OK why is Polygamy Illegal?

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I saw a post the other day about mormons etc and someone commented on their belief in polygamy which has since been changed. but still i'm curious, in your opinion, why should polygamy remain illegal? why is it a crime and who is the victim?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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The victims are both the man and the women. It enables the man to be an asshole and hurts the women when by not giving them what pretty much all of them want: a dedicated man.

I would like to know why it has been made illegal, but I don't think it's healthy.

Nik
 

NorthenLove

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Because back then people thought that women were stupid and easliy duped and influenced a lot of people felt the need to protect their honor. Also the fact that it went in face of the very popular Christian beliefs of the time which is that a marriage should only be between one man and one woman.
 

PlatinumGold

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ffm

one could argue that alternative lifestyles in general are harmful and that "i don't agree w/ [insert any of the various alternative family types here, one parent, multiple parents divorced, homosexual partners, interracial partners, multiple parents due to divorce and remarriage etc etc.]", but should any of them be illegal? and why is polygamy singled out in this respect.

to be honest many americans practice SERIAL polygamy.
 

Nitemare

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Anyone ever hear of separation of church and state?


or is that only when it is convenient?
 

PlatinumGold

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nitemare

exactly

there are a lotta so called blue laws on the books, laws that are designed to enforce a certain said of religious, moral or ethical beliefs, no matter how ludicrous. they are called blue laws because by and large they are unenforced. the polygamy law however doesn't really fall under the blue law, it is vigourously enforced.

Why??
 

TheBlondOne

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I have no clue. I don't agree with it but if it's two consenting adults I don't see the problem. I think the gov should leave well enough alone on this one.

--Sarah
 

ViperXX

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I think it would be cool to have a bunch of wives. The house would always be cleaned. Dinner always on the table. In the evening there would be a lottery to see which wife got some nooky.
 



<< Wiser people are saving you from yourself. >>


Oh yea, the govt. is so wise and caring. All the legislation is made for the good of the people.

 

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<< ffm

one could argue that alternative lifestyles in general are harmful and that "i don't agree w/ [insert any of the various alternative family types here, one parent, multiple parents divorced, homosexual partners, interracial partners, multiple parents due to divorce and remarriage etc etc.]", but should any of them be illegal? and why is polygamy singled out in this respect.

to be honest many americans practice SERIAL polygamy.
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Well polygomy worked out with many non-Christian based cultures and civilzations ( before the Mormons came to be ) that did not have that taboo because most of them basiclly had rules that a man could only have as many wives as he could finacially support. Also the fact that women in these cultures had more marriage/divorce rights then their male counter part also helped to balanced out most problems faced with having more then one with wife.
 

Tauren

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<< Oh yea, the govt. is so wise and caring. All the legislation is made for the good of the people. >>




It was a smart ass quip meant to imply that one woman is waaaay more than enough.
 

Pepsei

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i don't think it is vigourously enforced. there are lots of mormons who practice this.

polygamy is usually viewed as 1 man, many wives... couldn't it also be 1 woman, many husbands?

strictly speaking, in some ancient society, polygamy were used as a mean of producing more off-springs

so is polygamy in a sense same thing as having multiple sexual partners at once? like some kids in college

now, introducing the defination of marriage into this... many polygamist could get away with just marrying once and live with many other so=called wives at the same time.

platnium is right... many people practice polygamy, just not at the same time.
 

dionx

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<< Anyone ever hear of separation of church and state?


or is that only when it is convenient?
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its not truly seperate. sure the churches don't have to pay taxes but in essence, they are being bought out by the state. when america goes to war, it's up to the churches to boost morale for soldiers and that it is their right to fight, etc etc. churches are a main support for advocates of war. i dont ever recall a large religious denomination against the war.
 

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<< I have no clue. I don't agree with it but if it's two consenting adults I don't see the problem. I think the gov should leave well enough alone on this one.

--Sarah
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Well, with polygamy it'd be more than 2 consenting adults. :)
 



<< It was a smart ass quip meant to imply that one woman is waaaay more than enough. >>


I know I caught on. ;)

The laws were definatly made by M E N!

;)
 

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i don't think it is vigourously enforced. there are lots of mormons who practice this.

so, are you saying it is a blue law?

actually it may not be enforced in utah, but in the rest of the US it is enforced.
 

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<< I think it would be cool to have a bunch of wives. The house would always be cleaned. Dinner always on the table. In the evening there would be a lottery to see which wife got some nooky. >>



THAT is why it's unhealthy. Think if you were in this situation, only reversed... you were married to this woman who you loved, but she had several other husbands. She could designate some of them to work and make all the money she could dream of spending, and she could designate some of them to stay at home and help her cook/clean/raise kids/etc. Imagine having to share your beloved wife with a bunch of other men... knowing that you can't tell which of her kids are yours also, or are other men's kids, having to split what time she actually wanted to have 'nooky' equally with her other husbands, not being cared about so much as an individual, but rather as a group or only being of worth as a money maker, not as a person [with all of your other aspects as well].

If you *really* think about it, I don't think you'd enjoy that situation very much.
 

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<< i don't think it is vigourously enforced. there are lots of mormons who practice this. >>


God...I live in Utah, Mormon ville USA, and mormons ARE NOT polygamists. All these "mormon polygamists" are not mormons, they broke away from the mormons cause like 120 years ago mormons dropped the polygamy thing but they thought they were better then that so they broke away from the mormons so they could still do polygamy.

Freaking A, and it is enforced, right now there is a polygamist always on tv cause of his polygamy trial. Down in southern utah in the middle of nowhere though polygamists do have their little villages where they try to get away from the law though.



<< there are lots of mormons who practice this. >>


SON OF A BITCH, DAMNIT EDUMACATE YOURSELVES, FREAKING BLOODY.
 

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<< I think it would be cool to have a bunch of wives. The house would always be cleaned. Dinner always on the table. In the evening there would be a lottery to see which wife got some nooky. >>



LOL!

Obviously you've never been married!! :)

Well, one of my friends from school, the best man at my wedding, came from a polygamist family. I didn't see a problem. 3,4,5 incomes for the family if they all work. As long as it's consentual I don't have a problem. Most likely it's the religions playing the "morality" card.

amish
 

Pepsei

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i knew this guy... his gf was into some new age thing and no sex before marriage thing.....

after they got married, she became a leader of some new age sex cult. they moved to colorado and she end up sleeping with everyone in the group except him.

poor guy.... he divorced her and lives in his RV collecting gov't check every month pretending to be psychotic.

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so if anti-polygamy law were made by men, isn't polygamy policy made by men too?

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that guy from utah got some media attention because some of his wives were underage at the time i believe.


 

ViperXX

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It was a joke. My one wife like's to nag. I can't even imagine listening to ten wives nag at once. I'd go insane.
 

littlelilith

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Technically, polygamy is having a committed relationship with more than one person simultaneously. If someone has a committed relationship, or marriage, with one person, than splits up/divorces, and has another such relationship, they're having multiple monogamies, not a polygamy. In more modern terms, I've heard of people (say, 2 men and a woman, or one man and 2 women) all having a committed relationship with each other - not only would people of the opposite sex in the relationship be committed to each other, but EVERYONE would be.. So I suppose relationships of that sort would involve either 1 straight person and 2 bisexual people or 3 bisexual people. I've also heard of the same sort of relationships (not marriages), but where the 2 men or the 2 women weren't involved with each other. Ah, complicated situations.. lol

And yes, there are [or have been] some areas where people practice polygamy, but there's 1 woman with multiple husbands.

I can't remember the name of this group, but I saw this thing on the Discovery channel or Learning channel or something on a tribal group who practiced this kind of Polygamy.. they live in tent-like structures, and there's a line hanging in front of the woman's tent. When one of her husbands is 'visiting' her and they want privacy, he hangs his cane outside on the line so the other men know not to disturb them. I thought that was kind of interesting [in a way], since any other time I'd heard of polygamy it was always one man with multiple wives.
 

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Personally I wouldn't want more than one ball and chain, but I don't think the government has any right to tell me that I can't do so if I wish. One more reason I am slowly turning from a democrat to a centrist.
 

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<< I think it would be cool to have a bunch of wives. The house would always be cleaned. Dinner always on the table. In the evening there would be a lottery to see which wife got some nooky. >>



THAT is why it's unhealthy. Think if you were in this situation, only reversed... you were married to this woman who you loved, but she had several other husbands. She could designate some of them to work and make all the money she could dream of spending, and she could designate some of them to stay at home and help her cook/clean/raise kids/etc. Imagine having to share your beloved wife with a bunch of other men... knowing that you can't tell which of her kids are yours also, or are other men's kids, having to split what time she actually wanted to have 'nooky' equally with her other husbands, not being cared about so much as an individual, but rather as a group or only being of worth as a money maker, not as a person [with all of your other aspects as well].

If you *really* think about it, I don't think you'd enjoy that situation very much.
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It is these peoples choice to be in a poligamist marriage, they are not forced. No, of course most people would not like that type of situation, and that is why they choose not to.get in that situation.