Oklahoma botches execution, went horribly wrong while inmate writhed over 30 minutes

[Anarchist420]

in virginia, the death penalty should be optional at all times to all convicts but it should be made as painless as possible.

 

[Atreus21]

Shot a teenage girl with a handgun followed by a shotgun and then buried her while she was still alive because she told him she was going to report him to the police.

This botched execution is once again the result of anti-death penalty zealots making the drugs that were previously used unattainable. States that execute by lethal injection must therefore make substitutions. The manner in which he died rests squarely on the heads of those zealots. They are to blame.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/cour...cle_e459564b-5c60-5145-a1ce-bbd17a14417b.html

This.

To the extent we make the death penalty more humane, we make it more torturous.

 

[werepossum]

Shot a teenage girl with a handgun followed by a shotgun and then buried her while she was still alive because she told him she was going to report him to the police.

This botched execution is once again the result of anti-death penalty zealots making the drugs that were previously used unattainable. States that execute by lethal injection must therefore make substitutions. The manner in which he died rests squarely on the heads of those zealots. They are to blame.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/cour...cle_e459564b-5c60-5145-a1ce-bbd17a14417b.html

That, sir, is a damned excellent point.

This.

To the extent we make the death penalty more humane, we make it more torturous.

In this case anyway.

Maybe we should just be absolutely sure of instantaneous success and use about twenty kilograms of TNT. That way we can be sure the little darling doesn't suffer AND we save his grieving family the cost of burying him.

 

[classy]

After what this dude did, in all truth, he should have been put in a clear sealed tank and drowned.

 

[cabri]

in virginia, the death penalty should be optional at all times to all convicts but it should be made as painless as possible.

Why should it be painless as possible; the convict apparently had no remorse of pain for the victim?

 

[cuafpr]

Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Why do you hate the Constitution?

after what he did I dont see what he had to suffer as cruel or unusual.

 

[MongGrel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvOJgzb52-Y

 

[mizzou]

why do we overcomplicate something that is extremely simple?

 

[MtnMan]

Karma! The bastard shot and buried a woman while she was still alive. How long did she suffer?

Executions should be as humane as the crime they are being executed for committing.

Want a quick and lethal injection, inject a 45 ACP +P 230 Grain XTP Jacketed Hollow Point round just behind the ear.

 

[sportage]

Again... watch Rachael maddow msnbc 4/30 or the free podcast.
rachael goes over the history of these drugs used in executions.
and how companies nor countries will no longer take part in their production.
drug companies in the US refuse to, and production off shore turned out to be a no go as well. no company nor country will produce the execution drugs for any state.

So states have been experenting with drugs not intended for such use.
and that is why the state court had put a hold on this execution.
And naturally the state governor knowing better (haha) ignored the court ruling.
And the state republicans threatened to impeach the court.

And thus this botched execution.

I don't know what this criminal did or who he killed or the terror the victums went thru, but now every single state citizen as well as the governor and every living soul in that state are also cold blooded murders.

Just as murderous as was the guy tied down in the execution chamber.
Someone call 911.
We have a hell of a lot of cold blooded murders to round up.
Despite the original crime committed, now we have a state full of mass murders as well.
Cold blooded pain inflecting mass murders.
An entire state full of them.
call 911.

 

[Jaepheth]

why do we overcomplicate something that is extremely simple?

Indeed.

I think we're all overlooking the obvious solution: Create a robot with artificial intelligence programmed to destroy all human life in its vicinity, and then put it on an island where we send the condemned.

THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY THAT PLAN COULD GO WRONG IN ANY WAY

Alternatively, we could just tap an artery with a needle and bleed them out.
Hypovolemia doesn't seem nearly as bad as what can go wrong with the current system.

 

[wetech]

Again... watch Rachael maddow msnbc 4/30 or the free podcast.
rachael goes over the history of these drugs used in executions.
and how companies nor countries will no longer take part in their production.
drug companies in the US refuse to, and production off shore turned out to be a no go as well. no company nor country will produce the execution drugs for any state.

So states have been experenting with drugs not intended for such use.
and that is why the state court had put a hold on this execution.
And naturally the state governor knowing better (haha) ignored the court ruling.
And the state republicans threatened to impeach the court.

And thus this botched execution.

I don't know what this criminal did or who he killed or the terror the victums went thru, but now every single state citizen as well as the governor and every living soul in that state are also cold blooded murders.

nice rant, but completely wrong. The botched execution had nothing to do with the new drugs; but with the delivery method. The inmate's vein blew before they could administer the full doses. They didn't realize it until minutes into the procedure.

 

[JockoJohnson]

I don't know what this criminal did or who he killed or the terror the victums went thru

Read the damn thread and you will know what he did and what the victim went through. Did you just see the heading and type a response?

 

[Greenman]

The problem is our desire to have "nice" killings. We want these fellows put down without any mess, no bad smells or ugly scenes. Our squeamish nature is the problem.

 

[BadThad]

It wasn't botched, he died....slowly and painfully I hope. If he did that to YOUR daughter, would you want it any other way?

 

[werepossum]

after what he did I dont see what he had to suffer as cruel or unusual.

The deceased certainly did his best to make this execution seem neither cruel nor unusual.

 

[BoomerD]

They say 1 out of 5 are innocent on death row.. and that is pretty damn scary.. but this just violates the constitution on the issue surrounding cruel and unusual punishment. These folks messed up big time.. and there is now even closer scrutiny and outcry over this.

"Cruel and unusual punishment" never said that the execution can't hurt...torturing the criminal until he/she dies...that would be cruel and unusual punishment. Death by shooting, hanging, gas chamber, lethal injection, guillotine...those should all be completely legal.

Very few folks who commit murder are concerned in the slightest about whether they cause their victims pain and suffering...why the fuck should we, as a society, be overly concerned whether an execution of someone legally convicted and sentenced to death, is a bit...uncomfortable or painful?

 

[lozina]

Waaaaahhhh the poor convicted murderer suffered some pain! Oh the humanity!

 

[WelshBloke]

This botched execution is once again the result of anti-death penalty zealots making the drugs that were previously used unattainable. States that execute by lethal injection must therefore make substitutions. The manner in which he died rests squarely on the heads of those zealots. They are to blame.]

By zealots you mean the companies that make these drugs yes?

 

[Thebobo]

nice rant, but completely wrong. The botched execution had nothing to do with the new drugs; but with the delivery method. The inmate's vein blew before they could administer the full doses. They didn't realize it until minutes into the procedure.

You have some proof of this I haven't seen anything about this, Links?

 

[boomerang]

By zealots you mean the companies that make these drugs yes?

No, the anti-death penalty groups that brought enough political pressure to bear on the companies that made the drugs such that they ceased distribution to states that used them. Here is a more detailed explanation.

http://www.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas/enews/issue65_4.aspx

Also, to be clear, I made my post before all was known about the case that was behind this thread. wetech has got it right based on the information that came to light later in the reporting process. In this instance, and as far as I know it is the only instance, the subject's vein blew out which contributed to the manner in which he died. Regardless, the mix of drugs used has had to be changed and was in this case.

The necessity of changing the mix of drugs resulted in the prolonged death of an inmate in Ohio and here is an article with a more detailed explanation.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/29/us-usa-execution-ohio-idUSBREA3S09620140429

 

[boomerang]

You have some proof of this I haven't seen anything about this, Links?

There are two threads on this and there is a link somewhere in the other thread that explains it. It wasn't until after his death that they discovered what had actually happened.

 

[WelshBloke]

No, the anti-death penalty groups that brought enough political pressure to bear on the companies that made the drugs such that they ceased distribution to states that used them. Here is a more detailed explanation.

So instead of complaining that you cant force private companies to make something for them why doesnt some company in, say, Texas make it?

 

[Incorruptible]

Death penalty should be restricted more and allowed in special cases. This guy buried his victim alive. She suffered a lot. They need to make sure that this doesn't happen again and do it properly.

 

[Kadarin]

To satisfy the liberal desire to avoid excessive pain and suffering in the execution, the state should just inject the condemned with massive doses of heroin. The victim blisses out and dies, and that's that.