OK I GOT IT !!! but another problem arose...

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I finally got my new system up and running but only when I use my CRT or have them both connected,but it will not post if I have my lcd connected by itself,
I saw ATI has had a problem with this has or does anyone know how to fix this?

I am hooked up to it via DVI.
 

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when you boot, does your LCD work until windows takes over (ie can you see the bootup/bios screen)?

do you have DVI selected in your monitor setup?

have you tried using the analog port of your monitor?

 
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It works when windows starts only not when it first turns on,
I have not tried the VGA connection I donot have a VGA/DVI cable or adapter.
 

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Originally posted by: SC4RF4C3
It works when windows starts only not when it first turns on,
I have not tried the VGA connection I donot have a VGA/DVI cable or adapter.

so it doesn't work on the bootup screen but does later as windows is loaded? but then it doesn't work after it's loaded? i'm confused...

 
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here are the steps I take...
hit the power button on my PC, CRT start up no lcd, it goes though post, windows starts to load once the XP starting screen comes on the LCD comes on and the CRT goes off.

now if I use the CRT, the crt runs fins as does my pc..

LCD alone it starts and hangs then shuts down.
 

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what lcd are you using (make/model)? do you have to specify analog or digital in the monitor setup (maybe it's set to analog)? have you tried both dvi connectors on the card (maybe it's hooked up to the secondary, when it should be hooked to the primary dvi-out).

if it's none of those, try this:

boot with your analog monitor. uninstall the x1950pro. make sure you don't have any old ati or nvidia drivers. if you have access to driver cleaner, use it to weed out any old nv or ati .dlls

make sure you have the correct monitor.inf, and reboot as a standard vga card. if windows loads then that's a pretty good indication of a driver issue. reinstall the catalyst driver. reboot. hopefully it should boot with your dvi now.
 
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weird thing is I first thought of that so when I set up this rig I went one steap at a time, I put in vid card, cpu and a stick of memory, and tried it...
even then it wouldnt boot to my lcd only my CRT so NO drivers could be present.
I figured that would help but nope when I got it all installed its still the same thing....

My MB is NF4 and an ATI card I know they are supposed to work together but I wonder if thats the problem.
 

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nah.. i ran an x1800xt via dvi for a year w/o issue... so you can't even boot into vga mode (select by hitting f8. see: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/315222).

i did read about a 'black login screen' issue, but oddly enough, it was a crt that wouldn't boot. iirc he booted in vga mode, assigned a hotkey via CCC to toggle all resolutions, then restarted. at the black screen he just tabbed to enter his logon info (window and the login screen was there; there just was no monitor signal) and logged in. once he was logged in, he hit the hotkey till his screen appeared and he set his prefs, then it worked on subsequent boots.. might try that even tho his problem was with the analog output...
 

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did you ever try my suggestions above? do you have the correct monitor.inf? you still haven't replied with the make/model of the lcd you're having trouble with.. frankly, you're making this harder than it needs to be..

if i'm understanding this correctly, everything is fine until the windows logo disappears while booting. basically this is when windows applies the display settings you set, so if that's where your display quits, it's most likely you have your setting set to a display mode your monitor can't handle (such as setting the refresh rate higher than your monitor is rated for).

boot with your CRT, make sure you've installed the correct monitor.inf for your LCD, and you have the correct video card driver installed.

once that's done, reboot in 'safe' mode using your LCD. if i'm right, and you can log on in 'safe' mode, right click on the desktop and click properties, and then on the settings tab.

if you are sure of what your native resolution is, set it to that. if now, then just move the screen res slider to the far left to select the smallest setting that your LCD will support.

also change the color quality to 256 colors. (You probably don't need to go as low as 16 colors, if that's presented as an option.)

now, click on the advanced button, and then the monitor tab of the resulting dialog box. change the screen refresh rate to 60Hz.

now back your way out, and reboot your machine. if your settings were the source of the problem, it should now boot normally. the settings may suck, but at least you now have a place to start.

go back into your display properties, advanced, monitor, and if you installed the correct monitor.inf, it should only display setting supported by your monitor (there should be a check box for that; make sure it's selected). reconfigure your display settings, and you should be set.