Originally posted by: yakko
Originally posted by: aircooled
Originally posted by: yakko
Originally posted by: aircooled
my 76 bus (type 4, 2.0 engine)....
You do know that the buses never came with Type IV motors right? They were always Type II. I like the old VWs but I prefer the early H2O carslike the MK I Scirocco or Rabbit. MK II Quantum wagon up to 83 or 84 (with an Audi 2.0 preferably).
Sorry to contridict you, but that is incorrect. The VW transporter (the bus), which was always known as the type II (the beetle was type I) changed engines in 1972. Even though the vehicle was still considered the type II, the enginge was the type 4 from 1972-1979 (before it went water cooled). This was basically the same enigine as the porsche 914 (the spark plugs were angled in a slightly different direction).
Edit here's a link:
VW quick reference link Take a particular look at the 1972 bus (type II/type4)
It is more than just the spark plugs that were different. The Type II used a carb in the early years while the Type IV was feul injected since day one. Technically none of it really made it a different motor. All of it was basically to do with how you accessed the motor in the engine compartment. Angle of the plugs, where the number was stamped on the engine block, feul injection and a few other minor details. When I was a VW mechanic I made the mistake of saying that the bus had a Type IV motor in it and I got the whole story about the differencs from the guy who had been working there for over 20 years.
My previous career was an aircooled VW mechanic (before computer tech...;-)) and I can assure you that the 1972 and up VW Bus engine is a type 4 (see the
link I provided in my last post). Unlike the 914 it used dual carbs rather than fuel injection until mid-70's, then it used Audi fuel injection components untill it became water-cooled after 1980 and became the vanagon and used the rabbit/golf engine.
You are correct that the VW bus was always called a type 2, but the engine was a type 1 from origin to 1971, and type 4 from 1972 to 1979. It's the vehicle as a whole that is considered type 2, the engine type changed in 1972. In fact there was never a true engine type considered type II, just the vechicle itself.
I'm not trying to argue.... us vw folks are pretty mellow...;-) But factually speaking the engine I am referring to is a type 4, and it's shortblock can be used in any type 4 vehicle, and it's longblock can also be used in any type 4 vehicle excluding the 914 only due to spark plug angle otherwise it's the same. (the fuel injection etc... is a moot point as it can be placed on carberated model and vice versa. I've put dual carbs on a 914 that was originally fuel injected, and fuel injection on buses that were carberated by adding another spout from the fuel tank. It's the block and heads that make the engine model, not whether it fuel injected or not. You can completly convert a type 4 engine to an upright configuration (just like a type 1) and it's still a type 4 engine.
No offence...you are obviously a VW guy... but the '72 and on bay window bus has a type 4 engine even though the vehicle is a type II transporter.
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