:

5% boost in Aquamark
5% boost in X2 performance
5% boost in Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness performance
10% boost to Call of Duty performance
50% improvements in Far Cry performance

WOW, those are some nice driver improvements! Go nVidia driver team! This is the reason why I sold my 9800Pro, pocketed $200 after getting a 'replacement' Albatron 4600. Great for any game I play, and now I have more money to upgrade when PCI-E comes!

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Dulanic
The only place Nvidia got owned was Far Cry.... and it looks like they are working on that. Overall ATi and Nvidia both did a EXCELLENT job and made fantastic cards! It is so good to see them both doing well. I think Nvidia will win overall in price/performance with the GT especially with the reports of it being able to be OCed to Ultra Extreme levels, and reports are the Raedons dont OC well. Also nice to see Nvidia working on problem areas like FarCry...

Our driver team has been busy with stability, bugs and performance tweaks as we get closer to the ship dates for our OEM partners and add-in card partners. Areas of interest compared to 60.72 driver include:

5% boost in Aquamark
5% boost in X2 performance
5% boost in Tomb Raider: Angel of Darkness performance
10% boost to Call of Duty performance
50% improvements in Far Cry performance

from the hothardware review:

X800Pro OC: "45MHz upside in the core and an 150MHz gain (75MHz X2) in the memory speeds for the Radeon X800 Pro".

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Originally posted by: apoppin
there pretty even with their own strength and weakneses . . .

i am expecting at least 10-20% more performanc from fully mature 6800 drivers . . . much less from ati since the core is very similar to their old one.

For me it's gonna depend on PRICE and the software package that comes with the retail GPU - absolutely NO hL-2 coupon for me.

Are you also assuming ATI makes NO improvement with their drivers? What about OverDrive?

Re read my post again (above^) [in bold].
(it's UNedited except for the bold)

 

[edmundoab]

overall ATi are still doing great.
Lets see how well Nvidia can improve the drivers..
then again, NVidia has been caught cheating so many times with new drivers..
LOL, we'll see...

 

[SgtZulu]

TechJunkie95242
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Lot of credibility there n00b

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
since when did it pwn it? i read that they are about the same, nvidia wins some, ati wins some, they are the same and hopefully it will come down to what i have been waiting for PRICE WAR

Now you're talking!!!!