Ok,I want to move to California

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CTrain

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Originally posted by: Montano
Born and raised in CA :D I have traveled to (and lived in) several other states while in the service. I could not wait to come back home!! Biggest part is the wonderful weather here in the
San Jouquin Valley:D:D:D:D I wear shorts to work all year round :) If I want to see snow, I just drive up to the mountains. If I want to go to the beach, I just drive over to the coast. It doesn't get any better than California livin' :beer:

You said all.
Let me add that theres no humidity like Texas or Florida.
You can always head to Vegas for gambling too but then again, you can gamble anywhere these days.
 

trmiv

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I love California, born and raised here. San Jose to Fremont to San Jose, and back to Fremont. I've loved living here. That said, this is NOT the place you want to move. If you're in IT, forget about moving to California, they're aren't any jobs! And, like other's have mentioned, good luck affording a house in the Silicon Valley if that's where you want to live, unless you're making $200,000 a year. My parent's recently moved to the Modesto area, which is MUCH more reasonable for house prices. Their condo in the Bay Area was worth enough that they could not even get approved for a loan for it now if they wanted to buy it back or something. But, they were able to get a 4 bedroom house in the Modesto area for $280,000. Too bad there are even fewer jobs out there. I live in Fremont, which is nice, but my wife and I will never be able to afford a house here.
 

shopbruin

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: notfred

Here's an actual house nearby.

Damn, looking at those prices, my parent's house has to be worth about $750k. They bought it for $265k in 1996. But go ahead, buy your $80k house in Ohio, I'm sure in 8 years it'll still be worth at least $80k.

holy jesus christ on a crutch how do you people afford to eat?

well they do pay people more out here... to compensate.
 

Apex

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Originally posted by: freesia39
Originally posted by: Apex
You should definitely live in SoCal. Who wouldn't love the home pricing?

Quaint little 3 bedroom, 1.75 bath (that's just 1 full bath) home here in SoCal.

Not enough bathrooms? Get 1/2 a bathroom more. 3 bedroom, 2.25 bath

Edit:

1 more for you, in case you don't need 3 rooms:

2 bedroom, 2.5 bath... Can you guess the price?

dude its RPV/RHE. that is some EXPENSIVE property. the donald is building his new golf course there. ocean views, very quiet neighborhoods full of old rich people, rolling hills (literally...) it is going to be off the charts there. plus some of those looked like they were on large swaths of land, even though they don't give the acreage.

now i cry more when i look for just a little condo to maybe buy someday. but at over 300k? freak no.

Some of the more expensive, but there's definitely worse out there in CA. :) I got to say though. More than $6.9 million for a 2 bedroom 2.5 bath is just gross.

 

nageov3t

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See, the difference is that the one in the Republik of Kalifornia may be a house, but you can turn the one in Ohio into a home. There's more to the place you live than an investment.

yeah, but you'll be in Ohio.

question for all the San Jose'ers... what are rents like? I've been thinking about asking for a transfer out to Mountain View, but I have no clue if I could afford it without a substantial raise (not looking to buy a house, though... just rent a decent 1-bedroom or studio).
 

Geekbabe

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I'm thinking that if I just threaten to beat down all of you unless you each paypal me $2 or $3 dollars that I'll be able to afford a downpayment on a house.We'll call it the house that ATOT built.Since I'm fair I'll get a place with a huge basement and put a computer down there,so when you basement dwellers visit you'll feel at home:)
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: HotChic
I can't wait to move back to NorCal from Seattle.

<----- 6th generation Californian.

:(

Cheers,
Aquaman <<<<<<<<< moves further away from the Aquaman :( ;)
 

Bateluer

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Its just as hot here in Phoenix right now. Heck, its hotter than that in the summer at 0230. :p
 

AreaCode707

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Originally posted by: Aquaman
Originally posted by: HotChic
I can't wait to move back to NorCal from Seattle.

<----- 6th generation Californian.

:(

Cheers,
Aquaman <<<<<<<<< moves further away from the Aquaman :( ;)

Well I'm not moving yet! I just want to. :)
 

Ameesh

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Originally posted by: Apex
Originally posted by: freesia39
Originally posted by: Apex
You should definitely live in SoCal. Who wouldn't love the home pricing?

Quaint little 3 bedroom, 1.75 bath (that's just 1 full bath) home here in SoCal.

Not enough bathrooms? Get 1/2 a bathroom more. 3 bedroom, 2.25 bath

Edit:

1 more for you, in case you don't need 3 rooms:

2 bedroom, 2.5 bath... Can you guess the price?

dude its RPV/RHE. that is some EXPENSIVE property. the donald is building his new golf course there. ocean views, very quiet neighborhoods full of old rich people, rolling hills (literally...) it is going to be off the charts there. plus some of those looked like they were on large swaths of land, even though they don't give the acreage.

now i cry more when i look for just a little condo to maybe buy someday. but at over 300k? freak no.

Some of the more expensive, but there's definitely worse out there in CA. :) I got to say though. More than $6.9 million for a 2 bedroom 2.5 bath is just gross.
palos verdes is one of the most expensive cities in the country, all of california is not like that, hell its not even 10% of that
 

Aquaman

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Originally posted by: HotChic
Originally posted by: Aquaman
Originally posted by: HotChic
I can't wait to move back to NorCal from Seattle.

<----- 6th generation Californian.

:(

Cheers,
Aquaman <<<<<<<<< moves further away from the Aquaman :( ;)

Well I'm not moving yet! I just want to. :)

:heart: Come up for some good sushi before you go :)

Cheers,
Aquaman
 

habib89

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woo hoo!! yes, norcal does rock.. and yes, san jose does rule.. and san francisco owns... and... well i don't have any more verbs... or are they adverbs?? anyhow norcal is just the best place ever.. i don't understand why there are people who don't like cali, cause cali's got anything and everything... best state evar!
 

Michael

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I preferred to live in Hermosa Beach, but Pleasanton was pretty nice (I'm in Singapore now and will be here for a few years more - renting my house in Pleasanton out).

Geekbabe - There really are no basements in the SF area, so scratch the idea of getting a house with one. I moved to CA twice (grew up in Montreal and lived in NJ for a while as well). The weather is really nice and the people were fine. Housing is expensive for what you get. Mind you, I paid $450K for my house and it could easily sell for $700K 5 years later....

Michael
 

BatmanNate

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
now to find a job here.


This place is fabulous,I love it and think I'd fit right in.Imagine,it's Oct and I'm running around in flip flops:)

Fitting in with Californians is nothing to brag about. :p
 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: notfred
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Originally posted by: Apex
You should definitely live in SoCal. Who wouldn't love the home pricing?

Quaint little 3 bedroom, 1.75 bath (that's just 1 full bath) home here in SoCal.

Not enough bathrooms? Get 1/2 a bathroom more. 3 bedroom, 2.25 bath

Edit:

1 more for you, in case you don't need 3 rooms:

2 bedroom, 2.5 bath... Can you guess the price?

.... Single Family Property ....
yikes! Maybe for Britney Spears and her trailerpark groom

EDIT:
Estimated payment:
$14,710 Per Month*

uhm, that's me buying a new car/truck each month for the next 20 years.

Well, you don't have to pick the MOST EXPENSIVE neighborhoods in the state. This might be a bit more in your price range.

Here's an actual house nearby.

Damn, looking at those prices, my parent's house has to be worth about $750k. They bought it for $265k in 1996. But go ahead, buy your $80k house in Ohio, I'm sure in 8 years it'll still be worth at least $80k.

See, the difference is that the one in the Republik of Kalifornia may be a house, but you can turn the one in Ohio into a home. There's more to the place you live than an investment.

I'd like to hear your argument that the house in California can't be both an investment AND a home.


heh no kidding. i can buy like 10 houses in china or some other less then developed country. doesn't mean much about how good it is to live there.

and its not all that different. in ohio your home is cheap, but your wages are ohio wages:p
 

Mill

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Any market that has such prices and such massive swings in the market is a LOT more unstable compared to where many of us live. There's a good chance you can turn your 900k house into a profit, but I do honestly believe there is a bubble in California. Not only are states such as Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, etc appealing to native Californians now, but the rate of immigration to the state(I'm speaking of US Citizens) will lessen as people are priced out of the state. For me the choice is quite clear. I live in a state with very low taxes, very decent employment rates if you have a brain, very cheap property and cost of living. I *could* move to Cali and buy a more expensive and smaller home, but why? As with anywhere you can find enclaves of rich/great school systems, and where I live has pretty good weather(not withstanding bastard hurricanes or tornadoes).

I know there is a cost of living adjustment is salary for living in CA, but you can bet your ass that if the market there starts shrinking -- well then it is likely that the economy and job growth will shrink as well. Basically what I'm trying to say is that there is a good chance that California is reaching saturation in jobs, real-estate, etc. Many people are going to stop moving there and/or move out, and I do believe it is going to have a pretty negative impact on the State's economy, and the State's services. I base this simply on the fact that I feel the housing market as well as pretty much the entire lifestyle there is inflated. The current demand for housing is simply unsustainable and rising rates are going to negatively impact the market there. People are going to move or not *move* there in the first place because they will see that they simply cannot afford it. The economic growth and resulting real-estate growth that California has had is not sustainable. The economy is cyclic and will correct itself when it goes through and especially egregious pattern of growth. There will be a correction soon and I do think that the economy there will suffer. That's one man's opinion. The saving grace for Cali is that they have a HEAVILY diversifed economy, so I think that any collapse won't be because of specifc segment of the economy, but based on the state as a whole.
 

DurocShark

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I'm near San Jose, it's awesome here,everytime I come out here I love it even more.


We're in a valley which equals nice,flat roads, I'm going biking later:)

Too bad. I prolly could have set you up with something in Orange County.
 

Darien

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I've been born and raised in California. I want to get out -- costs too much to live here.

...but living near mwave.com has its perks :D
 

DurocShark

Lifer
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Originally posted by: KLin
Originally posted by: CTrain
"Ok,I want to move to California"

I've said that all my life and now I'm here.
Repesentin NoCal.

NorCal, not NoCal. :p

He must have heard about NoHo!



(North Hollywood for the uninitiated...)
 

faZZter

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Originally posted by: Mill
Any market that has such prices and such massive swings in the market is a LOT more unstable compared to where many of us live. There's a good chance you can turn your 900k house into a profit, but I do honestly believe there is a bubble in California. Not only are states such as Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, etc appealing to native Californians now, but the rate of immigration to the state(I'm speaking of US Citizens) will lessen as people are priced out of the state. For me the choice is quite clear. I live in a state with very low taxes, very decent employment rates if you have a brain, very cheap property and cost of living. I *could* move to Cali and buy a more expensive and smaller home, but why? As with anywhere you can find enclaves of rich/great school systems, and where I live has pretty good weather(not withstanding bastard hurricanes or tornadoes).

I know there is a cost of living adjustment is salary for living in CA, but you can bet your ass that if the market there starts shrinking -- well then it is likely that the economy and job growth will shrink as well. Basically what I'm trying to say is that there is a good chance that California is reaching saturation in jobs, real-estate, etc. Many people are going to stop moving there and/or move out, and I do believe it is going to have a pretty negative impact on the State's economy, and the State's services. I base this simply on the fact that I feel the housing market as well as pretty much the entire lifestyle there is inflated. The current demand for housing is simply unsustainable and rising rates are going to negatively impact the market there. People are going to move or not *move* there in the first place because they will see that they simply cannot afford it. The economic growth and resulting real-estate growth that California has had is not sustainable. The economy is cyclic and will correct itself when it goes through and especially egregious pattern of growth. There will be a correction soon and I do think that the economy there will suffer. That's one man's opinion. The saving grace for Cali is that they have a HEAVILY diversifed economy, so I think that any collapse won't be because of specifc segment of the economy, but based on the state as a whole.

People don't need to move here for the population to keep exploding and demand for housing to increase.

The Latinos in the state are ensuring this...... (no insult)

I don't think housing prices in CA are going down much at all anytime soon. My house has been BY FAR the best investment I could have made in the last 3 years.

Also, to the person who loved San Diego......I would agree. If I was to move to any "big" city, it would be San Diego (if I could afford it). It is awesome there....only bad thing is the San Diego Chargers!
 

Geekbabe

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I'm from Boston,so I'm no stranger to high housing costs.I'm just saying that it's beautiful out here,the sun is shining,the humidity is low,there are tons of cool birds and plants,trees here.The people seem cool here, there's nothing not to like.

Why I don't believe in God but if there is a heaven surely it must be California:)
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: faZZter
Originally posted by: Mill
Any market that has such prices and such massive swings in the market is a LOT more unstable compared to where many of us live. There's a good chance you can turn your 900k house into a profit, but I do honestly believe there is a bubble in California. Not only are states such as Arizona, Colorado, Idaho, etc appealing to native Californians now, but the rate of immigration to the state(I'm speaking of US Citizens) will lessen as people are priced out of the state. For me the choice is quite clear. I live in a state with very low taxes, very decent employment rates if you have a brain, very cheap property and cost of living. I *could* move to Cali and buy a more expensive and smaller home, but why? As with anywhere you can find enclaves of rich/great school systems, and where I live has pretty good weather(not withstanding bastard hurricanes or tornadoes).

I know there is a cost of living adjustment is salary for living in CA, but you can bet your ass that if the market there starts shrinking -- well then it is likely that the economy and job growth will shrink as well. Basically what I'm trying to say is that there is a good chance that California is reaching saturation in jobs, real-estate, etc. Many people are going to stop moving there and/or move out, and I do believe it is going to have a pretty negative impact on the State's economy, and the State's services. I base this simply on the fact that I feel the housing market as well as pretty much the entire lifestyle there is inflated. The current demand for housing is simply unsustainable and rising rates are going to negatively impact the market there. People are going to move or not *move* there in the first place because they will see that they simply cannot afford it. The economic growth and resulting real-estate growth that California has had is not sustainable. The economy is cyclic and will correct itself when it goes through and especially egregious pattern of growth. There will be a correction soon and I do think that the economy there will suffer. That's one man's opinion. The saving grace for Cali is that they have a HEAVILY diversifed economy, so I think that any collapse won't be because of specifc segment of the economy, but based on the state as a whole.

People don't need to move here for the population to keep exploding and demand for housing to increase.

The Latinos in the state are ensuring this...... (no insult)

I don't think housing prices in CA are going down much at all anytime soon. My house has been BY FAR the best investment I could have made in the last 3 years.

Also, to the person who loved San Diego......I would agree. If I was to move to any "big" city, it would be San Diego (if I could afford it). It is awesome there....only bad thing is the San Diego Chargers!

I thought of the Latinos, and I don't mean to be insulting either, but their capacity for earning(s) and educational skills are FAR below other groups right now.