Ok- looks like it's a fairly close race.

Discussion in 'Politics and News' started by Hayabusa Rider, Nov 6, 2012.

  1. actuarial

    actuarial Platinum Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2009
    Messages:
    2,814
    Likes Received:
    0
    The issue is that, given the current system, the popular vote isn't necessarily representative of the proportion of people that support Obama vs Romney.

    The fact that votes are meaningless in many states (since they are already so heavily in one camp) likely has an impact on participation, and if the decision was made on a true popular vote the current splits may not hold.

    I'm not saying the impact is one way or the other, but the popular vote tally under the current system isn't just meaningless because it doesn't determine who the president is, it's meaningless because it's unlikely to be a true indication of the popularity of either candidate.
     
  2. Perknose

    Perknose Forum Director & Omnipotent Overlord
    Forum Director

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 1999
    Messages:
    40,180
    Likes Received:
    40
    Our country desperately needs a a Republican Party that is sane and responsible and non-obstructionist nut-case collection.

    I hope this presages the end of the death grip that the Taliban-like far right has on the GOP, but I don't think we've reached that point as yet.

    Sad, that. :(
     
  3. shadow9d9

    shadow9d9 Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2004
    Messages:
    8,133
    Likes Received:
    1
    300+ to 200...SOOO close! Spin spin spin away.
     
  4. EagleKeeper

    EagleKeeper Discussion Club Moderator<br>Elite Member
    Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2000
    Messages:
    42,600
    Likes Received:
    0
    The EC is less of any mandate indication as is the overall popular vote.

    Yet the popular vote can be skewed because of lack of participation in states that area solid lock to one direction of another.

    A million people may not have voted in NY and NJ for the reason of the storm; yet it does not have any impact on the EC votes delivered.

    Same in CA; lazy Dems do not get out to vote because they know their state is already locked up.
    Republicans also realize that their vote for president is having no impact.
    TX may be the same as CA in reverse.

    Only incentive is for state and local issues.
     
  5. Charles Kozierok

    Charles Kozierok Elite Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2012
    Messages:
    6,762
    Likes Received:
    0
    The "popular vote" as measured in an EC election means nothing. In order to really know who would have won such an election, we need to have such an election.
     
  6. shadow9d9

    shadow9d9 Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2004
    Messages:
    8,133
    Likes Received:
    1
    Since the EC has been around since the inception of the US, that is all that matters. Nate silver at 538 was 100% correct.. to claim that it was "close" was and is an absolute JOKE.