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KlokWyze

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frankly you sound like an asshole

I'm shocked anybody wants to talk to you at all

it's funny because he's pretty much being as much as an asshole as possible without cussing them out and they keep coming back. I worked at a place like this and was the same way, but they kept at it and I would just fall into a routine of chit chat for 5 - 30 min every morning. it wasn't so bad as I wasn't busy.... I probably worked 60 minutes a day on average. Paid 8 hours. That place was great. :wub:
 

MrDudeMan

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frankly you sound like an asshole

I'm shocked anybody wants to talk to you at all

i'm not an asshole at all. quite the opposite, actually, which is why they continue to speak to me. the only rude thing i do is give curt replies to the guy who sits in my office for 15 or 20 minutes every morning. i answer him with a flat tone because i'm sitting there trying to get work done so i don't hang on his every word. i'm mostly venting right now because it does bother me, but i never say anything to any of them. it's right there in my OP -i know they're trying to be nice.

my employees all enjoy their jobs and i give them plenty of opportunities to socialize. i also talk to them once in a while about things that aren't work related, but it's few and far between because i'm busy. frequency is a big piece of this. i wouldn't be annoyed about it if it wasn't every single day for hours at a time.
 
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Just chalk up work conversations as work time. You dont stay later because you chit chatted during the day...noob :p
 

MrDudeMan

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it's funny because he's pretty much being as much as an asshole as possible without cussing them out and they keep coming back. I worked at a place like this and was the same way, but they kept at it and I would just fall into a routine of chit chat for 5 - 30 min every morning. it wasn't so bad as I wasn't busy.... I probably worked 60 minutes a day on average. Paid 8 hours. That place was great. :wub:

lol, it's just the one guy because he's by far the most egregious offender. also, the difference with this job is that i'm here because i want to be here and i'm passionate about the work. with my own company, if i'm not working, the work simply isn't getting done and my family is relying on that to happen. not everyone has to care about the job as much as i do and i totally get that, but i don't think asking for a more professional environment makes me an asshole. ignoring that guy sort of does, but it's limited to that.
 
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Smells like a potato lol. I understand how you feel too. I often feel like I have no life outside of work because of traffic and how long I spend traveling back and forth, other obligations to family members, etc. I too come in early and work through lunch so I can leave at 4pm. If I'm lucky I will get home by 6pm.

I've started spending money now on the turnpike so I can get home around 5 usually. Otherwise, it would be sometimes between 6 and 630 with a feeling of I've wasted my day.

You are wasting your life thats for sure..2+ hour commute each way. You nuts?
 

sze5003

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You are wasting your life thats for sure..2+ hour commute each way. You nuts?

It's not usually 2hrs. At the most 1hr and if there is bad traffic it's a little more. With the turnpike it's much faster but also costs more. It's 25 miles from where I live. Sadly there is no local job for my line of work that is say 20 minutes away.

Moving to a location near the company isn't affordable for me. The area is a rich area and rent for a one bedroom is a little over 1k a month not including utilities.

Either way there are days I'm in a meeting for about 4-5 hours with several different meetings. Everyone still goes home at their scheduled time. No one works extra hours unless something is due. There have been days I worked 13hrs to meet a deadline or help team mates complete a project.
 

Slew Foot

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Most of the old people around here are the useless employees who butt kissed their way into "management", and now dont have anything useful to do, so they spend the days walking around the hallways making idle chatter.
 

nageov3t

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meh. I work with a 30 year-old guy who does the same thing... he's afk for half the day because he's walking around socializing with people.

at least when I'm screwing around on ATOT, I'm at my desk so I'm still available to answer phone calls/emails.
 

Jeff7

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You have the luxury of a closeable office door that might also serve to keep people out.
I've got a door to the office here, but:
- I'm the only one who prefers a closed door. (3 of us in one room; it used to be 4.)
- This company generally does not permit closed doors in general, unless it has a window.
- Closed doors don't really keep people out anyway.
For me though, small talk isn't really the issue - my interests don't overlap with those of many others here (no interest in sports or fantasy football, I don't drink, and I don't watch much TV at all), so most people don't stop by to chit-chat. But there's still a constant flow of work-related interruptions throughout the entire day.


I too am firmly in the "kindly leave me alone" department, but get little of it. I can still act the part of a personable and semi-sociable person. (I'd like to add that there is a lot of emphasis on the word "act" in that sentence.)
So people like to bring work-related problems to me, or have me talk to customers, or installers, or end users, or take the more technical sales calls, or talk to vendors...
Then some days I even get to work in an hour or two of actual engineering work.:eek:


For my next job, I'm thinking of acting like I'm mute. And for good measure, I'll chop off both hands so that people won't still be tempted to attempt to engage me in small talk. :D




Next time someone interrupts you, make a phone call from google voice to your office phone number. Your office phone rings, you say excuse me I have to take this. Pick up your phone and have an imaginary conversation. They should get the hint and leave.

Either that or let a silent one fly. Most people would leave a smelly confined space of an office.
Some people are surprisingly patient when it comes to getting nothing done. Waiting until you're done on the phone means they can then talk with you about the phonecall.




Just chalk up work conversations as work time. You dont stay later because you chit chatted during the day...noob :p
No, if you're seen talking to this other person, then you are the one who needs to get back to work. You are too valuable to be wasting time chatting. That other person is already expected to waste time socializing because it's "just how he is," so he'll get away with it. So don't make me tell you again: You need to stay focused on the job when you're on the clock.

That's how it goes.




Most of the old people around here are the useless employees who butt kissed their way into "management", and now dont have anything useful to do, so they spend the days walking around the hallways making idle chatter.
Or call a meeting.
 
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angminas

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piasabird

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I resemble that remark.

Lets see when you get old your attention span gets bad, you cant sleep well, your back hurts, you constantly either want to go to the restroom or you cant. Then your eyesight gets bad and you cant hear well in one ear. Sometimes life is just managing your next doctor's appointment and going to drug store for more medication. Life is just grand when you get old.
 

thestrangebrew1

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I thought you were a dick till I read post #27 and understand the dilemma a little better. I don't have the luxury of a door in my workspace, but I'll put on a set of cans when I'm in no mood to be bothered and that usually does the trick. You could try that I suppose. Although, it could just add another pointless topic of discussion with some of the seniors you work with.
 

MrDudeMan

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This.

Both cranky _and_ self-important. Just the kind of coworker everyone loves. I'm amazed anyone want so socialize with such a shithead.

i want to be left alone to do work, which makes exactly the kind of worker that an employer loves. i know because i also employ multiple people at my own business and the ones who understand that chit-chat is okay in small doses are by far my best employees. thanks for playing, though.

I thought you were a dick till I read post #27 and understand the dilemma a little better. I don't have the luxury of a door in my workspace, but I'll put on a set of cans when I'm in no mood to be bothered and that usually does the trick. You could try that I suppose. Although, it could just add another pointless topic of discussion with some of the seniors you work with.

i may have needed to use a little more finesse in my OP to not make myself seem like a jerk because i'm definitely not. i help these people carry things to and from their cars, i pick up groceries for them sometimes, and i've gone to their houses a few times to do things for them like fix plumbing leaks, etc. i just want a professional workplace, which is really the point i was trying to make all sarcasm aside. i don't hate elderly people, but i really don't see why they need to be at a professional place of business literally doing nothing when there are many other people trying to be productive.

as a counter point to those of you calling me an asshole, these people continue to talk to me specifically because i'm nice to them. the other non-old people in the office are rude and abrasive right to their faces. there are two choices here: i can be a jerk to them and get what i want, which will ultimately create an unhappy work environment for them as well as me, or i can keep my mouth shut while continuing to be nice to most of them, which is the more human thing to do. yes, i wish they would go somewhere else while i'm trying to be productive, but given the options available to me i'm going to take the high road.
 

Scarpozzi

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Don't worry. With the way healthcare is going in this country insurance will eventually pay out so little that everyone will die much, much sooner. This will result in younger, old people and possibly solve your crisis.
 

Ns1

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as a counter point to those of you calling me an asshole, these people continue to talk to me specifically because i'm nice to them. the other non-old people in the office are rude and abrasive right to their faces. there are two choices here: i can be a jerk to them and get what i want, which will ultimately create an unhappy work environment for them as well as me, or i can keep my mouth shut while continuing to be nice to most of them, which is the more human thing to do. yes, i wish they would go somewhere else while i'm trying to be productive, but given the options available to me i'm going to take the high road.

option 3) ask them politely to let you do your work?
 

MrDudeMan

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option 3) ask them politely to let you do your work?

i've done that several times and it doesn't work. i've asked them to talk less loudly and/or frequently, in a different part of the office, outside on the bench, in the break room, etc. and they just laugh like i'm messing around. it's the kind of tone that most people would interpret as nice as well as serious.

in the end, i'm not going to be mean to them just to get them to stop being nice to me, so i believe i only have the two options outlined above. even when it shows promise of actually working, they seem to forget by the following monday and the cycle repeats.
 

thestrangebrew1

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. i help these people carry things to and from their cars, i pick up groceries for them sometimes, and i've gone to their houses a few times to do things for them like fix plumbing leaks, etc.

No longer dick in my book. Feel free to continue venting....
 

sze5003

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i've done that several times and it doesn't work. i've asked them to talk less loudly and/or frequently, in a different part of the office, outside on the bench, in the break room, etc. and they just laugh like i'm messing around. it's the kind of tone that most people would interpret as nice as well as serious.

in the end, i'm not going to be mean to them just to get them to stop being nice to me, so i believe i only have the two options outlined above. even when it shows promise of actually working, they seem to forget by the following monday and the cycle repeats.

Doesn't sound much much like a professional environment. What are their roles? If they don't do anything I don't understand why the boss does not see this or does that guy never leave his office?

I used to work with a bunch of school teachers. Being a developer I took care of their website and handled any tech issues. They were very gossip like but the boss was a serious woman and she made the environment workable. There were plenty of old people but they didn't just walk around like it's an old age home.
 

alkemyst

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OP, it's clear you will never be cut out for management nor ever be a team player.

Your recommendation of / wrists is probably the way to go.