OKLAHOMA DECLARES SOVEREIGNTY From The UNITED STATES! Tells Federal Government To CEASE And DESIST!

SlickSnake

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OKLAHOMA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES - HOUSE JOINT RES 1089 Claiming sovereignty under Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution

STATE OF OKLAHOMA 2nd Session of the 51st Legislature (2008) HOUSE JOINT RESOLUTION 1089 (text)

This is major news to the liberty hating Republikrats currently in power. I only hope more states take up the constitutional battle and pass similar legislation to take back constitutional rights trampled on by the global power hungry fascist feds. This is the only way we can begin to take back our Democratic country from other neo-fascist governments like Mexico and communist China who are insidiously infiltrating the U.S. federal government and the loan sharking private banking industry spearheaded by the privately run Federal Reserve.

Our country and constitutional concepts of personal freedoms are being continuously dismembered at the federal level by fascist neoconservative private corporate special interests who ultimately seek to disempower and enslave the entire U.S.A. for their own greedy short term corporate gains. We can not continue as a free nation to sit idly by while our enslaving private corporate masters continue to dictate U.S. foreign policy and financial affairs to the U.S. congress on a national and a global level.

We did not elect members to U.S. congress to openly trample our constitutional rights and liberties and then traitorously transfer U.S. sovereignty and power to lifeless private corporations and the military industrial complex. We elected them to protect our civil rights, families, finances and our right to work called JOBS.

For the trillions and trillions paid to the feds in misappropriated excessive personal taxes the tens of millions of hard working poor and the millions of destitute people of the U.S.A. demand immediate federal compensation such as equal access for all citizens to proper healthcare for the ongoing political and corporate greed that has robbed them for decades through the maleficience of the U.S. congeress.

And the concerned citizens of the U.S.A. also demand of our congress do not systematically starve the U.S.A. to death on a poisonous diet of corporate driven greed with politically and fiscally mismanaged never ending global warfare which is destroying the reputation of the U.S.A both at home and globally.

Constitutional guaranteed freedoms either mean liberty for ALL MEN, worldwide, or else there can be liberty for NO MAN in the U.S.A. or the world ever again.

I may dearly love this country, but I do not love the combined cluster fuck of the U.S. congress and the enslaving corporate masters screwing the country down the drain financially while the executive office fiddles furiously away completely out of touch with reality and out of control.

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ranmaniac

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Crap, I was born in Oklahoma, I guess my US passport will become invalid. Those bastards!
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: soonerproud
You do realize that Oklahoma is run by Republicans?

Yes.

So do you think they might disagree with the politics of the splinter cell Republikrats in D.C.?

 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Yes.

So do you think they might disagree with the politics of the splinter cell Repubilkrats in D.C.?

Yes they do agree with them. Oklahoma Republicans are solidly in the Bush camp and this state is one of the reddest in the nation.
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Yes.

So do you think they might disagree with the politics of the splinter cell Repubilkrats in D.C.?

Yes they do agree with them. Oklahoma Republicans are solidly in the Bush camp and this state is one of the reddest in the nation.

Then perhaps this was more figuratively passed in order to save face among Oklahoma Republicans who were trying to distance themselves from the D.C. Republikrats and to try to keep Democrats out of the Oklahoma legislature on election day.
 

soonerproud

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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Then perhaps this was more figuratively passed in order to save face among Oklahoma Republicans and to try to keep Democrats out of the Oklahoma legislature on election day.

Nope, just a carrot to constitutionalists and Libertarians to keep their support during the general election. Nothing but political posturing and pandering.
 

NeoV

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well it's official, the looniness in this state isn't limited to it's Senators...
 

HannibalX

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I think the more important questions are:

1.) Is Oklahoma willing to take any other action to back up its resolution?

2.) Is Oklahoma willing to defend itself from the Federal Government if they stop following laws, policies and codes created by the Federal Government that they deem to be unconstitutional.
 

magomago

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I'm going to agree with Pale Rider. Are they going to withdraw their senators or atleast declare them void? Will they open up treaties with other countries? Are they going to form their own government? This will be interesting :p
 

AAjax

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Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Yes.

So do you think they might disagree with the politics of the splinter cell Repubilkrats in D.C.?

Yes they do agree with them. Oklahoma Republicans are solidly in the Bush camp and this state is one of the reddest in the nation.

Um, they just gave Bush and the Fed the finger. Seem to be a bit more invested than the republicans and democrats in congress (Ron Paul and Denis Kucinich withstanding). In fact I would say they have balls 10x the size of either current presidential candidate. You sir are part of the problem, labeling entire states and all their people to fit your political ideology.

And they did not secede from the union, this is just a clarifying of their rights under ratification that was aggreed to when they did join the union, and they pointed out that much of the fed is unconstitutional.
 

Craig234

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What a nothing proposition. It says since the 10th amendment is there, they claim it's there. They don't say anything specific about the actions by the Federal Government they plan to challenge; they don't say anything about the way the states actually make those challenges, in the court system.
 

lupi

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Meh. Montana has stated that their admission into the union will become null and void if the SC rules against the 2nd amendmant; that's something to be watching out for.
 

SlickSnake

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Originally posted by: Robor
All caps? :thumbsdown:

It's a good thing you worry about the important stuff like "All caps?" and let the little things like the topic contents slip right by you.

And no, it is NOT "ALL CAPS" in the TOPIC. :thumbsdown:
 

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Originally posted by: Craig234
What a nothing proposition. It says since the 10th amendment is there, they claim it's there. They don't say anything specific about the actions by the Federal Government they plan to challenge; they don't say anything about the way the states actually make those challenges, in the court system.

Exactly, where's the beef?

Something to do with GW? I smell Inhofe.
 

Socio

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Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Originally posted by: soonerproud
You do realize that Oklahoma is run by Republicans?

Yes.

So do you think they might disagree with the politics of the splinter cell Republikrats in D.C.?

Remember it maybe a Republican Administration but it is Democrat controlled congress with even a lower approval rating than the Administration whom has just as big if not bigger chunk of the blame.
 

Socio

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Originally posted by: soonerproud
Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Then perhaps this was more figuratively passed in order to save face among Oklahoma Republicans and to try to keep Democrats out of the Oklahoma legislature on election day.

Nope, just a carrot to constitutionalists and Libertarians to keep their support during the general election. Nothing but political posturing and pandering.

I don't think it is pandering all when they have to put up with BS like this they don't have much of a choice;

Judicial Supremacy Strikes in Oklahoma

The elected representatives in Oklahoma passed a law to stem the tide of illegal immigrants and, faster than you can say "judicial supremacy," a federal judge blocked its enforcement. The court suspended key sections of the law even before it was due to take effect on July 1.

The Oklahoma Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act was designed to prevent illegal immigrants from taking jobs from Americans and from evading taxes by working in the underground economy.

The Oklahoma law passed the State Legislature by overwhelming, bipartisan, veto-proof majorities (88-9 in the House, 41-1 in the Senate) and was signed by Democratic Gov. Brad Henry. Public opinion polls reported that the law enjoys 88 percent public approval, and it was recognized as a model for other states to copy.

When the Federal Government refuses to protect a States people and forbids the States to protect them as well what choice are States left with?


 

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Does anyone else see the irony in a state claiming that they are not beholden to the federal government citing a document that establishes the federal government as its basis?

Anywho....

I'm all for it as long as they refuse all farm subsidies, highway dollars, welfare and any other federal funding. They certainly take a lot more than they give (+$1.36) to the system.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/show/22685.html

While they are at it, can they convince some of the neighbors that are in the same boat to follow suit? I'm talking to you Arkansas (+$1.41), Kansas (+$1.12), New Mexico (+$2.03) and Missouri (+$1.32). As a bonus, we will allow Mississippi (+$2.02) and Alabama (+$1.66). They've been wanting out of the union for some time now anyway.
 

CADsortaGUY

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Sure is funny to see the left try to spin this into an anti-Bush thing. Pssttt.... not every position taken against the Feds is about Bush.... not that you'll admit it though...