okay I need only TRUE advice

[Possessed Freak]

The 30 p4 assimilation, I will do seti if somebody can honestly tell me the machines will not behave 'badly' if 1) there are multiple heavy duty programs running (visual C++ and anything else ) 2) seti's server dies 3) the project ends.

badly = anything that would point to seti, like pinging the servers every 5 seconds, or beeping, or anything like that.

 

[Viztech]

OK PF.

What OS, RAM, Firewall, and any other data that you can add to the mix?

As we all know, Seti is the P4s game. What we need here is to look at all the possible downsides of this assimilation.

viz

 

[Joe]

i think that has been taken care of in the various third party addons

but,,,

in my opinion any application that utilizes 100% cant be hidden and forgotten, as much as we may like

I think if you run it you are responsible for it

which dosent mean it cant be hidden. .. just dont pretend you dont know whats going on

 

[Possessed Freak]

this much I know for sure:

win2k, 256 megs of rdram, some sort of firewall but all port access is allowed (would prefer if it could go through port 80)

and yes I know it can't be truly hidden, and I do have permission on these computers with the explicit understanding that the program gets kicked if anything bad happens. Which is why I am pro dnet programs because they are all the more seamless...

 

[artemedes]

Ok PF, I have also assimilated a nice corporate herd, and I do have permission, but many of the users are from the public and so to make sure that no one messes with the clients, I run it as a service at low priority and have it hidden. Since it is set to run in the background the seti client behaves just like the dnet client.

Since all of our computers use win98se I use a different means of achieving this.

If you need help, I would PM Sukhoi. He was volunteering such help just the other day, and probably has a script he can just send you.

It would be better to try and not have it work than to not attempt it and wonder.

Good luck.

 

[ElFenix]

would be interesting if there were a way to lock the screensaver, so that seti would run whenever the comps weren't in use...
of course compiling they're probably left alone so it would kick in then, i assume thats what you mean by heavy duty (since coding takes zero processor time)
the seti server dying can get around by using setiq on one comp (perhaps your workstation?) and just caching, then the other machines wouldn't ever have a problem with that. they won't ping the servers constantly. the clients will retry every hour, so at worst its every 2 minutes the server gets pinged. i haven't personally experienced instability traceable to the seti client (though that nvidia driver still isn't perfect, much better than it used to be), and it doesn't seem to slow down processing of other applications. i think with one of the monitoring programs its possible to set the client's priority even lower. and if you can get it to work as a service and tell windows to optimize for desktop applications that should help it. sukhoi has some service disks posted to his page, but i think hes on retreat somewhere.

EDIT: if you do a search for service, message posted by sukhoi, you'll find the link to the disks

 

[Viztech]

Hmmm, I hope one of the Seti experts will come along and help out, but why not install it as a service on a machine or two and see how it goes? Seti normally runs through port 80, and I think that the Seti server has been about as reliable as Orange Kid's proxy which is on port 5001 I believe.

I can see where potentially Seti will last longer than RC5, but we run the risk of Seti requiring another client change as has recently occured. The Dnet 463b client is bulletproof as you know, and can default back to the OGR project when RC5 ends (or vise-versa)

256 MB of RAM should be more than enough to satisfy the memory needs.

Shoot, just give it a try PF..

viz

 

[Possessed Freak]

might try it when I am there on a sat. (btw, this is not instantaneous, the comps are ordered and will be in within the month, then the images must be made).

 

[ColinP]

I use SetiHide to make it run invisibly. As far as I know, SETI runs at low priority and should give way to anything else (except other DistComp apps!!). I've never noticed any performance hits with it.

Occasionally, the servers do go down, but we all use SetiQueue which acts as a proxy and buffer. You could set it to buffer 10 days worth of WUs. You can also tell it what time of day to connect to the S'H servers. Just install it on one of the machines, point it to your proxy/firewall and point all of the other machines to it.

30 P4s will shoot you right up the ranking too !!!



Col