OK... I just don't understand this???

manlymatt83

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How is it that when I worked out at the gym doing the 28 minute eliptical machine, I would burn 420 calories, in 28 minutes, but not lose that much weight?

Now, I'm running 3.5 miles a day on the treadmill, which takes about 50 minutes, only burning 300 calories, but losing weight at an incredibly higher speed? Less calories burned, more time, more weight loss? HUH?
 

Ricemarine

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Who ever said the calorie counting devices on treadmills and elliptical machines were accurate?.

You should try a higher difficulty on the elliptical machine... It could be the fact the calories keep burning AFTER you finish your workout which is why you are losing more weight... Or the fact that it requires more energy to run?.
 

SophalotJack

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Anything low-impact is going to burn a significantly less amount of energy. Such as the elliptical... regardless of what it tells you that you are burning. It's mainly a BS marketing tactic to get people to use that worthless piece of machinery.

running = the pwnerer of calories.
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
How is it that when I worked out at the gym doing the 28 minute eliptical machine, I would burn 420 calories, in 28 minutes, but not lose that much weight?

Now, I'm running 3.5 miles a day on the treadmill, which takes about 50 minutes, only burning 300 calories, but losing weight at an incredibly higher speed? Less calories burned, more time, more weight loss? HUH?

longer time = better cardio, heartbeat kept up longer, more calories burned AFTER you are done working out.

Simple!
 

manlymatt83

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Originally posted by: SophalotJack
Anything low-impact is going to burn a significantly less amount of energy. Such as the elliptical... regardless of what it tells you that you are burning. It's mainly a BS marketing tactic to get people to use that worthless piece of machinery.

running = the pwnerer of calories.


So you're saying to continue running 3 miles a day and the weight will come off faster? :)
 

jagec

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The day an exercise machine measures the quantity of CO2 I exhale, is the day I trust those worthless "calorie counters". It's a stopwatch times a constant, dude.
 

rezinn

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Or rather keep your heart rate elevated for a greater amount of time to lose more weight.
 

SophalotJack

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
Originally posted by: SophalotJack
Anything low-impact is going to burn a significantly less amount of energy. Such as the elliptical... regardless of what it tells you that you are burning. It's mainly a BS marketing tactic to get people to use that worthless piece of machinery.

running = the pwnerer of calories.


So you're saying to continue running 3 miles a day and the weight will come off faster? :)

YES. If you can run 3 miles a day, there is no reason for you to need a beginner device like an elliptical.

Stick with the tried and true methods of getting in shape.

We didn't "all-of-a-sudden" (in the last 30 years) discover that machines will make us more fit. Machines and gyms are an industry that are all about the money.

The best workouts I have had was playing basketball in the heat for a couple hours and then doing manual labor, like yard work. I literally ate a 3000+ calorie diet on those days, or else I would be starving and pass out. (which I did once)
 

TheoPetro

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try running the same three miles on a track instead of a treadmil and see what happens.

you will loose alot more alot faster
 

dxkj

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
try running the same three miles on a track while covered in flames, instead of a treadmil and see what happens.

you will loose alot more alot faster

 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: mjuszczak
How is it that when I worked out at the gym doing the 28 minute eliptical machine, I would burn 420 calories, in 28 minutes, but not lose that much weight?

Now, I'm running 3.5 miles a day on the treadmill, which takes about 50 minutes, only burning 300 calories, but losing weight at an incredibly higher speed? Less calories burned, more time, more weight loss? HUH?

Haha, this thread is full of stupidities.
There's a level of exercise where you burn fat, and there's above. The fat one is actually quite low, if you get above that you just brun carbohydrates and don't loose any weight.

So when you're running to loose wait you should run just about where you can still keep a conversation going.

I'm the training guru, i know loads about it :)
Ask on :p
 

TheoPetro

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Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
How is it that when I worked out at the gym doing the 28 minute eliptical machine, I would burn 420 calories, in 28 minutes, but not lose that much weight?

Now, I'm running 3.5 miles a day on the treadmill, which takes about 50 minutes, only burning 300 calories, but losing weight at an incredibly higher speed? Less calories burned, more time, more weight loss? HUH?

Haha, this thread is full of stupidities.
There's a level of exercise where you burn fat, and there's above. The fat one is actually quite low, if you get above that you just brun carbohydrates and don't loose any weight.

So when you're running to loose wait you should run just about where you can still keep a conversation going.

I'm the training guru, i know loads about it :)
Ask on :p

i thought you didnt start burning significant carbs untill your workout gets very intense. like running 2 miles in 12 min type of deal repetedly.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: TheoPetro
Originally posted by: Forsythe
Originally posted by: mjuszczak
How is it that when I worked out at the gym doing the 28 minute eliptical machine, I would burn 420 calories, in 28 minutes, but not lose that much weight?

Now, I'm running 3.5 miles a day on the treadmill, which takes about 50 minutes, only burning 300 calories, but losing weight at an incredibly higher speed? Less calories burned, more time, more weight loss? HUH?

Haha, this thread is full of stupidities.
There's a level of exercise where you burn fat, and there's above. The fat one is actually quite low, if you get above that you just brun carbohydrates and don't loose any weight.

So when you're running to loose wait you should run just about where you can still keep a conversation going.

I'm the training guru, i know loads about it :)
Ask on :p

i thought you didnt start burning significant carbs untill your workout gets very intense. like running 2 miles in 12 min type of deal repetedly.

You're right, you need to get past the sugar reserves first i believe.
Ok i'm apparently not the wiz i was hoping, it's been to long since i "studied" it.
But i do know the best way to burn fat is the average tempi.
 

TBone48

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Originally posted by: Ricemarine
Who ever said the calorie counting devices on treadmills and elliptical machines were accurate?.

That's the answer.More effort over time will burn more calories.
 

Fingolfin269

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I just do 23 minutes of cardio and keep my heart rate at a predetermined % of my max based on what minute of the workout I'm in. I go up to 90% of my predetermined max then back down to around 60-70% then work my way back up, etc. It's all about the type of cardio you choose to do and I like to do high intensity cardio. It gets me in and out of there fast, it works for me, and it has minimal negative impact on body fat %. After all, body fat % is way more important than what your scale tells you. What would you rather be? 175 pounds and 7% body fat or 175 pounds 15% body fat?
 

Fingolfin269

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Oh, and the calorie meters on exercise machines are never right. Some can be more accurate than others but if you're never asked to input age, weight, body fat, etc. then it can't possibly be correct.
 

DaiShan

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Originally posted by: SophalotJack
Anything low-impact is going to burn a significantly less amount of energy. Such as the elliptical... regardless of what it tells you that you are burning. It's mainly a BS marketing tactic to get people to use that worthless piece of machinery.

running = the pwnerer of calories.


Heh running is better than the elliptical, but pretty much only that. Rowing is incredibly demanding, then after that I would say comes swimming. I race in Triathlons and erging for 30 minutes with sub 2 minute splits wears me out!
 

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The benefit of ellipticals is that they are low/no impact machines that make it possible for people with knee/ankle injuries to get a workout without risking further injury.

My most intense exercise is racquetball, however it is a sprint style workout with different benefits compared to the endurance required for distance running. For the best overall body workout with cardio I believe swimming is supposed to be king.