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Kabob

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I don't know what it is about this game but it seems to bring the arseholes out from all corners of the world, especially the ones who are AWFUL but think they're fantastic and can't find anything better to do than make fun of their teammates.
 

nanobreath

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Me and my brothers had an amazing weekend of LoL. My elder brother started to play Maokai and was absolutely dominating. Basically he plays him so well early game that he helps feed his lane mate, which is me or our youngest brother. The tower in that lane would be busted early and the ganking everywhere else would begin. Even when other lanes were feeding our opponents, we would easily pull it through. The best thing he could do on Maokai is tower dive somebody at least half HP(sometimes more) and with me on Brand, they would die so quickly he would only take about two tower hits. Also, Maokai's ability to harass people even at their own tower is awesome. You can play very aggressively and push the lane, and still keep them away from minions.

We were completely undefeated yesterday, and that was a very long day of LoL. We played over 10 games, and won them all!
 

crownjules

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After last night, I think I much prefer laning Lux over taking her solo. She is much more potent if someone can stun/slow the enemy to setup her snare for a sure shot. All those 3 games I came out of the laning phase 3/0/1+ or better. Taric would setup massive damage combos with his stun which meant my full combo was guaranteed to hit. Plus he could heal through the harassment I'd take and the Mana Manip helped to keep me spamming my spells.

I think our last game would have been a win if we had stayed with Taric. I don't think Amumu was a great fit for our team comp and without Taric we didn't have a support champ.
 

zebano

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Crown that taric/lux combo was almost unfair... I've got to adjust to brand, he seems to have a built in bloodrazor (his passive) and it's melting my tanks way faster than I expect to die.


Re: Rhoxed: what I play (prioritized left = highest)

Ranged AD : Ashe, Tristana, Corki (when free)
AP: Ryze (yes, he is that good now), AP Sion, Annie, Zilean, Lux, Kenen (when free), Morgana
Melee AD/Bruisers: Xin, Sion, Udyr, Malphite, Garen
Jungle only: Udyr, WarWick, Shaco
Tanks: Rammus, Amumu, Nunu, Singed, Taric

Only 21 champs at the moment...

Re: Runes: I like having 9 pages of runes but the basic two right now for me would be (re-using as much as possible)
Red: ArPen / MPen
Yellow: HP/Level or MP5/lvl if you need them
Blue: flat MResist or MP5/lvl (worse than the yellows, but still good if you want yellow runes like dodge)
Quint: HP

Personally I really like which are character specific: flat AP blues, AP quints, movespeed quints, crit chance red, critchance quints and I also have a full set of AS runes from when I played a lot of warwick. I also have red & yellow flat armor which is awesome on a jungler.


Some runes I've bought that I would love to get my IP back for:
Blue critchance
yellow critchance (a lot better than the blues)
CDR/lvl blues (I always use the flat)
flat MP5 yellow
 

ImpulsE69

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3 of those 5 are newly released champs. Riot succeeded in getting the old champs nerfed out and the new crew in.

Not really, I'm probably a minority, but I don't play every champ. I started playing Heimer/Anivia..and pretty much stuck to that. On occasion a new champ catches my eye and I will try it, but for the most part, I just stick with one champ because I suck :)
 

HumblePie

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Oct 30, 2000
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Well I had an up and down weekend.

Starting Saturday morning my internet was crap. I've been experiencing major problems with Time Warner in the last few months that was getting progressively worse. Basically once or twice during games my bandwidth would be throttled or something and I would lag out. This happens in every game I had been playing online. When it happened once every 30 minutes I thought it was just random net hiccups or something at first. But it progressively got worse to the point that on Saturday I could not keep a connection while playing any game. I could surf all I wanted to, but games would just lag out. What was funny was downloading wasn't bothered by the throttling. Just games.

So I finally contacted Time Warner about it. I went round and round with tech support as usual. They kept saying nothing is wrong that they could find. However, magically after the phone call it stopped doing it. I played from that point out after Saturday morning and all day Sunday with zero throttle problems.

Still I ended up with leaver status and some crap losses the first 3 games I tried Saturday morning.

Saturday and Sunday I did nothing but solo ranked queue. Saturday was great after the morning. I didn't lose a single game. I pulled myself from 1050 ELO to almost 1300. I was feeling good and everyone I grouped with said I was a badass. The other teams who looked at my elo after the games said they couldn't believe how low my elo was compared to how I played.

What goes up though must come back down I suppose. Sunday was the opposite. I couldn't get any halfway decent teammates to win a game. Worse is they would blame me for it all. Which is why I think from now on I'm not going to jungle anymore. I'm damn good a jungling, but part of the aspect of being a good jungler is being able to gank a sidelane. The problem is to do this the lanes can't be pushed forward. If they are then I can't gank from the jungle. Still I was called out in a few games saying we were losing because I wasn't ganking while they were all pushed up to the enemy towers. Instead my team mates would be the ones getting ganked from the enemy jungle and then it was my fault for not saving them.

Then by the time the team fights start the other team had some overly fed champs and we would get slaughtered. It was just horrid game after horrid game watching it happen. Oh well, so goes the perils of solo ranked queue. You get lucky and have team mates that know what they are doing, or you don't. Little mistakes are one thing, but being retarded is another though. There seems way too many of the later ones.
 

crownjules

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Crown that taric/lux combo was almost unfair... I've got to adjust to brand, he seems to have a built in bloodrazor (his passive) and it's melting my tanks way faster than I expect to die.

I especially liked this sequence:

Me: Alright, I need to go back and buy with 2K gold. <starts heading to turret to B>
Enemy Sona comes out to start creeping at the mid point of the lane with Jarvan nearby. She's at 1/3rd HP, he's maybe at 50%.
Me: <stops in bush> Oh my laser is up, can you stun Sona?
Taric: Of course. <stun's Sona>
Me: <PEWPEW>
Taric: <Shatters>
An ally has killed a champion!
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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@Humble that's why ELO is stupid. You get a personal rating based on the abilities of 4 other people. No matter how good you do, you get tossed back to the slumps. Just like a horrible player can get high ELO because he teams with good players.
 

zebano

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@Humble that's why ELO is stupid. You get a personal rating based on the abilities of 4 other people. No matter how good you do, you get tossed back to the slumps. Just like a horrible player can get high ELO because he teams with good players.

In 5 man premades that may work, but a horrible player will not exceed their personal elo by much (I estimate a max of 200 points) because they will start feeding and causing losses.

That said, I think it takes a LOT of games for elo to even out with a 5-man team. Consider that Chess which is essentially the most perfect scenario for elo (1v1) uses a provisional rating which is essentially an average of opponents rating (+400 for win, -400 for loss, even for draw) for you first 25 games making elo extremely volatile until that 26th game (this is how the USCF does it I'm not sure about FIDE).
 

Malak

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Dec 4, 2004
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My games as karthus are frustrating. It's either, "Great having a Karthus on the team" or "We lost because of Karthus"

I don't change my strategy, so I'm either double digit kills or because I don't get kills it is entirely my fault we lost. And I usually have the least deaths on the team too.
 

Malak

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Dec 4, 2004
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Tweaked my build a bunch of times and hit the sweet spot. Won 6 ranked games in a row with Karthus. Even got a quadra kill today.

I have noticed though that Karma is the most annoying champ to lane against, she will not die.
 

Fenixgoon

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Jun 30, 2003
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this was rich:

5man premade - we wanted to make a failteam - characters we rarely or never played before.

our failteam failed at failing - we actually crushed 2 games in a row. i played anivia (never touched her before) and went mid (I HATE mid) and we roflstomped. if the next champ isn't that cool, i may either get brand or anivia. love anivia's massive burst damage.
 

Chiropteran

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Played some fiddlesticks for the first time seriously. Seems pretty good once I can get past the fact that he is just terrible at pushing a lane and sustained dps. It's kinda nice how durable he can be in a fight though just via draining life.

Not sure I fully have the knack for using his ultimate correctly, had several countered by malphite ults, although I did turn a losing game around through an excellent ult at baron giving me a triple kill.

Been going magic pen boots, magic pen visage, magic pen abyssal scepter, and then into a rod of the ages and once a sunfire cape, just to add some needed durability and a little extra lane pushing aoe damage.
 

Malak

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Played some fiddlesticks for the first time seriously. Seems pretty good once I can get past the fact that he is just terrible at pushing a lane and sustained dps. It's kinda nice how durable he can be in a fight though just via draining life.

Not sure I fully have the knack for using his ultimate correctly, had several countered by malphite ults, although I did turn a losing game around through an excellent ult at baron giving me a triple kill.

Been going magic pen boots, magic pen visage, magic pen abyssal scepter, and then into a rod of the ages and once a sunfire cape, just to add some needed durability and a little extra lane pushing aoe damage.

Fiddle is super easy to push a lane. His E skill tears it up. Drop it on 2 tower hugging champs and lol. Sunfire cape is stupid, it's all about the rabadon cap. When your AP is through the roof, you can drain life faster than they can hurt you anyway. Ult in, then pop silence, then pop drain. WIN.
 

Chiropteran

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Fiddle is super easy to push a lane. His E skill tears it up. Drop it on 2 tower hugging champs and lol. Sunfire cape is stupid, it's all about the rabadon cap. When your AP is through the roof, you can drain life faster than they can hurt you anyway. Ult in, then pop silence, then pop drain. WIN.

I figured that is what the E was for, but it has a fairly long cooldown and doesn't seem to do much at low ranks. I was under the impression that maxing out W and putting points in Q for longer fear duration was most important, so I only put a single point in E until later levels. I could see a build that maxes E earlier as a fair lane pusher, but wouldn't that greatly limit your ganking potential? Without points in Q your fear doesn't last long at all, and with a low rank drain you don't do enough damage while waiting on E cooldown- at least that is what I was told.
 

Maximilian

Lifer
Feb 8, 2004
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Me and my brothers had an amazing weekend of LoL. My elder brother started to play Maokai and was absolutely dominating. Basically he plays him so well early game that he helps feed his lane mate, which is me or our youngest brother. The tower in that lane would be busted early and the ganking everywhere else would begin. Even when other lanes were feeding our opponents, we would easily pull it through. The best thing he could do on Maokai is tower dive somebody at least half HP(sometimes more) and with me on Brand, they would die so quickly he would only take about two tower hits. Also, Maokai's ability to harass people even at their own tower is awesome. You can play very aggressively and push the lane, and still keep them away from minions.

We were completely undefeated yesterday, and that was a very long day of LoL. We played over 10 games, and won them all!

Whats so good about maokai? People have told me hes just a meh tank with healing abilities, i am in ELO hell though where people have told me they are the walrus and they live in a hedge etc so i should probably give maokai a shot. I did find those saplings a pita to deal with when laning vs him.
 

zebano

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Regarding Fiddle, there are a few ways to play him, one is the dark wind build the Chiro plays. I personally find I'm much more useful going 2pts in drain, max terror, then max dark wind. Maxing terror early is useful for so many things but does rely on your teammates to be fully effective. There are lots of good builds on leaguecraft but his main weaknesses are that he is squishy and susceptible to CC (breaks ult & drain channels). Toward that end I prefer a builds of Catalyst > Void staff > Sorc Boots > RoA > Quicksilver Sash (may build earlier if needed). I use this same build when jungling but I start with an AP book.
 

zebano

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Whats so good about maokai? People have told me hes just a meh tank with healing abilities, i am in ELO hell though where people have told me they are the walrus and they live in a hedge etc so i should probably give maokai a shot. I did find those saplings a pita to deal with when laning vs him.

Moaki has the ability to solo push / hold /farm a lane via sapplings (like Galio with q/e) and his HP & armor / level were both just buffed making him stronger early. After that he has a lot of ganking utility via him root and knock up though his ult can be tricky to use well. Personally I like him best as a dual-lane taking a point in w to start.
 

AstroManLuca

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Jun 24, 2004
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Well I just played LoL for the very first time last night. I had installed it a while back but there were so many updates released since then that it didn't even work, had to download and reinstall from scratch.

But it was pretty fun! Played two games with some friends against easy bots. I sucked ass, got 1 kill in the first game and none in the second, and died a bunch. Also got a load of assists.

I was always intimidated by LoL because I played DotA a few times and couldn't figure it out. LoL is much more noob-friendly, if only because of the better interface. Especially for buying stuff. God, I remember spending ten minutes in DotA reading item descriptions and trying to figure out what I should buy, and having to go from vendor to vendor looking for specific items.

It's going to be bot matches for me for a while, but the fact that that's an option is pretty nice.

Oh yeah, and my friend who introduced me to the game just got a job at Riot Games! So he'll be getting paid to play the game.
 

Kabob

Lifer
Sep 5, 2004
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Well I just played LoL for the very first time last night. I had installed it a while back but there were so many updates released since then that it didn't even work, had to download and reinstall from scratch.

But it was pretty fun! Played two games with some friends against easy bots. I sucked ass, got 1 kill in the first game and none in the second, and died a bunch. Also got a load of assists.

I was always intimidated by LoL because I played DotA a few times and couldn't figure it out. LoL is much more noob-friendly, if only because of the better interface. Especially for buying stuff. God, I remember spending ten minutes in DotA reading item descriptions and trying to figure out what I should buy, and having to go from vendor to vendor looking for specific items.

It's going to be bot matches for me for a while, but the fact that that's an option is pretty nice.

Oh yeah, and my friend who introduced me to the game just got a job at Riot Games! So he'll be getting paid to play the game.

Glad to have you Luca! What's your username, I'll add you to my friend's list!

I'm still quite noobish myself and (as much as I am embarrassed to admit it) I mostly play against bots, especially with another buddy who is brand new.
 

zebano

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Jun 15, 2005
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Kabob & Luca, be sure to check the link in my sig for usernames of other AT folk who play.
 

Malak

Lifer
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I figured that is what the E was for, but it has a fairly long cooldown and doesn't seem to do much at low ranks. I was under the impression that maxing out W and putting points in Q for longer fear duration was most important, so I only put a single point in E until later levels. I could see a build that maxes E earlier as a fair lane pusher, but wouldn't that greatly limit your ganking potential? Without points in Q your fear doesn't last long at all, and with a low rank drain you don't do enough damage while waiting on E cooldown- at least that is what I was told.

I personally max E first, drain second, then fear. I just don't use fear enough for it to matter, and E is real easy harass early game. By the time I need fear, I have enough points in it.
 

crownjules

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Kabob & Luca, be sure to check the link in my sig for usernames of other AT folk who play.

If only the thread maker, Kbirger, was around and could just keep the OP updated with that kind of info. But he doesn't show as being active since 12/2/10 on the forums.
 

Kabob

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Kabob & Luca, be sure to check the link in my sig for usernames of other AT folk who play.

I did, but ya never responded! :'(
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If only the thread maker, Kbirger, was around and could just keep the OP updated with that kind of info. But he doesn't show as being active since 12/2/10 on the forums.

Hrm, probably impossible but maybe the forum mod could move one of the regulars up to OP and give him the ability to mod the first post? I dunno what is possible and what isn't on here.
 
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