OMGWTFBBQ Rudy Giulliani: ‘I Never Said There Was No Collusion’

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thilanliyan

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Why the party sticks behind him is a mystery to me, especially if his support is eroding according to the above stats.

EDIT: Actually, if his approval amongst repubs is still 83%, well there's the answer. Party is doing exactly what their constituents are asking for.
 
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I have this fantasy scenario of how it all ends- Trump goes to Moscow. While he's there, Mueller issues a report so damning that he he seeks asylum rather than coming home. Trumpsters finally (finally!) get to see how badly they've been deceived.

It would be glorious, but I'm not counting on it happening.

The thing is, I think Putin would actually extradite him back. Once Turmp abandons any ability to actually do anything for him, he'd have no usefulness so Putin wouldn't need or want him. And sending him back to the US would let him go "see, I'm not in cahoots with this jackass" while it would ratchet up chaos in America to the max as there would be people willing to die to defend Turmp.

Even Turmp straight up admitting it won't get them to give a shit about his traitorous actions. Based on some of the Turmpers, I guarantee that some of them will make sure that the only way they'll be dissuaded is by force.

I figure that would describe a Pence presidency entirely. At least we'd have this dangerous raging asshole out of the White House.

Based on what I've seen, if Turmp goes down, Pence will as well as there seemed to be some strong evidence that Pence was aware of or at some of the meetings that are sinking some of these other assholes and that he's lied about knowing anything. Unless Pence worked a deal - where he'd funnel as much info to Mueller as possible and was the one that gave them an inside angle on a lot of this other stuff (but the other idiots either assuming its the other turncoat motherfuckers that snitched on them, or they simply forgot he was there since he likes to kinda disappear into the background so maybe he's been a "fly on the wall" the whole time?).

Why the party sticks behind him is a mystery to me, especially if his support is eroding according to the above stats.

EDIT: Actually, if his approval amongst repubs is still 83%, well there's the answer. Party is doing exactly what their constituents are asking for.

Because they're trying to cover their own asses. More and more evidence is revealing that many GOP members were also getting money and other benefits from Russia. They don't give a shit about Turmp, its all about trying to save themselves now.
 
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SMOGZINN

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Based on what I've seen, if Turmp goes down, Pence will as well as there seemed to be some strong evidence that Pence was aware of or at some of the meetings that are sinking some of these other assholes and that he's lied about knowing anything.

There is no possible way that a Republican Senate is going to impeach both the President and the Vice President leaving a Democrat Speaker of the House to take over. Not even if they had video evidence that Pence was actually Putin in a wig.

If it looks like both of them are culpable we are going to hear a whole lot of 'For the good of the nation' arguments on why Congress won't investigate it and Mitch will sacrifice himself on that alter if needed. Party before Nation.
 
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ewdotson

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There is no possible way that a Republican Senate is going to impeach both the President and the Vice President leaving a Democrat Speaker of the House to take over. Not even if they had video evidence that Pence was actually Putin in a wig.

If it looks like both of them are culpable we are going to hear a whole lot of 'For the good of the nation' arguments on why Congress won't investigate it and Mitch will sacrifice himself on that alter if needed. Party before Nation.
I think there's a plausible (if unlikely) scenario where both Trump and Pence are impeached or forced to step down, but I would expect Senate Republicans to insist on doing it sequentially and giving Pence an opportunity to name a new VP before stepping down. They could sell that if they had to. I do agree there's exactly zero percent chance of President Pelosi becoming a thing.
 

Jhhnn

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I think there's a plausible (if unlikely) scenario where both Trump and Pence are impeached or forced to step down, but I would expect Senate Republicans to insist on doing it sequentially and giving Pence an opportunity to name a new VP before stepping down. They could sell that if they had to. I do agree there's exactly zero percent chance of President Pelosi becoming a thing.

Short of simultaneous assassination of Trump & Pence you'd probably be right.
 

HomerJS

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I think there's a plausible (if unlikely) scenario where both Trump and Pence are impeached or forced to step down, but I would expect Senate Republicans to insist on doing it sequentially and giving Pence an opportunity to name a new VP before stepping down. They could sell that if they had to. I do agree there's exactly zero percent chance of President Pelosi becoming a thing.
Only if the new VP agrees no pardons
 

SMOGZINN

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I think there's a plausible (if unlikely) scenario where both Trump and Pence are impeached or forced to step down, but I would expect Senate Republicans to insist on doing it sequentially and giving Pence an opportunity to name a new VP before stepping down. They could sell that if they had to. I do agree there's exactly zero percent chance of President Pelosi becoming a thing.

I wonder if we do start impeachment proceedings on Trump if it is going to take a full 2 years to complete. Is it is going to be the slowest impeachment in history? I guess that matters if they decide if it would do more damage to the Party to draw it out and keep it in the news but keep Trump in the White House or to get it over fast and move on with President Pence. If it looks like they are going to have to do a Pence impeachment after Trump I bet they draw it out. If they have to impeach Trump they won't expect to win in 2020 anyway, so might as well.
 

VRAMdemon

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If you hired Giuliani to defend you from a jaywalking ticket, you'd probably end up on death row. In Rudy's case "collusion" rhymes with "delusion"
 

IronWing

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I'm beginning to think I'm the only one left who isn't working for foreign mobsters.