ok duron pencil guys read this!!!!

gplracer

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I have a week 29 retail from buy.com I could only get 850mhz and no more. I was never over 45C. I took out the cpu. I erased and applied the pencil again. I also checked make sure the temp sensor was in the right place. I thought possibly it might not be touching the cpu. It was in the correct place. I rebooted and boom I have 900mhz. I have not tried to go higher yet. I would recommend that if you are not real hot but can not get a higher speed that you erase and apply the pencil marks again.
 

ride525

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gplracer,

Maybe there's a mistake in your post?


<< I have a week 29 retail from buy.com I could only get 850mhz and no more. I was never over 45C. I took out the cpu. I erased and applied the pencil again. I also checked make sure the temp sensor was in the right place. I thought possibly it might not be touching the cpu. It was in the correct place. I rebooted and boom I have 90mhz. >>


Did something go wrong? 90mhz? or is that 900? :)

&quot;boom&quot; = explosion? :)

:) :) :)
 

pdo

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hehe. He's just happy that he hit 900 and made mistakes typing. Anyways mind is also Week 29 and it never went above 40C even though I've been running RC5 for like 14 hours already. Don't know what is up with Asus Probe Monitor.
 

gplracer

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Thanks I made a mistake. Now I have another update. I would not do 1 gig. Now after being on for a while. I had set the memory to turbo and then back to 900mhz. Guess what? It locked on the boot up in windows. The system runs great at 850 so even though I can sometimes get in at 900 it is not stable. Oh well..... I guess 850 is the limit. I still think the repenciling of the L1 bridges helped.

I wish that was true with mine it was at 45C after sitting idling for an hour. I bet under heavy load it would be around 48-49C. Is that too high? Right now at 850 under load it is at 45C. I wonder why I could get in and do 3dmark at 900mhz and now it locks on boot up. It must be the limit of the cpu?

How much would a blow hole with a fan in the top of the case next to the cpu help?
 

ride525

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:)

Figured it was a typo....that's why I had all the smiley faces....I'd get that way to if I was almost at 900 :)

Only other thing is what kind of case do you have....does it allow a lot of airflow....and do you have a fan at the rear pulling a lot of air out past the CPU?


 

Dan

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I'm at 900MHz and 41C. I tried 950MHz but it kept hanging during the POST. Maybe I should tweak the FSB and see if I can at least join -paldo at 927MHz! ;)
 

formulav8

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My 600@800 is still at the 600mhz temp. 54c. I don't have any problems. You guys just worry to much. Amd even said the temp is fine below 90c. They made the chip so i think they should know what the temps should be.
 

SilverBack

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About the re-penciling idea.
Re-doing it shouldn't have different effect at all.
When you use the graphite to close the bridges all you really are doing is providing the cpu with startup information.
Let me explain.
When you boot and the cpu is powered up it's sends a VERY small current through the bridges to determine what multiplier the cpu is. The L1 bridges are not used after the boot sequence. So if you did have a different multiplier operating then it did it's job, that won't change.
It is quite possible that the HSF was moved to a beter position or was giving a better effect after you took it off to alter the bridges again. That may explain your findings...
 

redpriest_

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Sounds like you need to give a little more *unf* to your voltage :)

My Duron 600 wouldn't do 1000 MHz no matter how much I labored, until I did a little voltage modification to my motherboard:

Abit KT7 voltage modification

The results?

Duron 600 MHz@1000 MHz

2.03 volts sounds really crazy, and perhaps it is. At $60 for a processor, it's worth the risk, in my estimation. It might be different for you, but from a CPU that was really stubborn about moving away from 914 MHz, 1000 MHz is a considerable leap :)

45 degrees Celsius under load with an Alpha PAL6035 + silver grease
 

merlocka

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IIRC, the AMD spec of 90c is an &quot;internal&quot; die spec. I read that on overclockers.com somewhere. I guess there is a difference between the temp in the die and the temp at the diode. I have a Tbire 800 running at 950 at 1.8v and the Asus (A7V) probe says 53c (full load). I'm not too worried, as it only drops to 47 when I run at defaults.
 

paulip88

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formulav8,
90C is definitely on the hot side. Besides, the last time I read the AMD spec, it said that the acceptable range of temperatures was up to around 58C (I think that's what it said). Either way, if you get a reading at 90C, you'd better turn that thing off, or else it wou;dn't be running for much longer.
 

johncar

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The AMD 90C spec is not an internal temp, it's defined as top dead center of the external interface to hs/fan...verified by email/response from AMD tech support/appl engr'g.

Makes sense when you look at it &quot;this&quot; way. SS7 chips had spec of 70C for top dead center of &quot;metal&quot; case top...different construction...the temp of the external surface of the SS7 die is &quot;higher&quot; by the temp drop across the &quot;thermal goop&quot;, heat spreader, and metal case. So 70C metal case top/SS7 chips and 90C Duron/Tbird would be expected to translate into roughly the same &quot;die temp&quot;...the bottom line.
John C.