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OK... JR's turn (YAReligionThread)

JoLLyRoGer

Diamond Member
No Cliffs, either read it or don't.

Inspired by a post in another thread where someone said "You can't have religion without faith" and I believe that much is true. However I maintain that you can have faith without religion. What follows is going to be hard to swallow for some and my make sense to others. It may even sound a little Moonbeam-ish, I don't know, but here is what I have faith in.

I believe that there is a power higher than man and I believe that we will one day become more than what we are. I can't fathom that life just ends and that's it. I believe that all living creatures have a soul that is intangable and that soul transitions after death. To where or to what I can't say. But there is definately a transformation that takes place when someone dies. It's more than just unconsciousness, it's lifelessness and that soul has left that body and transisioned. You can see this much with your own eyes. That is what I have faith in and here is where I start to differ from religion.

I've had this idea that I've been pondering for more than a few years now and it came to me one day from an old aquaintance and the more I've thought about it, the more sense it makes. What if we are the Supreme Being and what if we are the Angles? Before you hit the reply button, think about this for a minute and let it soak in. When we help one another, that's when we are the Angles. I'm sure everyone has had some life defining moment when someone else was there to help them out. Or you made a decision and didn't know why it was the right decision until after the fact.

You see, I dont' believe in Fate, or Heaven or Hell or that anything just arbitrarily happens. Everything, good and bad, happens for a reason. I believe that we all make decisions and that some of those more important decisions are influenced by a higher power, something more than us as individuals. Call it a universal life force if you will, and it's this life force that guides us all even if we are not consciously aware of it, which ties back into the idea that we are the supreme being. To fully understand this, follow me as I explain this next bit.

In most organized religion, God, Buddah, Allah, whatever is all-knowing and all-seeing. I don't feel that this is too far from the truth. But where does the knowledge come from? What happens when our soul leaves this body? I think it re-joins with the life force. You, me, every living thing will re-join with this force and it is at that point that we become the supreme being. It is there where we will have knowledge of each others thoughs, feeling, and experiences. Everything we know will be shared with one another along with all of the thoughs, feelings, and experiences of those who have gone before us and thus establishing the supreme knowledge. Then we as the life force will be there to guide the next generation.

To further re-enforce the point. People are going to laugh at me, but that's OK. This isn't an idea that's very mainstream or even easily accepted. I makes sense if you think about it. Most people aren't ready to accept the idea that we are the supreme being, which is why we have God, Allah, and Buddah, etc. It's hard to fathom that we're it, so we take this life force that is within us and we place it 'out there' on a pedistal because it's easier to separate ourselves from 'God' than it is to accept that we could be a part of 'God'.

Now, am I right? Am I wrong?... I honestly don't know. But that doesn't make me any different from any other Catholic, Baptist, Muslim, or Jew if you get right down to it. They may think they know, but they don't really KNOW. But hey, that's why it's called "Faith". Now does that mean that all of the above ramblings is a 'Religion', or even my 'Religion'? I say no. In fact, I'm not sure I even truely believe all of that, but like I said in the beginning; It's just a though I've been pondering for about 3 years now and it makes about as much sense to me as anything else I've been told. Plus I think it's better than just blindly accepting something someone read to me out of a book.

Again, let this sink in a while before you reply...

JR.

 
it's a very interesting take on things. thanks for sharing.

and you did it without bashing or demeaning anyone else. people here could learn from you.
 
I think in order to subscribe to religion you need to master the art of blind faith which in turn makes you totally narrow minded and unable to grasp other plausible concepts because that shat has been pounded in your brain since birth.

Of course this is just my opinion.

Ausm
 
sounds like you believe in The Force


and yes, i know lucas based The Force on a religion, and i'm sure a star wars geek will name it for me shortly
 
Originally posted by: Ausm
I think in order to subscribe to religion you need to master the art of blind faith which in turn makes you totally narrow minded and unable to grasp other plausible concepts because that shat has been pounded in your brain since birth.

Of course this is just my opinion.

Ausm
who's more narrow-minded? the religious man or the non-religious?

insofar as blind faith, that's the only kind i know of. if something is right in front of you and can be experienced with the five senses, then you don't need faith anymore.

just a couple comments for discussion's sake.
 
That is generally the same idea that many religions have. Druids believed in a life force that everyone was a part of. There are no "gods", just a general "power" that is all living things, the Earth, Universe, everything.

I also believe in this.
 
Originally posted by: Ausm
I think in order to subscribe to religion you need to master the art of blind faith which in turn makes you totally narrow minded and unable to grasp other plausible concepts because that shat has been pounded in your brain since birth.

Of course this is just my opinion.

Ausm

Agreed.
 
Originally posted by: edro
That is generally the same idea that many religions have. Druids believed in a life force that everyone was a part of. There are no "gods", just a general "power" that is all living things, the Earth, Universe, everything.

I also believe in this.

That somewhat sums it up. I suppose where I differ is that I believe in more that just a general power in the sense that this power shares a collective consciousness with each of us.
 
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