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NoCreativity

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: NoCreativity
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
95% of african americans voted for Obama, so I dont know why people keep saying race didnt play a part in this election.

95% of African Americans vote Democratic. I"m not saying there isn't some sort of racial bias, but truth is, it had more to do with his party affiliation than his skin color.

From what I could find, Clinton had 84% of the AA vote- Gore had 90%. Where are you getting '95% vote Democratic', aside from yesterday?

I apologize, I didn't research the specific numbers before I posted.

Typically AA vote goes democratic. Also, I'm sure there are many on the fence voters who were simply sick of Bush/republicans and wanted to go the other way. I know a lot of people who normally vote republican who voted for Obama for this reason.

My point was that party played a bigger role in the number than race.

 

Agentbolt

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Obama winning doesn't mean racism is over.

Obama Winning WILL hopefully cause at least a few of the retarded "racism is a pervasive force that is everywhere and is responsible for everything" black folks and guilty white people to shut the hell up for 5 minutes.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: JLee
Originally posted by: NoCreativity
Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
95% of african americans voted for Obama, so I dont know why people keep saying race didnt play a part in this election.

95% of African Americans vote Democratic. I"m not saying there isn't some sort of racial bias, but truth is, it had more to do with his party affiliation than his skin color.

From what I could find, Clinton had 84% of the AA vote- Gore had 90%. Where are you getting '95% vote Democratic', aside from yesterday?

Population of the US - about 300 million
Black population - about 40 million

Obama's lead in the popular vote - 7.19 million
Total number of votes counted - 118.69 million (just under 40% overall turnout, INCLUDING minors, felons, and others who can't vote)

I'll take the low number of 84% as the number of blacks who "would have" voted Democrat if Obama was white--that's certainly an underestimate after Bush's response to Katrina. With 95% voting Democrat this year, that's 1.76 million additional Democrat votes "just based on race"--a sizeable number, but not nearly enough to tip the election. Even with 100% voter turnout among blacks (including minors and felons) we have only 4.4 million additional Democrat votes, which is still not enough.

It wasn't about race, people!
Originally posted by: Agentbolt
Obama winning doesn't mean racism is over.

Obama Winning WILL hopefully cause at least a few of the retarded "racism is a pervasive force that is everywhere and is responsible for everything" black folks and guilty white people to shut the hell up for 5 minutes.

/nods
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Xylitol
i'm just glad uneducated, poor black people won't blame racism anymore for their stupidity in not getting a free education

Poor, uneducated black people will quickly learn that they don't have much more in common with a wealthy black man that went to Harvard than they had with a wealthy white man who went to Yale.

At least they'll "feel" better.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: KeypoX
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: KeypoX
Originally posted by: DomS
seriously.....imagine living through the riots and police dogs and separate but equal....and now there's a black president.

Half black raised by white people and abandoned by his black father. But who cares about the details...

and viewed as black by the majority of people, Racist people don't give 2 shits if you're 90% white, if you look black you're black. Do you think the fire hoses and police dogs were less forgiving because a person was 1/2 white? Obama would have gotten his ass chomped and hosed the fuck down just like every other black person.

well then 100% of people are in trouble because we are all black (African)...

If your skin is Black you're in trouble, Mariah Carey could skate by, Obama really couldn't. I live in a county with a high population of cracker ass cracker racist redneck fools. I will bet my house not a single one of them voted for Obama because he's half white.

And I would bet anything Obama doesn't relate well to white people, how could be? He's Black, regardless of if his Black father walked out on him or not, he grew up Black not white.

lol you're fucking pathetic.
 

Mxylplyx

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Originally posted by: ultra laser
Why must the racist USA continue to perpetuate the anachronistic one-drop-rule?

WTF?? What rule, where is it written in the books?
If anything, if you have a hint of black blood you can still be classified as a minority, with all the benefits such as preference in admissions, hiring, sympathy from the media even if you're not poor, inner-city. So keep crying over nothing.

Yeah gotta love Affirmative Action! Blacks are SO LUCKY to only get the opportunity at 2 or 3 out of every 100 positions. I know as a White man who is all but promised the other 98 positions 10/10 times I'm fucking MAD AS HELL ABOUT THIS! Why should they be guaranteed 3% of the jobs and I only be guaranteed 97%, it's B.S. I want 100% of the jobs to go to only white people.

benefits? lol you're sooooo crraaaazy!

look who just got elected president. time to stop whining about being held down.

So one black person gets elected after 43 other men have and now America is magically this place of total equality? I guess Obama advancing totally negates all the blacks being held down because they're black.

I'm sure they'll all be happy to hear you've declared this.


It should serve as a message to the broader black community that you can advance in this society if you drop the thug/gangster bullshit. If there is any belief in the black community that true advancement means they can advance in society while still maintaining their street cred, they they will continue to be poor and destitute as a whole. I think Obama should work on creating special schools in urban communities where the promising students can be segregated from all the thug criminals, and let them be examples of how to escape the cycle of poverty that persists in the black community. These students should be given free college educations as well.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Originally posted by: ultra laser
Why must the racist USA continue to perpetuate the anachronistic one-drop-rule?

WTF?? What rule, where is it written in the books?
If anything, if you have a hint of black blood you can still be classified as a minority, with all the benefits such as preference in admissions, hiring, sympathy from the media even if you're not poor, inner-city. So keep crying over nothing.

Yeah gotta love Affirmative Action! Blacks are SO LUCKY to only get the opportunity at 2 or 3 out of every 100 positions. I know as a White man who is all but promised the other 98 positions 10/10 times I'm fucking MAD AS HELL ABOUT THIS! Why should they be guaranteed 3% of the jobs and I only be guaranteed 97%, it's B.S. I want 100% of the jobs to go to only white people.

benefits? lol you're sooooo crraaaazy!

Why do blacks suck so bad even with all this advantage, yet asian immigrants excel so much despite the same racist discrimination but WITHOUT the advantage of affirmative action?
 

ParticleMan

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Originally posted by: JS80
Why do blacks suck so bad even with all this disadvantage, yet asian immigrants excel so much despite the same racist discrimination but WITHOUT the advantage of affirmative action?

Because they're yellow, which is much closer to white than black is. :p
 

kalrith

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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: JohnCU
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Originally posted by: ultra laser
Why must the racist USA continue to perpetuate the anachronistic one-drop-rule?

WTF?? What rule, where is it written in the books?
If anything, if you have a hint of black blood you can still be classified as a minority, with all the benefits such as preference in admissions, hiring, sympathy from the media even if you're not poor, inner-city. So keep crying over nothing.

Yeah gotta love Affirmative Action! Blacks are SO LUCKY to only get the opportunity at 2 or 3 out of every 100 positions. I know as a White man who is all but promised the other 98 positions 10/10 times I'm fucking MAD AS HELL ABOUT THIS! Why should they be guaranteed 3% of the jobs and I only be guaranteed 97%, it's B.S. I want 100% of the jobs to go to only white people.

benefits? lol you're sooooo crraaaazy!

look who just got elected president. time to stop whining about being held down.

So one black person gets elected after 43 other men have and now America is magically this place of total equality? I guess Obama advancing totally negates all the blacks being held down because they're black.

I'm sure they'll all be happy to hear you've declared this.

I believe that all our future presidents will be black as well. According to that wise old saying, "Once you go black, you can never go back."
 

m1ldslide1

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Originally posted by: Xylitol
i'm just glad uneducated, poor black people won't blame racism anymore for their stupidity in not getting a free education

Well, if you think that generational poverty has nothing to do with racism, then I guess I'm not surprised in your thinking that the president-elect will ease the minds of those who would make assertions to the contrary.

In other words, don't hold your breath.

Or wait, do hold your breath, because then you can't repeat that garbage out loud.
 

Aikouka

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Poor Asian Americans are still being held down though :(. When will we see President Fuk Yu?
 

BurnItDwn

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Originally posted by: mugs
Are we debating whether Obama is black or white? :confused:
Well, the blacks picked Tiger Woods in their first round draft pick. The Whites picked Colin Powell. The black delegation offered to give them Condi Rice (cause they thought the whites would give them Eminem, but they wound up giving them back OJ instead)
I think it's the black delegation's turn now, but I don't remember ... this episode of Chapelle Show was from a few years ago ..
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: paulxcook
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Personally I wait for the day when people can just be called American, without race even coming into the conversation. I think saying African-American actually causes a greater divide. Also assuming you are African because of your skin color is wrong as well, there are many non white countries that are not African.

In college I worked for a bookstore. In February we put up a display for Black History Month, though "African American" was used. Nelson Mandela's biography was one of the books in the display. I laughed, but no one really got it.

Hahaha ... That is funny. People get so wrapped up in being "PC" that they often aren't even aware of the labels that they are using. They'd rather be PC and not offend then be technically correct ...
 

jagec

Lifer
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Originally posted by: kalrith
Originally posted by: QueBert
So one black person gets elected after 43 other men have and now America is magically this place of total equality? I guess Obama advancing totally negates all the blacks being held down because they're black.

I'm sure they'll all be happy to hear you've declared this.

I believe that all our future presidents will be black as well. According to that wise old saying, "Once you go black, you can never go back."

:laugh: Nice.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Originally posted by: ultra laser
Why must the racist USA continue to perpetuate the anachronistic one-drop-rule?

WTF?? What rule, where is it written in the books?
If anything, if you have a hint of black blood you can still be classified as a minority, with all the benefits such as preference in admissions, hiring, sympathy from the media even if you're not poor, inner-city. So keep crying over nothing.

Yeah gotta love Affirmative Action! Blacks are SO LUCKY to only get the opportunity at 2 or 3 out of every 100 positions. I know as a White man who has the preference for the other 98 10/10 times I'm fucking MAD AS HELL ABOUT THIS! Why should they be guaranteed 3% of the jobs and I only be guaranteed 97%, it's B.S. I want 100% of the jobs to go to only white people.
hmmm....

so actual qualifications mean nothing in your world?

No, qualifications don't mean anything, that's the only reason Affirmative Action was put into place in the first place. I wish it wasn't like that, but the reality is A.A. was set up so Black people had a chance at a minuscule percentage of jobs many were already qualified for but could never get without it. Any white person who bitched about how "unfair" A.A. was doesn't understand they (the white person bitching) is still guaranteed just about every other position. The Blacks I know weren't overly joyed at the prospect still not qualifying for 99% of the jobs even if they possessed the skills. AA is a fuckin joke and the fact it was needed in the first place speaks in volumes about how qualifications in the USA mean nothing unless you're White.


Not all companies are run by racist trash.
There are a LOT of successful people of all races where I work. I don't think AA played a real part in any of the hiring. I think Qualifications are all that was looked at.

Of course I live and work in the Chicago Suburbs and the company I work for is a really great company. At the corporate IT level, I don't see any races getting held back or trampled on.

I think you are exaggerating the extent of racism ... but maybe the local region plays a big part ....
 

WaTaGuMp

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So is it possible to have a gay guy become president, if hes married in a state that excepts it as legal, and he was born in the U.S whats to stop it? Also would his partner still be called the 1st lady? :p
 

evident

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Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Originally posted by: ultra laser
Why must the racist USA continue to perpetuate the anachronistic one-drop-rule?

WTF?? What rule, where is it written in the books?
If anything, if you have a hint of black blood you can still be classified as a minority, with all the benefits such as preference in admissions, hiring, sympathy from the media even if you're not poor, inner-city. So keep crying over nothing.

Yeah gotta love Affirmative Action! Blacks are SO LUCKY to only get the opportunity at 2 or 3 out of every 100 positions. I know as a White man who is all but promised the other 98 positions 10/10 times I'm fucking MAD AS HELL ABOUT THIS! Why should they be guaranteed 3% of the jobs and I only be guaranteed 97%, it's B.S. I want 100% of the jobs to go to only white people.

benefits? lol you're sooooo crraaaazy!

Why do blacks suck so bad even with all this advantage, yet asian immigrants excel so much despite the same racist discrimination but WITHOUT the advantage of affirmative action?

immigrants like my parents bust their ass, because they came here with nothing and had the drive. people in inner cities are born into a cycle that does not encourage anything but drugs, rap music and violence and many don't have that drive or simply dont know any better than what surrounds them. it's really sad, actually and i think about this all the time when i drive through philly. alot of inner city blacks are also single parents, and that increases the difficulty by another ordero f magnitude to raise a family.
 

Aikouka

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Originally posted by: Imp
You mean President Pook Kai.

I'm still trying to figure out the funny in this one :eek:.

Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
So is it possible to have a gay guy become president, if hes married in a state that excepts it as legal, and he was born in the U.S whats to stop it? Also would his partner still be called the 1st lady? :p

Well that depends... would the president elect be the bitch or the butch in the relationship?
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: evident
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Lurknomore
Originally posted by: ultra laser
Why must the racist USA continue to perpetuate the anachronistic one-drop-rule?

WTF?? What rule, where is it written in the books?
If anything, if you have a hint of black blood you can still be classified as a minority, with all the benefits such as preference in admissions, hiring, sympathy from the media even if you're not poor, inner-city. So keep crying over nothing.

Yeah gotta love Affirmative Action! Blacks are SO LUCKY to only get the opportunity at 2 or 3 out of every 100 positions. I know as a White man who is all but promised the other 98 positions 10/10 times I'm fucking MAD AS HELL ABOUT THIS! Why should they be guaranteed 3% of the jobs and I only be guaranteed 97%, it's B.S. I want 100% of the jobs to go to only white people.

benefits? lol you're sooooo crraaaazy!

Why do blacks suck so bad even with all this advantage, yet asian immigrants excel so much despite the same racist discrimination but WITHOUT the advantage of affirmative action?

immigrants like my parents bust their ass, because they came here with nothing and had the drive. people in inner cities are born into a cycle that does not encourage anything but drugs, rap music and violence and many don't have that drive or simply dont know any better than what surrounds them. it's really sad, actually and i think about this all the time when i drive through philly. alot of inner city blacks are also single parents, and that increases the difficulty by another ordero f magnitude to raise a family.

I already know the right answer I fucking lived it, I wanted to hear an answer from a black racist.
 

loic2003

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I'm really happy that Obama got in - he's clearly going to do wonders for the country.

My only concern was that he didn't get in so much for his policies, but because he is black/part black (whatever). Check out the breakdown by the BBC of who voted for what:

BBC Voting analysis

In particular, see the non-white voting ratios - 95% of Black people voted Obama. Does it so happen that 95% agree with his policies compared to only 43% of whites? Of course not.
In this situation the result was fantastic, but it raises the question of how in our modern multi-cultural societies which often suffer from voter apathy (eg the UK) what could happen if a less than desirable potential leader of a particular race stood for election.

A second question I considered: If some racist white supremacist took it upon himself to assasinate Obama, do you think this would cause massive civil unrest in the country?

cheers.
 
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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: Xylitol
i'm just glad uneducated, poor black people won't blame racism anymore for their stupidity in not getting a free education

Poor, uneducated black people will quickly learn that they don't have much more in common with a wealthy black man that went to Harvard than they had with a wealthy white man who went to Yale.

You do realize he was nowhere near wealthy, right? He grew up lower middle class, and his grades got him in, not money.
 

FeuerFrei

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Originally posted by: JS80
Why do blacks suck so bad even with all this advantage, yet asian immigrants excel so much despite the same racist discrimination but WITHOUT the advantage of affirmative action?

That is worthy of a thread in and of itself. Why have US blacks in general failed to assimilate themselves into American society, while Mexicans/Asians/Euros successfully seamlessly integrate?

Because they see their surrounding culture as 'white' culture rather than 'American' and set out to establish their own subculture based on a shaky crime-loving foundation. Basically attempting to create a country within a country. Doomed to conflict.