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Wedesdo

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HAHAHAHAHAHAH! I have defeated the evil M$ Empire's newest creation!!!

I just got a new lappy, and I installed the "test" copy of WinXP that I had lying around... :D

However, WinXP, like Win2k, likes to enable ACPI and set every device to the SAME IRQ!!! I had 6 devices sharing the same IRQ - Modem, Ethernet, Graphics Card, USB, Sound card, and the Parallel port... needless to say, this caused a LOT (!) of trouble... Therefore, I decided to do a re-install and choose "Standard PC" at the setup screen by pressing F5 (As I have read on the M$ support site).... anyways, this worked ok, BUT it also disabled power management (ie, auto shut down, battery control, etc...).

Therefore, I decided to search around to see how I could make it install APM without ACPI... I finally figured out the way - after the first reboot, boot to a floppy disk, go into C:, and modify the installation file (txt[something].sif) and change ACPIEnabled=0 ...

Just finished installing this copy - NO MORE IRQ SHARING!!! :D and the computer powers off automatically, etc. and all other APM features are still enable!!!

I AM SO HAPPY!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 
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NikPreviousAcct

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<< and the computer powers off automatically >>

Mine does that too... but it's built in. Congrats on the success though. :)
 
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bigrash

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congratulations...would you like a cookie for that? just send me 10 bucks for shipping/handling and i'll mail it to you
 
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Wedesdo

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<< ACPI is there for a reason >>


interesting that making 6 devices share the same IRQ (causing them to be VERY SLOW and crash prone) is a reason.

are you the &quot;genious&quot; at microsoft who thought of this? :| ;) :p
 
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Argo

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No, but I'm a person who knows enough about hardware to understand that without ACPI, multiprocessing would not be possible. Now, I suggest you go and learn your sh*t, and next time you want to make a smart ass comment about something you don't know, think twice.
 
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Argo

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Oh yeah, you can easily disable ACPI, if you go to control panel->system->computer, and select Non ACPI system. I'm running win ME over here, so I can't check the exact steps, but it should be self explanatory. Just don't do this if you have multiprocessor system.
 
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Wedesdo

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hum... interesting that you're using winme and thinks you can compare it to win2k/winxp...

just install one of those OS and try to change the computer type with out reinstalling. you'll certainly get a blue screen.

also, it's a LAPTOP!!! who ever heard of a dual processor lappy (not that I don't want one, of course ;) ) it's just that win2k/winxp likes to share all the irq's...
 
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Argo

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Dude, I've maintained a network of 100 computers running Windows 2000 Pro/AS. I think I know what I'm talking about. I dunno why you get a blue screen, but that's a different story. As for not having multiprocessor system and not needing ACPI: you were suggesting MS shouldn't have ACPI in the first place. Without ACPI multiprocessing system won't be possible. Furthermore, the only thing irq sharing does is causes you to lose a few fps. Remember, win2k isn't a system for home users, it's primary goal is stability and ACPI brings it. Yes, I know you are going to say that sharing IRQ cannot bring stability, but not having to worry about different IRQs does.
 
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Wedesdo

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let's see here... EVERY SYSTEM IS DIFFERENT!!!

I have a piece of POS D-Link USB ethernet adapter and a crappy built-in Pc-Tel modem that don't have fully ACPI support in their drivers! what was I supposed to do? buy a new ethernet adapter and mini-pci card, or disable ACPI and get a little extra in halflife?

I chose the latter... I'm not talking about a server here- this is a laptop, and Windows XP IS the next-gen home OS replacement!
 
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andrey

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Wedesdo,

Disabling ACPI disables features as hybernate and couple others. I have 10 devices sharing same IRQ in Windows2000 (IRQ 9) and I have no problems at all. If your laptop doesn't work well ACPI, that's something is wrong with your laptop my friend.

As far as modifying setup text file, 10-year old kid can do that and won't even ask a cookie for that.
 
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holden j caufield

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you can run a repular MPS system without acpi in win2k. They've got a HAL for that too I believe. So regular MPS is possible without acpi MPS.
 
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nitrousninja

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I have ACPI enabled on my W2K system and have great stability. I only lock up during a stupid overclock or something like that. The IRQ problem is irrelevant with ACPI enabled. Three W2K systems with ACPI enabled and great stability with ALL of them.
 
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MrBond

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ACPI on my thinkpad 765L fights with my NIC and Modem. They dont like it at all. I settled for Win98SE now, I don't use it that much anyway.
 
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