OK, who is dead set on voting for Trump?

[steppinthrax]

Just curious who is, get in here and justify your rational.

 

[Teabaghead]

Probably no Muslims!

 

[BoberFett]

Against Sanders, I'd vote Sanders.

Against Hillary, I'd vote Trump. For the lulz.

 

[Jimzz]

Depends who is still on the ballot when it opens in VA. In VA its a open primary so anybody can vote Dem or Rep.

Right now if Sanders is still there against Hillary I'll vote Sanders.

For Rep to much a mess right now to be 100%. I might vote for Trump just because party leaders are already trying to get him out if he wins the nomination. So a vote more against 1 then a vote for someone.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I am. America needs to hit rock bottom.

 

[steppinthrax]

I am. America needs to hit rock bottom.

LOL.

My thought, everyone vote for Trump, then America will burn....

LOL

 

[Hugo Drax]

Think about it, every story about a drug addict going clean is the moment they hit rock bottom and see the light.

I recommend everyone vote trump so we get back on the right path.

 

[rpanic]

I never thought Bush Jr or Obama were electable so I figure anything goes with Trump. Every Presidential election cycle the choices seem worse and worse so Trump vs Hilary or Sanders is the next step and Trump could win if the previous elections are an indicator of anything.

The only positive with Trump that I get is that he pisses off all the people that I can’t stand which is an achievement in itself but outside of that he seems like a hollow blowhard. My other choices are a cold corrupt lying bitch or a cuckold white guilt socialist that’s honest. Hope before the election we can just redraw all the cards.

 

[Subyman]

Think about it, every story about a drug addict going clean is the moment they hit rock bottom and see the light.

I recommend everyone vote trump so we get back on the right path.

Plenty die too and never see the light. Like a family member of mine.

Anyone that knowingly votes for a person that they believe is detrimental for the country needs to reevaluate themselves on a base level.

 

[hasu]

All ISIS fanatics will vote for Trump, an easy way to bring down this great country.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I've heard from various acquaintances -- notably around 2005 and thereafter -- "I always vote for the man and not the party."

Generally, in my personal choices, these two possibilities have never been in conflict. But especially with regard to Trump, there are some very serious issues about character, personality, and psychology. In fact, the word "issues" suggests something "in play." So replace it with the word "problems."

And the only way we'll find out depends on both the Primary and General outcome. With a background in statistics and sampling, I trust polls if they were designed and drawn properly. But they're a snapshot in time, and the respondents know that they're observations in a poll, and they know the poll isn't the voting-box poll that counts.

 

[kage69]

Plenty die too and never see the light. Like a family member of mine.

Anyone that knowingly votes for a person that they believe is detrimental for the country needs to reevaluate themselves on a base level.

I was going to say, sounds like he's never seen anyone battling a serious substance addiction up close. I have a family member still lost in those throes. My wife used to be a social worker in Baltimore. Addiction isn't a topic to use lightly, and trying to mesh it with national politics strikes me as...hilarious in a really depressing way.

I can understand people being upset by America's ugly political face, just not sure how cutting it's nose off to spite it really fixes anything. Sounds more like the beginning of slow, destructive avalanche that wipes out the good along with the bad.

Free country though, but like the cinnamon challenge or sticking your tongue in a light socket - don't expect pats on the back and praise of intelligence from others after you do it.

 

[thraashman]

I was going to say, sounds like he's never seen anyone battling a serious substance addiction up close. I have a family member still lost in those throes. My wife used to be a social worker in Baltimore. Addiction isn't a topic to use lightly, and trying to mesh it with national politics strikes me as...hilarious in a really depressing way.

I can understand people being upset by America's ugly political face, just not sure how cutting it's nose off to spite it really fixes anything. Sounds more like the beginning of slow, destructive avalanche that wipes out the good along with the bad.

Free country though, but like the cinnamon challenge or sticking your tongue in a light socket - don't expect pats on the back and praise of intelligence from others after you do it.

I think I have my knew favorite Trump analogy. Voting for Trump is like sticking your tongue in a light socket, it's unconventional and controversial, but that by no means makes it a good idea.

 

[kage69]

I think I have my knew favorite Trump analogy. Voting for Trump is like sticking your tongue in a light socket, it's unconventional and controversial, but that by no means makes it a good idea.

Anytime thraash, glad to help :biggrin:

 

[BoberFett]

Plenty die too and never see the light. Like a family member of mine.

Anyone that knowingly votes for a person that they believe is detrimental for the country needs to reevaluate themselves on a base level.

Hillary would be detrimental, yet many grovel at her feet because "at least she's not a Republican."

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Hillary would be detrimental, yet many grovel at her feet because "at least she's not a Republican."

The woman has been under attack since the mid-90s.

Do you mean "detrimental" like it might apply to the President for being black?

Among politicians, I like those who defer an opportunity to advance because they feel an obligation to pursue their existing elective or appointed office. It doesn't show so much in the news, but Elizabeth Warren has been a potent force so far in the emerging campaign.

 

[BoberFett]

The woman has been under attack since the mid-90s.

Do you mean "detrimental" like it might apply to the President for being black?

Among politicians, I like those who defer an opportunity to advance because they feel an obligation to pursue their existing elective or appointed office. It doesn't show so much in the news, but Elizabeth Warren has been a potent force so far in the emerging campaign.

Oh yeah, pro-war, pro-corporate Hillary, she's just so put upon. It's that awful right wing conspiracy.

And nice attempt at throwing the race card at me, you scum sucking hack.

Is this a second account here for you? I can't put my finger on who it might be, but your writing style reminds me of an old poster who tried desperately to convince everyone he was intelligent I saw your comment about you being a Mensa member in another thread, LOL) but mostly spouted nonsense. You use a lot of words, but have nothing to say.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Oh yeah, pro-war, pro-corporate Hillary, she's just so put upon. It's that awful right wing conspiracy.

And nice attempt at throwing the race card at me, you scum sucking hack.

Is this a second account here for you? I can't put my finger on who it might be, but your writing style reminds me of an old poster who tried desperately to convince everyone he was intelligent I saw your comment about you being a Mensa member in another thread, LOL) but mostly spouted nonsense. You use a lot of words, but have nothing to say.

Only one account. responding to the last idea, maybe it's "in the eye of the beholder." You decide.

on the second point, other than the name-calling, that, too, is a valid response.

On the first, point, we agree to some extent. But that's the murky world of the politics we've known for a long time. Since the politics has been corrupted with money, there's no doubt that many establishment politicians will appear to have -- or shown to have -- grubby hands. And on the war, she was wrong. so was McCain. And I was not only right, but I more or less predicted it over the span of July, 2000 to 9/10/2001. That is, I knew we were going to war in Iraq, even the day before going to war in Afghanistan became even a thought.

But it doesn't matter that Trump says "he has his own money." He's "under the influence" whether or not any money changes hands, and the folks who support him -- railing against the establishment and greasy palms -- had their rides paid for by the Koch brothers during the great demonstrations of 2010.

Tell ya what. You get Kasich nominated, and I'll give it some serious thought.

 

[EOM]

Anyone will vote for trump to keep Hilary or sanders out of office. The whole "lesser of two evils" thing.

 

[BxgJ]

Anyone will vote for trump to keep Hilary or sanders out of office. The whole "lesser of two evils" thing.

Actually no. I don't know exactly how many, but there are some who I have talked to, that when not around a group tell me they have never voted for a democrat nationally, but if it's Trump they will be voting straight democrat. Maybe as a message, I don't know. And maybe they won't do it when it comes down to it. But that's not the impression I get.

Anecdotal? Yeah, but it's not just a couple of people.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Actually no. I don't know exactly how many, but there are some who I have talked to, that when not around a group tell me they have never voted for a democrat nationally, but if it's Trump they will be voting straight democrat. Maybe as a message, I don't know. And maybe they won't do it when it comes down to it. But that's not the impression I get.

Anecdotal? Yeah, but it's not just a couple of people.

It's all in play . . . I'd prefer Sanders to Hillary, but I understand my options, and I don't abjure voting because I can't have only what I want from some mythical smorgasbord, which can't exist anyway. In fact, I think Sanders' basic theme is just a little off-center, but I don't disagree with it.

The remainder goes back to Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster, the spooge on Monica's dress, and what some Righties had told me was "that health-care thing" that Hillary was "pushing."

The furor over Benghazi seems like a bad joke. It mattered to the Repubs as to whether it was Al-Qaeda or "just some guys out for a walk.[etc.]" because if there was any solid evidence it was Al Qaeda, they could attempt to use it in the 2012 campaign, so they think they were "deprived" through some subterfuge or cover-up. Even if there's evidence involving the Enemy we'd been fighting since 2001, it was no different than other terrorist attacks from Beirut to Kobar Towers to the USS Cole or the first World Trade Center bombing. In fact, you can't discount the "video" explanation as complete nonsense, but it's the easiest quick-at-hand explanation Rice might have made, even as you can't substantively prove a link that's more than "a suggestion." And again -- multiple causation.

But the opposition was just ready to pounce on something like that. They, and the investigative committee, wouldn't let it go. They had to get as much propaganda mileage from it as possible. And now look at them.

Maybe George Romero should re-animate Roosevelt so we can put him on trial for Pearl Harbor.

 

[MongGrel]

Oh yeah, pro-war, pro-corporate Hillary, she's just so put upon. It's that awful right wing conspiracy.

And nice attempt at throwing the race card at me, you scum sucking hack.

Is this a second account here for you? I can't put my finger on who it might be, but your writing style reminds me of an old poster who tried desperately to convince everyone he was intelligent I saw your comment about you being a Mensa member in another thread, LOL) but mostly spouted nonsense. You use a lot of words, but have nothing to say.

I seriously doubt if he gives a crap what your opinion of him is

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I seriously doubt if he gives a crap what your opinion of him is

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: - :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

No words needed . . .

 

[kage69]

The woman has been under attack since the mid-90s.

Do you mean "detrimental" like it might apply to the President for being black?

Among politicians, I like those who defer an opportunity to advance because they feel an obligation to pursue their existing elective or appointed office. It doesn't show so much in the news, but Elizabeth Warren has been a potent force so far in the emerging campaign.

Likewise.

 

[werepossum]

Depends who is still on the ballot when it opens in VA. In VA its a open primary so anybody can vote Dem or Rep.

Right now if Sanders is still there against Hillary I'll vote Sanders.

For Rep to much a mess right now to be 100%. I might vote for Trump just because party leaders are already trying to get him out if he wins the nomination. So a vote more against 1 then a vote for someone.

Don't think I've really cast a Presidential vote since Reagan that was really for someone rather than against someone. Usually against two someones. Maybe Romney, I like him okay.

I've heard from various acquaintances -- notably around 2005 and thereafter -- "I always vote for the man and not the party."

Generally, in my personal choices, these two possibilities have never been in conflict. But especially with regard to Trump, there are some very serious issues about character, personality, and psychology. In fact, the word "issues" suggests something "in play." So replace it with the word "problems."

And the only way we'll find out depends on both the Primary and General outcome. With a background in statistics and sampling, I trust polls if they were designed and drawn properly. But they're a snapshot in time, and the respondents know that they're observations in a poll, and they know the poll isn't the voting-box poll that counts.

Usually when someone tells me "I always vote for the man and not the party" I know the man referenced is the man their party nominates.

EDIT: And sorry, Kasich's my guy which means he will drop out waaaay before Tennessee primaries.