Older Boys Really Are a Bad Influence

Amused

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Older Boys Really Are a Bad Influence, Study Suggests
By Maggie Fox, Reuters

WASHINGTON (Aug. 19) - Parents who forbid their daughters to date older boys may be on the right track. A study published on Thursday finds that teenage girls who associate with older boys are more likely to smoke, drink and use drugs.

The survey of 1,000 teens found that friends do influence behavior, or at least reflect behavior, The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University said.

"We found a tight connection between teen sexual behavior and dating and teen risk of smoking, drinking and using illegal drugs," said CASA chairman Joseph Califano, a former U.S. secretary of health, education and welfare.

The survey, which CASA conducts every year, found that the more time a teen spends with a boyfriend or girlfriend, and the more sexually active friends a teen has, the more likely the child will smoke, drink or use illegal drugs.

And girls who date boys two or more years older are much more likely to abuse drugs or alcohol.

Adolescents who spent 25 or more hours a week with a romantic interest were 2.5 times more likely to drink than teens who spent 10 hours or less with a boyfriend or girlfriend.

The teens who spent more time romancing were five times more likely to get drunk -- 35 percent of them said they had been drunk compared to 7 percent of the teens who spent less time dating.

The study found that 58 percent of girls who had boyfriends two years or more older drank alcohol, compared to 25 percent of the girls who dated boys their own age or not at all.

Fifty percent of the girls who went for older boys or men smoked marijuana, compared to 8 percent of the other girls, and 65 percent of these girls who preferred to date someone older than themselves smoked, compared to 14 percent girls who stuck to younger boys.

The survey found that 45 percent of the teens said they had been to parties where alcohol was available, 30 percent had been to at least one party where marijuana was available and nine percent where cocaine or Ecstasy was available.

But teens welcome their parents' guidance on these issues, the survey found.

Asked in the telephone survey what they wished they could "honestly discuss with parents at dinner," 42 percent said dating and 30 percent said substance abuse. The survey had a margin of error of three points.

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=healthNews&storyID=6020597
 

I believe it, because at that young age, young men who prey on younger females are often not the most upstanding characters.
 

gigapet

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damn these articles are gonna put me outta business!


so as i was saying....where do the high school chicks hang out around here?







j/k I'm actually going to forward this onto my mom as my younger sisters starts freshmen year in HS in a week!
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: SampSon
They needed to spend money to STUDY this?

Yeah! Studying the reasons why teens go bad is such a waste of time and money!

:roll:
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SampSon
They needed to spend money to STUDY this?

Yeah! Studying the reasons why teens go bad is such a waste of time and money!

:roll:

Amused,

I thought this was all common knowledge? I was reading your post thinking "well no sh!t, sherlock"
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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Sure, I believe there's a connection. But I ask this: are younger girls who hang out with older guys more likely to use drugs, or are girls who are likely to use drugs more prone to hanging out with older guys? The statistics show a relationship, not a cause.

Girls who are likely to smoke/drink/abuse drugs are naturally going to hang out with guys who are older, because that's where they find enviroments conducive to that kind of thing (no parents around, easy access to illegal substances, etc.)

Then again, I'm a 19 year old male, so maybe I'm just defensive about the whole thing. :) In the end, I know if I had a daughter, I'd probably interrogate her boyfriends too before I let her leave the house.
 

NakaNaka

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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Sure, I believe there's a connection. But I ask this: are younger girls who hang out with older guys more likely to use drugs, or are girls who are likely to use drugs more prone to hanging out with older guys? The statistics show a relationship, not a cause.

You are bringing back crazy memories of AP Stats and Dr. F, who was my amazing teacher. He'd probably have a field day with a study like this.

So, basically, I think you are totally correct.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SampSon
They needed to spend money to STUDY this?

Yeah! Studying the reasons why teens go bad is such a waste of time and money!

:roll:
Amused,

I thought this was all common knowledge? I was reading your post thinking "well no sh!t, sherlock"

Lot's of things are 'common knowledge'.

Most of those things are incorrect.
 

Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SampSon
They needed to spend money to STUDY this?

Yeah! Studying the reasons why teens go bad is such a waste of time and money!

:roll:
Uh hello, common sense here. Your kneejerk reaction is amusing. (bad pun intended)

The survey, which CASA conducts every year, found that the more time a teen spends with a boyfriend or girlfriend, and the more sexually active friends a teen has, the more likely the child will smoke, drink or use illegal drugs.
Wait wait, what they are saying is as a teen gets closer to real life, they will participate in it more?
Astounding!
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Sure, I believe there's a connection. But I ask this: are younger girls who hang out with older guys more likely to use drugs, or are girls who are likely to use drugs more prone to hanging out with older guys? The statistics show a relationship, not a cause.

Girls who are likely to smoke/drink/abuse drugs are naturally going to hang out with guys who are older, because that's where they find enviroments conducive to that kind of thing (no parents around, easy access to illegal substances, etc.)

So, in this case, it's a bad sign either way. I don't see how that changes anything. :)
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Sure, I believe there's a connection. But I ask this: are younger girls who hang out with older guys more likely to use drugs, or are girls who are likely to use drugs more prone to hanging out with older guys? The statistics show a relationship, not a cause.

Girls who are likely to smoke/drink/abuse drugs are naturally going to hang out with guys who are older, because that's where they find enviroments conducive to that kind of thing (no parents around, easy access to illegal substances, etc.)

So, in this case, it's a bad sign either way. I don't see how that changes anything. :)

I believe in going to the root of problems.

The study implies that locking your teenage daughter away from all males (especially older ones) will keep her from ever trying drugs. I'm saying that's not true; the decision is made long before the girl ever sees her first joint, through the way she was raised and the beliefs/values she holds.

Bottom line: Parents cant get out of raising their kids.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SampSon
They needed to spend money to STUDY this?

Yeah! Studying the reasons why teens go bad is such a waste of time and money!

:roll:
Amused,

I thought this was all common knowledge? I was reading your post thinking "well no sh!t, sherlock"

Lot's of things are 'common knowledge'.

Most of those things are incorrect.

So the study is flawed in some way?

Makes perfect sense to me, hence why I thought it was common knowledge.

Teenagers (especially boys) are at an "experiment" stage where drinking, drugs, sex, etc are common place. If a girl is along for the ride then she will be exposed to it and experiment as well.

:confused:
 

SoylentGreen

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Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SampSon
They needed to spend money to STUDY this?

Yeah! Studying the reasons why teens go bad is such a waste of time and money!

:roll:

Another great contribution by a supposed "elite" member.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: SoylentGreen
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SampSon
They needed to spend money to STUDY this?

Yeah! Studying the reasons why teens go bad is such a waste of time and money!

:roll:

Another great contribution by a supposed "elite" member.

Oh wow, I didn't know elites were not allowed to use sarcasm.

I'll be sure to remember this for future reference.
 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: spidey07
So the study is flawed in some way?

Makes perfect sense to me, hence why I thought it was common knowledge.

Teenagers (especially boys) are at an "experiment" stage where drinking, drugs, sex, etc are common place. If a girl is along for the ride then she will be exposed to it and experiment as well.

:confused:

The study is almost certainly flawed in 'some way' because all studies conducted by people generally have some shortcomings. That isn't what I was saying though.

It's common knowledge that "birds of a feather flock together" and also that "opposites attract". While both are supportable anecdotally, these clearly can't be both true in a general sense! Either one of the statements has predictive power, or the other, or neither, or they each do but only under certain circumstances.

Common knowledge and common sense are riddled with errors. It's why every type of science begins at the lowest level they possibly can; to minimize the possiblilty of making mistakes because they 'assumed' somehting based on 'common sense'.
 

Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: SampSon
They needed to spend money to STUDY this?

Yeah! Studying the reasons why teens go bad is such a waste of time and money!

:roll:
Amused,

I thought this was all common knowledge? I was reading your post thinking "well no sh!t, sherlock"

Lot's of things are 'common knowledge'.

Most of those things are incorrect.

So the study is flawed in some way?

Makes perfect sense to me, hence why I thought it was common knowledge.

Teenagers (especially boys) are at an "experiment" stage where drinking, drugs, sex, etc are common place. If a girl is along for the ride then she will be exposed to it and experiment as well.

:confused:
Right, but why are boys any different than girls? Why do the "bad girls" just get written off and the males take the bad rap?
Girls are just as prone to "self-destructive" behavior as boys are. I know in my teenage youth I knew PLENTY of girls who were just as, if not more "corrputed" than any bad boy.

Amused: I'm not saying the study as no point, but they take a very small data set (1,000 kids) and then draw these conclusions from them. Then they post them on a major news site and tout them as factual.
The reality is that the whole article is blatant common sense and I was alluding to the ridiculous way in which our society handles parenting.

I can see the next article now...
"Studys shows that locking your children in their room 18 hours a day greatly reduces the risk anything bad will happen"
 

Fenixgoon

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guess im an exception, hehe :p im a year older than my g/f and neither of us drink, do drugs, smoke, have sex, etc.
6 happy months and counting:thumbsup:
 

SoylentGreen

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Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
guess im an exception, hehe :p im a year older than my g/f and neither of us drink, do drugs, smoke, have sex, etc.
6 happy months and counting:thumbsup:

A year older. :roll:
 

Fenixgoon

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Originally posted by: SoylentGreen
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
guess im an exception, hehe :p im a year older than my g/f and neither of us drink, do drugs, smoke, have sex, etc.
6 happy months and counting:thumbsup:

A year older. :roll:


the article simply stated "older" :p