Ok, now I am calling for KNIFE CONTROL!!!

[Ulfwald]

Well, here is another "evil weapon" for all you liberal gun grabbers to go after.

Man Kills 4 Students at Japan School

So you say that a knife can't do much damage? Read the article and see.



<< A man armed with a knife forced his way into an elementary school in western Japan Friday and stabbed at least 26 children and teachers, killing four of the students, fire department officials said. >>




Just another reason for a well armed society.

 

[dafatha00]

Repost

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&amp;threadid=460739

 

[snakesnfrogs]

That does it! I'm cancelling my National Cutlery Membership. I've seen the light. Starting tomorrow, I will spend all my free time trying to get knife control legislation passed---what's my congressman's #?

 

[RGN]

You ca't have my knife.


But you can pry it from my cold dead fingers.

 

[Aihyah]

what kind of idiot are you.

he stabbed little children.

&quot;said 23 children, mostly first and second graders, and three teachers were injured in the attack&quot;

If those had been teenagers or adults he probably wouldn't have been able to get very far. That is the difference between knives and guns.. plus the extra level of crazy you have to achieve to use a knife. Stabbing someone is a very personal thing, get up close and personal.. you feel the other persons insides. guns distance you from the experience.. squeeze trigger someone dies. if you were trying to make a point... try again.

and just imagine how many children would be dead if he simply had a gun.. most any gun. common sense.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

<< if you were trying to make a point >>

No pun intended?

 

[Nutdotnet]

WORD

 

[Angrymarshmello]

<< what kind of idiot are you.

he stabbed little children.

&quot;said 23 children, mostly first and second graders, and three teachers were injured in the attack&quot;

If those had been teenagers or adults he probably wouldn't have been able to get very far. That is the difference between knives and guns.. plus the extra level of crazy you have to achieve to use a knife. Stabbing someone is a very personal thing, get up close and personal.. you feel the other persons insides. guns distance you from the experience.. squeeze trigger someone dies. if you were trying to make a point... try again.

and just imagine how many children would be dead if he simply had a gun.. most any gun. common sense. >>



Um, how many average joes do you know can disarm a thug with a knife? If you say more than 1 out of 100, then I'll say thats bull $hit. It's pretty easy to stab a group of people - as easy as it is to go and pump a few rounds into random people with a gun. And it's also harder to disarm a person with a knife - with a gun, once they hit empty you disarm them. It's not that easy with a knife.

 

[1967mustangman]

Speaking of knife control I am sure we all heard about the girl who was not allowed to walk at her graduation ceremony ecause of the kitchen knife in her car.

 

[pen^2]

ragingbitch says knife == unlimited ammo
me says werd

 

[OS]

<< And it's also harder to disarm a person with a knife - with a gun, once they hit empty you disarm them. >>



whatever, so you just want to wait until they empty the clip? Ak-47s hold what, 37 rounds? So up to 37 dead people before you can stop them? What if they have more than one gun?

If they have a knife, all you need is a freaking nice long pipe to take him out. I'd be more than happy to take out a knife wielding guy with a pipe. Can't say the same for a guy with a gun.

Actually, as already mentioned the reason this guy got so far is because he went to a freaking elementary school for his stabbing spree. Try that at like at a college in a ghetto and you might not even get past victim one.

 

[Cooltech2k]

If he had tried that in my High school, I Guarantee you he would not have gotten more than 1 or 2 swings in before he had 4 more knives coming at him.....

The sickest part of this I Believe is the fact that it was a fliping elementary school!!! I MEan grow up &amp; Pick on someone you own size.

 

[Aihyah]

Um, how many average joes do you know can disarm a thug with a knife? If you say more than 1 out of 100, then I'll say thats bull $hit. It's pretty easy to stab a group of people - as easy as it is to go and pump a few rounds into random people with a gun. And it's also harder to disarm a person with a knife - with a gun, once they hit empty you disarm them. It's not that easy with a knife.

nice try, but we're talking crazed mass killings here not one on one sparring. meaning 1 nutty guy with a knife against many adults. you might get away with stabbing one or two people before you get mobbed buncha people against 1 guy with a gun? haha funny.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

<< whatever, so you just want to wait until they empty the clip? Ak-47s hold what, 37 rounds? So up to 37 dead people before you can stop them? What if they have more than one gun?

If they have a knife, all you need is a freaking nice long pipe to take him out. I'd be more than happy to take out a knife wielding guy with a pipe. Can't say the same for a guy with a gun.

Actually, as already mentioned the reason this guy got so far is because he went to a freaking elementary school for his stabbing spree. Try that at like at a college in a ghetto and you might not even get past victim one. >>



Your thinking isn't all correct - 1 bullet does not equal 1 dead person. Hell, at Columbine and that Arkansas school shooting, those boys shot off hundreds of rounds. 6 dead at the AK school, and I think 13 at Columbine.

Oh yea, I just happen to carry a nice long pipe with me everywhere I go. I'm sure you do to, right? If you're going to make hypothetical assumptions that everyone carries a pipe, you might as well assume everyone carries a gun and can just kill the knife wielding guy.

Like I said earlier, can you disarm someone with a knife? Most people won't know what happened to them until they've been stabbed. With a gun you hear gun shots and either you run, hit the floor for cover, or stand there and get shot.

 

[datalink7]

Ulfwald:

I just have to say that it is pretty tastless to use this sad event to advance your political agenda.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

<< nice try, but we're talking crazed mass killings here not one on one sparring. meaning 1 nutty guy with a knife against many adults. you might get away with stabbing one or two people before you get mobbed buncha people against 1 guy with a gun? haha funny. >>



If you and a group of friends were right next to some guy who started opening fire at someone, (pretend you're on his blind side) would you guys not try to stop him? Yea, but a guy with a knife - oh he's not dangerous at all.

 

[Elledan]

I rather have a madman walking around in my school who is carrying a knife, than one who carries an (automatic) rifle.

Unlike a bullet, a stabbing wound isn't lethal usually. It requires a lot of skill to kill someone with a knife in just a few stabs. Of course, young children die more easily, since it's more likely that the knife 'hits home', due to the smaller body.

 

[Angrymarshmello]

data - he's making a point that anti-weapon people will use this as a reason to get their legislation passed. It's sad and tragic anyone had to die. Would banning knives have done anything? No. Hell this happened in Japan, which has the lowest crime rate in the world.

 

[Ulfwald]

So you think it is sick that I use an incident like this to ppromote my political agenda? What about the fact that Bill Clinton and the rest of the Liberal Left used the Columbine and other school shootings to promote theirs? Oh it is ok for the left to do it, but let one of us Right Wing Libertarians do the same thing, and all the sudden we are evil, we HATE everyone.

BAH.

 

[RU482]

PC freaks, keep on ruining America

 

[JohnnyKnoxville]

Next thing you will tell me is that its impossible to kill someone with a ball point pen

 

[KaBudokan]

Another oh-so-convincing Ulfwald gun post.

Oh happy happy joy joy.

 

[OS]

<< Your thinking isn't all correct - 1 bullet does not equal 1 dead person. Hell, at Columbine and that Arkansas school shooting, those boys shot off hundreds of rounds. 6 dead at the AK school, and I think 13 at Columbine. >>



Too bad you didn't really read my post. I said &quot;up to&quot;. Sure, we can assume 50% fatality, that's what, 18 dead people? Or maybe 25%, 9 dead people? That's still more than that guy in japan.




<< Oh yea, I just happen to carry a nice long pipe with me everywhere I go. I'm sure you do to, right? If you're going to make hypothetical assumptions that everyone carries a pipe, you might as well assume everyone carries a gun and can just kill the knife wielding guy. >>



What a coincidence, actually I do. I always have a pipe in my car. But any long blunt object will do, they are easy to come by. And if I'm just walking around, I always carry pepper spray. I'd much rather have pepper spray than a knife. LOTS of people have pepper spray or mace, chicks carry that crap around. I am capable of responding to any non projectile weapon on a day to day basis with the things I carry around. Try that knife sh!t around me and I have no problems smashing skulls in or filling faces with mace. But if someone pulls a gun on me, I am screwed.




<< Like I said earlier, can you disarm someone with a knife? Most people won't know what happened to them until they've been stabbed. With a gun you hear gun shots and either you run, hit the floor for cover, or stand there and get shot. >>



See above.

I will admit though not everyone has the same mindset as me. But someone with a gun will get farther and be harder to stop than someone with a knife.

 

[LordMaul]

<< Ulfwald:

I just have to say that it is pretty tastless to use this sad event to advance your political agenda. >>



Eh? And what about Columbine? What have all the gun-control flappers been whining about and using for THEIR &quot;political agenda&quot;?

OH please.

 

[Red Dawn]

Killing somebody with a knife is dangerous to your own well being. You usually have to stab them many times and if you hit a bone the blade will deflect off of it. With a gun it takes no physical effort and usually a shot to the head will explode it like a watermelon . Plus when you stab someone you are going to get blood on your person. That will be it extremely easy for them to track you down. With a gun all you have to do is get within 10 feet bada bing bada bang and the suckers dead and you can make youe getaway. I bet that if people had to use a knife they probably wouldn't do it. Also a gun more than even's the odds if you are going to punk some big dude. Killing someone with a gun kind of desensitizes the act where as a knife would usually get you very emotionally involved.