Olmert tells Europe to stop preaching to Israel

[IrateLeaf]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
From Doboji-

Greater Israel? You think the Israelis want "Greater Israel" are you out of your mind? Have you ever met an Israeli?

In 1919, Ben Gurion proposed that the northern border of the Jewish mandate in Palestine should be the Litani river- check your map, that is portion of Lebanon is where the current invasion is taking place...

They took most of the pre-1967 state of Israel at gunpoint in 1948, the Golan and the Shebaa farms the same way, and are pushing the westbank pals into a modern day version of the Warsaw ghetto in pursuit of a policy of Lebensraum and apartheid...

If you want to know what they're doing, then look at what they're doing, nevermind what they're saying... With the exception of returning the Sinai to Egypt, they've traded security for territory every chance they could... and giving back the Sinai was no big deal, it's one of the most barren bits of stinkin' desert this side of Mars...

And, yeh, I've met a few Israelis over the years, some of whom would simply gas the Pals if they thought they could get away with it... the only thing they learned from the Holocaust is to do unto others before they do unto you, and to exploit a massive American guilt trip over those events...

I'll keep asking that same question nobody wants to answer- how would we feel about the Israelis if they weren't Jewish?

Anybody who thinks we'd feel the same has been rather effectively propagandized, imho... and ruthlessly exploited, as well...

Amazing example of applied logic.....
You ask questions then you propose to answer them assuming everybody jfalls into line with your answer.
of course nobody wants to answer your question, Your quwation has nothing to do with anything. A waste of time answering the question.

 

[IrateLeaf]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: piasabird
Assuming the lebanese are innocent people caught in the middle is a mistatke. It is estimated that at least half of the Lebanese are Hezbolah supporters. The Lebanese are complicit with what is going on in Lebanon. They and the UN did nothing to disarm or get rid of the Hezbolah, because they hate Isreal in favory of the Muslim Terrorists.

If you make your bed, be prepared to die in it. Is there anything such as an innocent civilian? Koffee Ahnan was responsible for disarming and securing the southern Lebanese border. Koffee Ahnan is responsible for their deaths.

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Well piasbird,

Lets say that 50% of the Lebanese people support Hezbollah---which means 50% do not.
Can you now tell me Israel is just killing civilians that support Hezbollah and sparing those who do not.----and the clear answer is that they are killing everyone indiscriminately---including children just a few days old.---which is called collective punishment---and a war crime. But if you want a more accurate guess---25% of the Lebanese were somewhat favorable to Hezbollah---but still did nothing to aid them----now 75 % of the Lebanese support Hezbollah and will probably actively aid them in the future. When the same thing could be said of the larger arab world----its can only be called counter productive on Israel's part.

But even granting Israel's right to self defense----the attacks are coming from only a narrow strip in Southern Lebanon.----------and Israel may have a right to take action to remove the threat in this area. When they stray one inch North of the launching zones
they lose that right--------nor am I splitting hairs---we are not talking inches---or mere miles-----we are talking hundreds of miles.---all of the city of Beruit is not even close to
being a threat to Israel.

And if we want to talk about who created Hezbollah---Israel did in its brutal occupation of Lebanon---from 1982 to 2000. And the Lebanese government is still a basket case---and Israel now expects it to police Hezbollah?------and now thanks to Israel---hezbollah will have even greater freedom to move about Lebanon free from any Lebanese governmental policing.---------and Israel is really engaing in some long term strategic thinking???????---------------wrong----------get a clue-------it backfired big time on Israel.

In coming months I think even the Israelie people will also come to that more sober realization------and hopefully shed some its self-delusions made posssible by a superior military-----and start looking at its own sins also.

Because no amounts of wrong moves by both sides will add up to a right---it only drives mutual hatreds higher.

Only time will tell. even then we won`t know!

 

[IrateLeaf]

Originally posted by: rchiu

Originally posted by: IrateLeaf

rchiu---I see you are still posting BS trying to justify Israeli war crime with something totally different eh?

This is as simple as I can put it, hope even you can understand.

UK -> Germany -> Declared War
Israel -> Hezbollah -> Declared War
Israel -> Lebanon -> Did not Declare War
Israel killing Lebanese civilian -> War Crime

Get it?

UK -> Germany -> Declared War
Israel -> Hezbollah -> Declared War
lebanese Goverment - hezbollah -> niether care about the lebanese or palestinian people
Hezbollah -> Lebanon -> use lebanese women and children as human sheilds.
Israel killing going after hezbollah Fighters cowering behind women and children -> priceless!!!!


Its okay to call what you don`t understand terrorism.
Yet I do understand the Arabs and hezbollah. What i don`t understand is why they feel the need to cower behind women and children?
Quite possibly another kodak moment!

heh, I see you got nothing to say about comparing Isreal to UK and you have to bring up other topic to justify Israel war crime.

And your post pretty much speak for itself, how Israel killing women and children are priceless and how it is kodak moment. There is really no need for me to give more evidence on how disguesting you people are and how you people completely disregard Arab's life. Your post already says enough.

So tell me what Israel should have done to combat hezbollahs use of women and children to cower behind?
Ahhh... let me guess.
Disarm 100% militarily and organize Love fests all over the world..lol

 

[MowSow]

There is no need to criticize Israel anymore, they have just proved themselves to be human-race?s ultimate enemy with a brutality unseen since Hitler attacked Czechoslovakia.