Old man rants, play too risque

Bateluer

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http://www.wkrn.com/story/21469646/...-school-to-stop-production-of-play?hpt=us_bn8

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -
The grandfather of a junior at Nashville School of Arts is trying to get the school to halt production of a play set to open Thursday night.

J.D. Moseley said when he read the script for the play his grandson was set to star in, he was shocked.

He said the play, "Almost, Maine" by John Cariani, promotes promiscuity and premarital sex.

In one scene, two male friends are drinking beers and talking about failed dates with girls before coming to the conclusion that they are in love with each other.

In another scene, a male cast member appears to seduce his female costar. The two kiss passionately and then strip down to their long underwear before exiting the stage.

Moseley said it gives the impression the two cast members are going to spend the evening engaging in sexual activity.

"Whether it is homosexual or heterosexual, and both are advocated there, it's just absolutely inappropriate for high school students in a high school play," Moseley said, "especially, given the issues that our teenagers are faced with these days like STDs, HIV and unplanned pregnancy."

Moseley contacted Nashville School of the Arts officials, as well as the school's superintendent, to voice his concerns. The school decided not to halt the production.

He then contacted Nashville's News 2 in an effort to let the rest of the community know the school system was allowing such a play to be put on in a high school.

"I would like someone to step forward, stand up for common sense and basic moral decency and say it doesn't matter how much time or effort that has been put into this and say this is inappropriate," Moseley said.

Metro school officials said the students picked the play as part of a project learning assignment where they took on all facets of the play including budgeting, lighting and casting.

The play was one of several the students were allowed to choose from several weeks ago.

"It looks like in this case we have a very diverse school district and that means we have a lot of diverse opinions," Metro Schools Spokeswoman Meredith Libbey said.

"Mr. Moseley has expressed his concerns and we have listened respectfully. He is the only one to share his concerns," she continued.

Libbey pointed out the play has been produced twice before in Metro-Nashville Schools.

Students at Hillsboro High School and at Hume Fogg High School have put on the play without parental complaint.

The play has also been widely produced at schools, community theatres and colleges nationwide since its release in 2006.

Libbey said reading the script and seeing the actual production are very different. She has seen videos of other productions of the play.

"I read some parts of the script and I had one thing in my mind," she said. "Then I looked and I thought this was a comedy."

She continued, "Even in the situation where the kids are tugging on their clothes they get down to long johns. I think many of us would not consider that particularly provocative."

The play's Web site describes the characters as "falling in and out of love in unexpected and hilarious ways."

"It doesn't matter how many times it has been played or who has done it. The issue is not a matter of precedence, it is a matter of appropriateness," Moseley said.

The show opens Thursday at 7 p.m. at the Nashville School of the Arts located at 1250 Foster Ave, and runs through Tuesday.

"We would invite anyone who is interested to make their own judgment," Libbey said.

The school appears to be a college? For students who've graduated high school? Simmer down, Grandpa, there's no issue here.
 

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phucheneh

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Students at Hillsboro High School and at Hume Fogg High School have put on the play without parental complaint.

The 'high school' part of those names should be a hint. Hillsboro is in Green Hills. Near where Al Gore lives/lived (don't remember if that's still his house). Hume Fogg is a magnet school.

You'd think if they didn't care, people with kids in the fuckin' art school wouldn't. Sounds like some random angry old man that is really not newsworthy.

edit: point of mentioning type of schools- many of those parents probably actually pay attention to what happens with their kids. The slum schools I went to, they could probably do full penetration on stage and no one would care.
 
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Taking their clothes off to expose... long underwear?

No problem with that here.

I saw Nora at a theater in Milwaukee and was given an impromptu view of the male lead's junk as he changed costumes on stage, so I am getting a kick out of these replies.

As my mother (a high school choir director) used to tell her students, "Yes. It's about sex. It's all about sex, and it's always about sex."
 

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The 'high school' part of those names should be a hint. Hillsboro is in Green Hills. Near where Al Gore lives/lived (don't remember if that's still his house). Hume Fogg is a magnet school.

You'd think if they didn't care, people with kids in the fuckin' art school wouldn't. Sounds like some random angry old man that is really not newsworthy.

edit: point of mentioning type of schools- many of those parents probably actually pay attention to what happens with their kids. The slum schools I went to, they could probably do full penetration on stage and no one would care.

Al lives in Belle Meade, not Green Hills. Hillsboro is not a good school....far from it actually.
 

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Clash of old school values with that of new. It's not too uncommon for someone of his age to NOT get with the times. Plenty of my older relatives are that way. That said, his raising awareness to the community will most likely be met with a 'meh' response.
 

Kadarin

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I support Grandpa completely.

Oh no! Students are tackling relatively mature subject matter that has to deal with love! Ban it! Panic! The sky is falling! What will we do?!?!?!

I do not support Grandpa.
 

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I forsee the play getting a record number of views after this complaint.
 

sixone

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Oh no! Students are tackling relatively mature subject matter that has to deal with love! Ban it! Panic! The sky is falling! What will we do?!?!?!

I do not support Grandpa.

Teenagers do not have full development of the part of their brains that assesses risk. They are not physically capable of dealing responsibly with this kind of mature subject matter.

Science does still trump every other consideration, does it not?
 

Howard

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Teenagers do not have full development of the part of their brains that assesses risk. They are not physically capable of dealing responsibly with this kind of mature subject matter.

Science does still trump every other consideration, does it not?
How long has it been since you were in high school?
 

waggy

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hope the school told the old fart to fuck off. IF it was near i would go to support the school and actors.

the idiot needs to get over it.
 

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Teenagers do not have full development of the part of their brains that assesses risk.
yeah they're not having sex on stage though, so what's the problem here?
Not being mature enough to take full responsibility for their actions because they're not risk-conscious doesn't mean they can't talk about it.
It doesn't mean they can't do it either, they drive cars at 16, they could kill or make people disabled with cars, not just give STDs or have kids (which are by far less dangerous).
Keeping things in perspective shows that this is just a problem of a clash between different subjective morals.
And it's the mainstream morals that decided which play to stage since the students chose themselves.

Also art school is useless enough for 99% of the students, if you remove artistic freedom too, you've got nothing left, you might as well close up the school. This shows that they're at least getting that right by not allowing morals external to the performers decide on this stuff.
 

Kadarin

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Teenagers do not have full development of the part of their brains that assesses risk. They are not physically capable of dealing responsibly with this kind of mature subject matter.

Science does still trump every other consideration, does it not?

The play seems to deal with emotions more than risk. And people become better at dealing with emotions if they're actually exposed to them.
 

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Teenagers do not have full development of the part of their brains that assesses risk. They are not physically capable of dealing responsibly with this kind of mature subject matter.

Science does still trump every other consideration, does it not?

And yet they are still dealing with these subject matters. We can't change their brain development (yet!), but we can use the tools available to us to show them their options so they don't make the wrong choices out of shear ignorance.

Theater teaches. It shows us people we can identify with dealing with situations we can see ourselves in.
 

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Teenagers do not have full development of the part of their brains that assesses risk. They are not physically capable of dealing responsibly with this kind of mature subject matter.

Science does still trump every other consideration, does it not?

That's why it just pretend, like your idea of science.
 

SphinxnihpS

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And yet they are still dealing with these subject matters. We can't change their brain development (yet!), but we can use the tools available to us to show them their options so they don't make the wrong choices out of shear ignorance.

Theater teaches. It shows us people we can identify with dealing with situations we can see ourselves in.

No! Catharsis is dead. This situation clearly calls for a rush to judgement, protection of the children at all cost, including the children themselves, and self-righteous outrage.
 

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Al lives in Belle Meade, not Green Hills. Hillsboro is not a good school....far from it actually.

Green Hills and Belle Meade are walking distance apart.

I didn't know Hillsboro had gotten bad. I guess they're bussing in the ghetto?

My public school experience was lovely like that...'oh noes, we don't want to look racist, so you have to ride the bus for 45 mins to go to the middle school in the ghetto...no worries, though, for high school, you can stay local...we'll bring the ghetto to you!'
 

zinfamous

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the only issue I see is how embarrassing it would be for the hormonal teen dude if he sprouts wood while stripping on stage.
 

SMOGZINN

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In a followup interview grandpa was quoted as saying "And they better stay off my lawn!" then flew away holding a large bunch of balloons.
 

waggy

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In a followup interview grandpa was quoted as saying "And they better stay off my lawn!" then flew away holding a large bunch of balloons.

they also had another article.

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when i was in 8th grade, we did a pep rally and the cheerleaders all mooned the crowd during their dance. of course they had grannie panties on, but my god that was so hot it will always be engrained in my memory. i was 14 at the time.
 

PenguinPower

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Green Hills and Belle Meade are walking distance apart.

I didn't know Hillsboro had gotten bad. I guess they're bussing in the ghetto?

My public school experience was lovely like that...'oh noes, we don't want to look racist, so you have to ride the bus for 45 mins to go to the middle school in the ghetto...no worries, though, for high school, you can stay local...we'll bring the ghetto to you!'

They're bussing in the ghetto to Brentwood schools...has to mean they've exhausted Davidson county options.