OMG I hate PayPal

[Jmman]

I am not sure why the OP sent a $600 package with only delivery confirmation. It clearly states to be protected by Seller Protection that any package over $250 needs to have a signature, and last time I checked Priority mail does not. For something that expensive use Fedex with a signature required, and you get better tracking and insurance anyway. Just as an FYI, I have done thousands of online transactions and just by being a little wary I have never been scammed. I am sure it will happen someday though.....


***I didn't see the signature confirmation part, so my bad***

 

[kranky]

Originally posted by: AnyMal
Scammers will never get their money if you can provide proof of delivery. It's not that complicated to protect your butt, only ship to confirmed addresses, require signature on delivery, it's that simple.

It's actually not that simple. There have been cases where Paypal - in violation of their own rules - allowed a chargeback when the buyer complained the item was not as described. And I know of two other ways that sellers can get charged back even though they followed all the rules.

It comes down to the fact that scammers have gotten increasingly familiar with ways to exploit Paypal, and since Paypal just takes the money back from the sellers, they don't have a lot of reasons to care.

 

[Trikat]

I am not sure, but I think go prevent fraud the buyer must be confirmed through PayPal and if it is over $250 a signature confirmation.
Also the package must have some type of tracking/delivery confirmation.

Funny how the seller pays all the fees and gets screwed over a lot of the times. Even if they are very reputable and verified to be reliable. :/

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: AnyMal
Scammers will never get their money if you can provide proof of delivery. It's not that complicated to protect your butt, only ship to confirmed addresses, require signature on delivery, it's that simple.

It's actually not that simple. There have been cases where Paypal - in violation of their own rules - allowed a chargeback when the buyer complained the item was not as described. And I know of two other ways that sellers can get charged back even though they followed all the rules.

It comes down to the fact that scammers have gotten increasingly familiar with ways to exploit Paypal, and since Paypal just takes the money back from the sellers, they don't have a lot of reasons to care.

There have also been cases were sellers sells a notebook and sends phonebooks instead and paypal does nothing to help the buyer. Paypal protects no one.