OMG, NM voting machines switch Bush vote to Kerry

[CPA]

It seems to go both ways.

Appending this thread.

Interesting site. It shows there were a lot of errors, but nothing egregious. Intimidation on both sides seemed to be a problem and many small complaints.

 

[cKGunslinger]

If this is going to keep making an appearance, we need another "voter fraud" sticky.

 

[smashp]

for future ref




isnt calling someone out in a thread title against the rules?


Breaking the rules isnt moral, but maybe you didnt know.


(Just making sure he remebers those moral values.)

 

[AFB]

Exactly. This sh!t needs to be fixed.

 

[assemblage]

Thanks, good info. Checked my state and found my wife's vote for Bush probably didn't go through. Straight party votes didn't register a vote for president

 

[Tylanner]

Originally posted by: assemblage
Thanks, good info. Checked my state and found my wife's vote for Bush probably didn't go through. Straight party votes didn't register a vote for president

Thats fvcked up.

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: assemblage
Thanks, good info. Checked my state and found my wife's vote for Bush probably didn't go through. Straight party votes didn't register a vote for president

not right, i will agree but ironic punishment for closemindedness.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: assemblage
Thanks, good info. Checked my state and found my wife's vote for Bush probably didn't go through. Straight party votes didn't register a vote for president

Haa that is a pointless law not that it has anything to do with the piece of over priced junk voting machines.

 

[conjur]

From the source article linked in the OP

New Mexico Republicans complained at Bush-Cheney headquarters in Albuquerque that Sandoval County e-voting machines switched their Bush votes to Kerry. One Republican candidate for judge found he couldn't vote for himself at first.

In neighboring Bernalillo County, home to a third of the swing state's voters, at least two Kerry voters said touchscreen machines wrongly chalked them up for the president.

"I voted for Kerry and a check mark for Bush appeared," said Michael Cadigan, a lawyer and president of the Albuquerque City Council. "I was extremely careful to accurately touch the button for my choice for president."

In Bexar and Travis counties, Texas Democrats who wanted to vote a straight ticket found two different kinds of machines -- made by Omaha-based Election Systems & Software and Austin-based Hart InterCivic -- were trigger-happy to vote for Bush.

Even more problems for Kerry voters than for Bush voters. Chalk it up to poor design and probably poorly-calibrated touchscreens.


But, nice of you to start a call-out thread, CPA. The mods generally look upon those with disdain.

 

[Rob9874]

Originally posted by: conjur

Even more problems for Kerry voters than for Bush voters.

Leave it to conjur to spin it Kerry's way.

 

[Rainsford]

As an engineer, I'm concerned that the people we have making these voting machines still can't do it right. How hard is it?

 

[AFB]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: assemblage
Thanks, good info. Checked my state and found my wife's vote for Bush probably didn't go through. Straight party votes didn't register a vote for president

not right, i will agree but ironic punishment for closemindedness.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: conjur

Even more problems for Kerry voters than for Bush voters.

Leave it to conjur to spin it Kerry's way.

Leave it to Rob9874 to ignore the facts of an article.


Here, again, is that article:

New Mexico Republicans complained at Bush-Cheney headquarters in Albuquerque that Sandoval County e-voting machines switched their Bush votes to Kerry. One Republican candidate for judge found he couldn't vote for himself at first.

In neighboring Bernalillo County, home to a third of the swing state's voters, at least two Kerry voters said touchscreen machines wrongly chalked them up for the president.

"I voted for Kerry and a check mark for Bush appeared," said Michael Cadigan, a lawyer and president of the Albuquerque City Council. "I was extremely careful to accurately touch the button for my choice for president."

In Bexar and Travis counties, Texas Democrats who wanted to vote a straight ticket found two different kinds of machines -- made by Omaha-based Election Systems & Software and Austin-based Hart InterCivic -- were trigger-happy to vote for Bush.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: conjur
From the source article linked in the OP

New Mexico Republicans complained at Bush-Cheney headquarters in Albuquerque that Sandoval County e-voting machines switched their Bush votes to Kerry. One Republican candidate for judge found he couldn't vote for himself at first.

In neighboring Bernalillo County, home to a third of the swing state's voters, at least two Kerry voters said touchscreen machines wrongly chalked them up for the president.

"I voted for Kerry and a check mark for Bush appeared," said Michael Cadigan, a lawyer and president of the Albuquerque City Council. "I was extremely careful to accurately touch the button for my choice for president."

In Bexar and Travis counties, Texas Democrats who wanted to vote a straight ticket found two different kinds of machines -- made by Omaha-based Election Systems & Software and Austin-based Hart InterCivic -- were trigger-happy to vote for Bush.

Even more problems for Kerry voters than for Bush voters. Chalk it up to poor design and probably poorly-calibrated touchscreens.


But, nice of you to start a call-out thread, CPA. The mods generally look upon those with disdain.

Explain how this is a call-out thread. If anything, I am appending to your original thread.

 

[CaptnKirk]

If 'Straight Party' did not tabulate a vote for the Presidential candidate,
this could really affect how thwe entire counting system functioned.

My wife insisted on voting a 'Straight' Ticket. There were a mix of Independants
and Libertarians in our district as well as the plain vanilla and strawberry.
I voted according to each candidates record and past performance.

I saw no candidates on the 'Gay' ticket, by the way.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: conjur
From the source article linked in the OP

New Mexico Republicans complained at Bush-Cheney headquarters in Albuquerque that Sandoval County e-voting machines switched their Bush votes to Kerry. One Republican candidate for judge found he couldn't vote for himself at first.

In neighboring Bernalillo County, home to a third of the swing state's voters, at least two Kerry voters said touchscreen machines wrongly chalked them up for the president.

"I voted for Kerry and a check mark for Bush appeared," said Michael Cadigan, a lawyer and president of the Albuquerque City Council. "I was extremely careful to accurately touch the button for my choice for president."

In Bexar and Travis counties, Texas Democrats who wanted to vote a straight ticket found two different kinds of machines -- made by Omaha-based Election Systems & Software and Austin-based Hart InterCivic -- were trigger-happy to vote for Bush.

Even more problems for Kerry voters than for Bush voters. Chalk it up to poor design and probably poorly-calibrated touchscreens.


But, nice of you to start a call-out thread, CPA. The mods generally look upon those with disdain.

Explain how this is a call-out thread. If anything, I am appending to your original thread.

Uhh...my name in the Topic Summary ring any bells?

Why didn't you "append" this to the original thread, then?



BTW, your avoidance of the rest of the article pointing out 3 cases of Kerry votes going to Bush is duly noted.

 

[assemblage]

I didn't vote straight party as my wife did. I don't trust those old people down there at the polling place. I picked them all out. They tried to trick me on the liquor law,but I graduated from college and was in a fraternity so it didn't work. The only thing that would have made it eaiser than having Republican next to their name would have been a little picture and/or a family picture.

 

[CPA]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: conjur
From the source article linked in the OP

New Mexico Republicans complained at Bush-Cheney headquarters in Albuquerque that Sandoval County e-voting machines switched their Bush votes to Kerry. One Republican candidate for judge found he couldn't vote for himself at first.

In neighboring Bernalillo County, home to a third of the swing state's voters, at least two Kerry voters said touchscreen machines wrongly chalked them up for the president.

"I voted for Kerry and a check mark for Bush appeared," said Michael Cadigan, a lawyer and president of the Albuquerque City Council. "I was extremely careful to accurately touch the button for my choice for president."

In Bexar and Travis counties, Texas Democrats who wanted to vote a straight ticket found two different kinds of machines -- made by Omaha-based Election Systems & Software and Austin-based Hart InterCivic -- were trigger-happy to vote for Bush.

Even more problems for Kerry voters than for Bush voters. Chalk it up to poor design and probably poorly-calibrated touchscreens.


But, nice of you to start a call-out thread, CPA. The mods generally look upon those with disdain.

Explain how this is a call-out thread. If anything, I am appending to your original thread.

Uhh...my name in the Topic Summary ring any bells?

Why didn't you "append" this to the original thread, then?



BTW, your avoidance of the rest of the article pointing out 3 cases of Kerry votes going to Bush is duly noted.

If you consider that a callout, I apologize and it has been changed.

You can note it all you want, the point is the problem goes both ways, something you didn't reference in your thread.

 

[chess9]

The states appear to have rushed to implement non-chad producing forms of voting and fixed one problem while causing others.

As another poster said in one of Conjur's posts, we need national standards. Let all the voting machine companies compete against a national standard. This needs Congress' attention ASAP.

I have zero faith in Florida's government to adequately test and implement a voting methodology.

-Robert

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: CPA

If you consider that a callout, I apologize and it has been changed.

:beer:

You can note it all you want, the point is the problem goes both ways, something you didn't reference in your thread.

Because my thread was about a rather major error that caused nearly 4,000 votes to be registered for Bush that shouldn't have. That's pretty severe. I have acknowledged up here in the past that fraud is on both sides. I just found that one story worthy of its own thread.

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
As an engineer, I'm concerned that the people we have making these voting machines still can't do it right. How hard is it?

Ya.....totally agree!!!

 

[chess9]

assemblage:

Hey! I was one of those old people. But, I know what you mean. Poll workers are not rocket scientists and most of them are very old.

I met a really cool WWII vet though at my polling place. He was shot during the invasion of Iwo Jima. He's an 80 year old Marine. Big guy too, and very nice. He was supporting Kerry because "Bush was a p*ssy." Bwuahahahahaha! When he said it about 5 people, including a very prim looking black lady all cracked up. I must say working the polls is a hoot.

-Robert

 

[lordtyranus]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: conjur

Even more problems for Kerry voters than for Bush voters.

Leave it to conjur to spin it Kerry's way.

Leave it to Rob9874 to ignore the facts of an article.


Here, again, is that article:

New Mexico Republicans complained at Bush-Cheney headquarters in Albuquerque that Sandoval County e-voting machines switched their Bush votes to Kerry. One Republican candidate for judge found he couldn't vote for himself at first.

In neighboring Bernalillo County, home to a third of the swing state's voters, at least two Kerry voters said touchscreen machines wrongly chalked them up for the president.

"I voted for Kerry and a check mark for Bush appeared," said Michael Cadigan, a lawyer and president of the Albuquerque City Council. "I was extremely careful to accurately touch the button for my choice for president."

In Bexar and Travis counties, Texas Democrats who wanted to vote a straight ticket found two different kinds of machines -- made by Omaha-based Election Systems & Software and Austin-based Hart InterCivic -- were trigger-happy to vote for Bush.

If its only 2 people, conjur, I'd blame it on the stupidity of the voter before errors by the machine.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: lordtyranus

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Rob9874

Originally posted by: conjur

Even more problems for Kerry voters than for Bush voters.

Leave it to conjur to spin it Kerry's way.

Leave it to Rob9874 to ignore the facts of an article.


Here, again, is that article:

New Mexico Republicans complained at Bush-Cheney headquarters in Albuquerque that Sandoval County e-voting machines switched their Bush votes to Kerry. One Republican candidate for judge found he couldn't vote for himself at first.

In neighboring Bernalillo County, home to a third of the swing state's voters, at least two Kerry voters said touchscreen machines wrongly chalked them up for the president.

"I voted for Kerry and a check mark for Bush appeared," said Michael Cadigan, a lawyer and president of the Albuquerque City Council. "I was extremely careful to accurately touch the button for my choice for president."

In Bexar and Travis counties, Texas Democrats who wanted to vote a straight ticket found two different kinds of machines -- made by Omaha-based Election Systems & Software and Austin-based Hart InterCivic -- were trigger-happy to vote for Bush.

If its only 2 people, conjur, I'd blame it on the stupidity of the voter before errors by the machine.

So would I. But, it's not just 2 people now, is it?

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: CPA

If you consider that a callout, I apologize and it has been changed.

:beer:

You can note it all you want, the point is the problem goes both ways, something you didn't reference in your thread.

Because my thread was about a rather major error that caused nearly 4,000 votes to be registered for Bush that shouldn't have. That's pretty severe. I have acknowledged up here in the past that fraud is on both sides. I just found that one story worthy of its own thread.

look through some of the other states...vote machines in florida counting backwards...others not working everywhere...wow!

you know this isn't new either...probably been going on for decades...just no blogs to talk about it.

if someone came up with a good system...they would be rich.