old people bitter about dying just as technology starting to get good?

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quackagator

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Lots of experts on thie forum with knowledge of old people. I wonder how old they are. Just saying
 

88keys

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Old people don't like technology much less anything else that is 'new' so I really don't think they care.
 

Greenman

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yes, because nothing can ever get better

There is some truth to that statement. On the medical side we've never been better, technology across the board has improved, but cell phones and big tv's don't equate to a better life.
 

Imp

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technology has also miniaturized nuclear weapons too!! A 10k.ton device is only 6" x 15"..about the size of a large thermos. Isn't technology amazing?? Imagine the fun when those get out into the wild!!

Oh boy, if it's anything like in Fallout 3 then it'll be awesome! Cleared an entire room full of power armored people with a single mini-nuke way back when.
 

flexy

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The same logic can be applied to the 1900s when electric light, "moving pictures", radio etc. was invented. There too people thought they're living in a Science Fiction world.

In fact, ANY person who lives or who ever lived (at ANY time!) is always living in the most advanced society. Mind boggling, isn't it :)
 

lxskllr

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In fact, ANY person who lives or who ever lived (at ANY time!) is always living in the most advanced society. Mind boggling, isn't it :)
Technically true, but not always practically. Also, pre industrial revolution, people could have lives indistinguishable from their great great great grandparent's.
 

Kaido

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I'm not that old and I am pissed. By the time I die, technology is going to be insane. What has been accomplished in the past 50 years is just astounding. Another 50 years from now, everything will be unrecognizable. I'll probably just barely be around around that time, but people 100 - 200 years from now people are probably going to be immortal via brain transplants into newly grown bodies, or possibly just mapping new brains into babies or something else ridiculous.

I am pissed that I will miss out on witnessing much more in the technological sector, and other worldly ongoings, by being born 100-200 years too early to be immortal.

I think about what my kids are going to experience & it's just mind-boggling. I had no idea how to use computers as a kid because everything was in DOS; now everything is touch-enabled & turns on instantly. They have no idea what a DVD movie is because everything plays through our Roku & PLEX. VR tech is heating up with the HTC Vive & Oculus Rift coming out in the next 8 months. Stuff like floor projectors for kid's games are becoming available at affordable prices:

http://www.lumoplay.com/

Food technology & transportation advances gives us any kind of food you want, all year round. Sure, a small bucket of blueberries may cost six bucks, but you can buy it in the dead of winter simply by driving down to the local grocery store. Mini-split ductless systems let you heat & cool each room individually with great power savings. Cars have keyless entry, doors have touch pinpads, no keys required (I'm a bit of a smarthome nut). Spotify is ten bucks a month for 30 million songs, delivered instantly & in high quality, which can be wirelessly streamed to any of the speakers in the house, the car, or to wireless headphones. If you have a question about something, you can simply google it...you don't have to talk to someone, go to a library, or give up & just never know.

Things are already amazing now, it will be neat to see where we are in 20 years!
 

Kaido

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Technology just starting to get good ?

I guess the OP is thinking about computer technology. Nope, it's the opposite. Computer technology development is almost over. We got 10nm chips now. We'll get down to 1nm. And then we're done. Frequency might get a bit higher. Power usage will go down. But compute-speed per square (or cubic) centimeter will be limited. Because of minimal transistor size. Computer might get 10x or 100x faster as they are today. And that's it. The end. The limit.

It's like what happened in the sixties. Men flew to the moon ! We had dreams of human-populated centers on the moon, daily spaceships flying between earth and moon. The human race expanding to Mars, Juniper and its moons, etc. Interstellar space travel. In the end, it was too expensive, too impractical, impossible and didn't have enough benefits. The expectations were much much higher than what we got in the end.

Same thing will happen with computers. There will be improvements, new applications. Software will improve (if only because of parallelism). But I bet that computer and software technology will make a much smaller leap 2015 to 2040 than we've seen 1990-2015. With much less impact.

Can you imagine living in the early 20th century ? Einstein came up with relativity. Quantum mechanics was invented. Truly spectacular times. Human kind was about to unravel the mysteries of the universe. Must suck to have missed that.

Yeah, I think once we got quad-core computers with SATA-III SSD's, computers were pretty much to the point where people were happy with the performance. And of course now, your smartphone wakes instantly & all of the programs launch instantly, so there's no waiting anymore. 20-meg Internet is commonplace now, and gigabit fiber is starting to roll out across the nation. I mostly use my Chromebook & iPhone for everything these days. There's still a few things I'd like to have...motorized blinds for my home automation system & silly things like that, but things are really good technology-wise these days.
 

Geekbabe

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I am an old person, I remember watching my computer downloading Usenet stuff a couple characters at a time. Being thrilled to speak to people online who were actual engineers and scientists. I remember buying a 17 inch NEC CRT monitor when they first came out, you could buy a decent laptop for the price I paid :)

I marvel daily at the fact that my phone is in actually a tiny computer & that I am not chained to a desk and modem. I can research anything,,purchase just about anything from anywhere. My iPhone works beautifully with my iPad and my Mac. Trust me when you are ill and lying in bed it is GREAT when your wifi tablet rings to let you take a call!

My medical providers also use patient gateway, I can access my scans, lab results and more. Technology excites me, it is thrilling to see the broad based possibilities of things like 3-D printing and Drones. These are exciting times in tech as I believe the general public is truly interested and invested in what comes next.
 
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Geekbabe

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I think about what my kids are going to experience & it's just mind-boggling. I had no idea how to use computers as a kid because everything was in DOS; now everything is touch-enabled & turns on instantly. They have no idea what a DVD movie is because everything plays through our Roku & PLEX. VR tech is heating up with the HTC Vive & Oculus Rift coming out in the next 8 months. Stuff like floor projectors for kid's games are becoming available at affordable prices:

http://www.lumoplay.com/

Food technology & transportation advances gives us any kind of food you want, all year round. Sure, a small bucket of blueberries may cost six bucks, but you can buy it in the dead of winter simply by driving down to the local grocery store. Mini-split ductless systems let you heat & cool each room individually with great power savings. Cars have keyless entry, doors have touch pinpads, no keys required (I'm a bit of a smarthome nut). Spotify is ten bucks a month for 30 million songs, delivered instantly & in high quality, which can be wirelessly streamed to any of the speakers in the house, the car, or to wireless headphones. If you have a question about something, you can simply google it...you don't have to talk to someone, go to a library, or give up & just never know.

Things are already amazing now, it will be neat to see where we are in 20 years!

Ah. DOS. The command line is an unforgiving mistress :)
 

Geekbabe

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Another thing to consider. Technology can bring a lot of ease to the elderly. Teach a senior how to use an iPad, the results are worth it! Being able to FaceTime with the family, order needed goods online, movies, news, music, books. Also consider home monitoring tech to help keep an elder safer as well as forward thinking Doctors who use tech to monitor blood sugars, vitals and heart conditions from the patient's own home.

Technology of this sort can help a senior to remain independent for a lot long!
 

Gryz

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In fact, ANY person who lives or who ever lived (at ANY time!) is always living in the most advanced society. Mind boggling, isn't it :)
Not always true.

From 500 till 1500 science and progress has almost halted. In my language we call it "the middle ages". In English they are called The Dark Ages, I believe. There's a reason they call it that.

During those 1000 years, religion was in control. Religion was and still is, very conservative. The truth belongs to God. So therefor there can't be new things, because God didn't teach us those things. You think the Earth revolves around the sun ? Blasphemy ! Evolution ? Blasphemy ! You want to cut open a corpse to study the human body ? Examining gods creation ? Heathen ! Without new things, there is progress.

And today there are still people, everywhere in the world, who would like us to stop progressing. Keep everything like it is. Don't change a thing. Dangerous people. Don't assume that every generation will have the luxury of automatic progress.
 

feralkid

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I saw an old dude pick up a newspaper in a store.

I then pulled out my Nexus 5 and laughed. I can view current news within seconds while he has to wait for the news to hit the newsstands. Even viewing the news on TV is slow compared to what I can do online.

Surely you are like a God to some mere mortals. I beseech Thee; please restrain your almighty hand when using this most awesome of powers, oh great lord.
 

MongGrel

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I saw an old dude pick up a newspaper in a store.

I then pulled out my Nexus 5 and laughed. I can view current news within seconds while he has to wait for the news to hit the newsstands. Even viewing the news on TV is slow compared to what I can do online.

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marvdmartian

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Old people bitter about technology "starting to get good", just as they're dying? :rolleyes:

People who are already septuagenarians or octogenarians (or older) really don't CARE about technology. They've lived their whole lives without it, so why would they miss it?

Besides which, there's no guarantee when your life is over, and people die from natural causes in their 40's, 50's and 60's, too (even younger!). Meanwhile, I know of a lady, who passed away this year, just a week or two shy of her 106th birthday, and I can guarantee that she really didn't care much about most of the modern technology of today.

In fact, I'd say that the guy who thinks, "It can't happen to me, I feel fine!", then drops dead of a "widowmaker" heart attack would be much more likely to be bitter about missing out on so much of what could've been a much longer life.

Screw the technology.....you can live without it! And if you can't, it speaks volumes of your personal character. :hmm:
 

njdevilsfan87

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It's not that us old geezers avoid technology as much we assign it a lower priority than other forms of interaction. Adopting technology is further obfuscated by 'yoots' who think we'll somehow be impressed by how fast they can navigate facebook. We tend to view most apps and social media as wasting time at the speed of light. We shake our heads every time we see 'yoots' melt down due to lack of connectivity. We're not bitter, 'aint nobody got time fo dat.' :D

I hope I don't disconnect... I'm traveling right now thousands of miles away from home , and navigating on the fly thanks to my smart phone. Maps and planning? Got no time for that!
 

Gryz

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Lots of experts on thie forum with knowledge of old people. I wonder how old they are. Just saying
I think people who post on forums regularly are on average a little older.

People in their twenties and thirties might prefer Facebook and Twitter. Because communication on those media is shallow and pretty meaningless. Nobody does Facebook or Twitter to acquire information, or have a real discussion. Everything requires a shorter attention-span. They find forums slow and boring.

Teens prefer even shorter communication. Whatsapp. Imgur. Snapchat. South Park recently did an episode where they suggested that young kids these days rather watch YouTube-movies where others comments on yet others who play games. In stead of playing games themselves. Playing a game yourself requires too much concentration and attention for them. :)

On the forums that I've frequented over the years, there are always threads about "tell something about yourself", "where are you all from ?" and "how old are you ?" I always find it remarkable how many 40+, 50+ or even older posters there are on forums.

So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the majority here on AT is over 30. And I wouldn't be surprised if we have a lot of 40+ and 50+ people. I bet you that everybody who is 50+ does not feel old. Especially not these days. But for a 20-year old, 50+ seems like dinosaurs.
 

cardiac

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Gryz, am one of the original members here. I am just turning 55. You are spot-on, I believe, about older folks on forums. We came through the greatest era in technology.

I went from a Star-Tac phone in 1998 to my LG smartphone today, and that was AWESOME! Keep in mind that the iPhone came out in 2007. Yep, 2007. Only 8 years ago.

I have 2 teenage boys and they are amazed that an old guy like me knows anything about technology, until I decided to up grade an old desktop and we built a new system from the ground up. I think my generation likes to keep up on the nuts and bolts of technology. How and what makes it work. Not like the teens and 20-somethings of today who are happy in knowing HOW to operate it. That is just an opinionated generalization from me; so please, no one take offense.

Cheers, Geekbabe!
 

Kaido

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Ah. DOS. The command line is an unforgiving mistress :)

That's actually how I got into computers...Qbasic was the only thing on there & we started modding the Gorilla lines to change colors & stuff. Had no idea that was 'programming' :p