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Ok wait....so i wont be able to play Crysis..hellgate..alan wake on windows xp...

Why is Microsoft hyping Vista as a gaming platform? I'm not understanding this. However, I would highly doubt all those games will require Vista, as it only says they'll be there for Vista's launch. Probably means they'll be optimized to take advantage of Vista in some way.
 
Originally posted by: FishTaco
I think Hellgate and Crysis both support DX9 and DX10. So you should be able to play them on XP, they'll just look better on vista with DX10.

And run slower I'm sure, assuming you have Vista and your fancy new G80/R600.

I think they just want all the PC gamers to give up in frustration and go out and buy an Xbox.

WTF anyway - Hellgate: London doesn't look *that* good, not that I'd judge it on graphics. The release period has also been all over the place. Let's just turn over our souls to M$ and get it over with.


 
Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
Originally posted by: FishTaco
I think Hellgate and Crysis both support DX9 and DX10. So you should be able to play them on XP, they'll just look better on vista with DX10.

And run slower I'm sure, assuming you have Vista and your fancy new G80/R600.

I think they just want all the PC gamers to give up in frustration and go out and buy an Xbox.

WTF anyway - Hellgate: London doesn't look *that* good, not that I'd judge it on graphics. The release period has also been all over the place. Let's just turn over our souls to M$ and get it over with.

hellgate london's GAMEPLAY looks good, which is even better than graphics.. why is starcraft still so popular? GAMEPLAY
 
I think Crysis is a Vista only title. Only reason for inclusion of DX9 is probably because a DX9 card will be the minimum required for vista.
 
Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo

I think they just want all the PC gamers to give up in frustration and go out and buy an Xbox.

Which is what a lot of people might just do, considering an X-Box 360+a HDTV are probably cheaper than Vista+a high end DX10 card.
 
Originally posted by: Looney
Yep, some of those games are only available on Vista. Which is why DX10 is going to be adopted very quickly.

nonsense

[or link please]

Vista is going to be adopted very slowly . . . and it would be financial SUICIDE to have a "Vista only" game [uless it is a MS game and they have bucks to squander on crap].
 
So DX 10 will not be on XP platform at all? This marketing tool is used to force move us to Vista even tho Xp pro will prolly be fine for a while yet? Games that are made with dx 10, will they not run at all on dx9 systems?

I am dreading the idea of being forced to upgrade an operating system when my current xp pro is still fine and dandy.
 
Fvcking absurd.

To think I was going to buy Hellgate.

From everything I've read thus far, Vista is gonna be crap. DRM/HDCP up the ass, cutesy and bloated GUI, no real advantages over XP (correct me here, but XP is pretty damn solid, gets the job done).

So I really don't feel like dropping all the $$ for a new DX10 AFTER JUST BUYING ONE, not to mention Vista will be $$$$.

If it really turns out like that I'll say fvck PC gaming and get a console, even though I've been all PC gamer for many years.
 
Originally posted by: SithSolo1
I think Crysis is a Vista only title. Only reason for inclusion of DX9 is probably because a DX9 card will be the minimum required for vista.
that doesnt even make sense. the ONLY reason any game will be a "Vista only" game is if it is DX10 only. we all know Crysis is DX9 compatible so you will be able to play it on Windows XP. they even said the game will be available this fall which is before Vista. use a little common sense before making a crazy post.
 
Originally posted by: Noema
Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo

I think they just want all the PC gamers to give up in frustration and go out and buy an Xbox.

Which is what a lot of people might just do, considering an X-Box 360+a HDTV are probably cheaper than Vista+a high end DX10 card.


XBOX 360 is only a DX9 sysytem.If some game required DX10 to run properly, well it will need work/conversion to work at a playable level on dx9(xbox360)
 
let's set the record straight about a few things...

Crysis: everything seen so far has been running on DX9 hardware. The game will be very scalable - a card supporting SM2.0 is the minimum requirement.

XBox 360: does not use anything remotely like DX9. Has a customised graphics API with some capabilities equalling DX10.

Vista: has been redesigned from the ground up. It'll be more stable, secure etc. Will be able to use GPUs as efficiently as they are in games consoles. Even DX9 ones.
 
Originally posted by: meatfestival
Vista: has been redesigned from the ground up. It'll be more stable, secure etc. Will be able to use GPUs as efficiently as they are in games consoles. Even DX9 ones.
There's a quote from one of the gaming blogs talking to a DX10 developer saying where basically said that the differences between DX9 and DX10 were so vast that they couldn't get DX10 to run on Windows XP.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: meatfestival
Vista: has been redesigned from the ground up. It'll be more stable, secure etc. Will be able to use GPUs as efficiently as they are in games consoles. Even DX9 ones.
There's a quote from one of the gaming blogs talking to a DX10 developer saying where basically said that the differences between DX9 and DX10 were so vast that they couldn't get DX10 to run on Windows XP.

who cares it's gonna be THREE years before we see ANY "full DX10" games.

that gives me time to migrate to XP from Win2k. 😛
😀
 
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: meatfestival
Vista: has been redesigned from the ground up. It'll be more stable, secure etc. Will be able to use GPUs as efficiently as they are in games consoles. Even DX9 ones.
There's a quote from one of the gaming blogs talking to a DX10 developer saying where basically said that the differences between DX9 and DX10 were so vast that they couldn't get DX10 to run on Windows XP.

who cares it's gonna be THREE years before we see ANY "full DX10" games.

that gives me time to migrate to XP from Win2k. 😛
😀

at E3, Crysis was being run in DX9, so there may be hope!

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gamereviews/345/2/


 
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