OK 64 bit gurus .

[oldman420]

I am getting ready to do a major upgrade and I am very confused about CPU sockets,theres like 4 of them for the athalon 64.
So I think I have found socket 939 to be the one to go with but isn't there a socket 940 now?
arghh.
the mother board i think that will best fit future CPU's is the 939 but hey like I said I'm confused

I think I will get the MSI K8N NEO2 PLATINUM.

help me understand this brave new 64 bit world and wtf is the hyper transport bus does it multiply the FSB or something?

 

[Kenazo]

S754 = original Athlon 64. I think the fastest they'll go is 3700? (correct me if I'm wrong), some Sempron's are on this socket too.
S940 = early Athlon64-FX and all Opterons are here, YOU NEED REGISTERED ECC RAM. not worth it for most ppl. Dual channel ram.
S939 = new A64-FX's, and the new A64. Dual channel ram. Probably the longest upgrade path, but you do pay more now.

My recommendation, if money is an issue is to go s754, get an A64-3200 and you're good to go. then just unload the hole thing and go s939 when the prices come down.

 

[Yanagi]

S939 prices are somewhat down now. You'll pay about 50$ more at the most for a S 939 system nowadays. However I'd wait a few weeks until .09 CPUs are out in more volume..

 

[oldman420]

So s939 is the way to go for future upgrade potential, I like the idea of 8-1 audio, and the nf3 chipset is sure to be better in rev 2.

 

[dguy6789]

none of the ones listed above will last too long. Socket 900 will be where its at. With dual cores, pcie, ddr2, and maybe btx.

 

[Sunner]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
none of the ones listed above will last too long. Socket 900 will be where its at. With dual cores, pcie, ddr2, and maybe btx.

Errr...what?
Where did you find this mysterious S900?

 

[Stern]

are there separate s939 and s940 mobos?
i only seem to find ones that specify 939, so do s940 cpus work on those too?

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Stern
are there separate s939 and s940 mobos?
i only seem to find ones that specify 939, so do s940 cpus work on those too?

yes
no

 

[Regs]

nm

 

[Stern]

so, an example of a s940 mobo is?

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: Stern
so, an example of a s940 mobo is?

s940 is for Opterons, TYAN makes some.

link

 

[Gamingphreek]

You want SCK939. 940 is for servers nowadays, and requires slightly slower [/b]registered RAM.

I would also like to now about this SCKT 900, never heard anything about? :roll:

-Kevin

 

[Stern]

so opterons are 64bit for servers?

 

[thermalpaste]

GO for an Asus A8V, expensive, but worth investing........

 

[Stern]

i'm not really interested in buying a board right now, i'm quite happy with my xp 3200 + k7n2 setup right now, i was just interested, thanks for the info

 

[Algere]

Socket 900 (take it for FWIW)

"05/26/04 - DDR 2 and Socket 900 for Q2 2005
Some good Asian friends send us words about AMD plans regarding DDR 2 and it could come out much sooner than expected. According to well informed OEM sources, AMD is already testing a 90nm SOI DDR2 version on socket 900 code named Toledo which will be followed, within a month or two, by dual-core DDR2 90nm chips Egypt, Italy and Denmark from the K9 family. Coupled with a massive 90nm ramp, AMD is undoubtedly planning to put a tremendous pressure on Intel during the coming months..."

Source

 

[uOpt]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You want SCK939. 940 is for servers nowadays, and requires slightly slower ECC RAM.

I don't think they require (but can use) ECC RAM, but they require registered RAM.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: MartinCracauer

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
You want SCK939. 940 is for servers nowadays, and requires slightly slower ECC RAM.

I don't think they require (but can use) ECC RAM, but they require registered RAM.

Oops lol my bad. I meant registered yet i wrote ECC.

-Kevin

 

[Xatrix]

Personally I am waiting for the s939 nforce4 SLI's.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Algere
Socket 900 (take it for FWIW)

"05/26/04 - DDR 2 and Socket 900 for Q2 2005
Some good Asian friends send us words about AMD plans regarding DDR 2 and it could come out much sooner than expected. According to well informed OEM sources, AMD is already testing a 90nm SOI DDR2 version on socket 900 code named Toledo which will be followed, within a month or two, by dual-core DDR2 90nm chips Egypt, Italy and Denmark from the K9 family. Coupled with a massive 90nm ramp, AMD is undoubtedly planning to put a tremendous pressure on Intel during the coming months..."

Source

The dual-cores are also coming out for S939, so unless AMD manages to boost performance a good deal, there's not a lot of pressure to move to S900.

 

[dguy6789]

ddr1 will stop being made about 6 months after it comes out, as no new cpus will be using ddr1 anymore. They stopped makin sdr sdram and rdram, and ddr1 will follow suit. Anyone buying a socket 939 thinking it will provide long term upgradability is obviously mistaken. All new amd 64s will be on 900 once it comes out, as amd wont make 2 seperate cpus ,as that is too expensive.

 

[ViRGE]

SDR SDRAM is still being made...

 

[Algere]

The dual-cores are also coming out for S939, so unless AMD manages to boost performance a good deal, there's not a lot of pressure to move to S900.

More like not a lot of pressure to move to DDR2.

I can see the possibility why AMD may want to move to socket 900. To prevent "noobs" from installing a DDR1 compatible CPU into a DDR2 compatible motherboard. I can only imagine all the customer service calls AMD & motherboard manufacturers would have to face if they offered socket 939 in both DDR1 and DDR2 flavors.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Algere

The dual-cores are also coming out for S939, so unless AMD manages to boost performance a good deal, there's not a lot of pressure to move to S900.

More like not a lot of pressure to move to DDR2.

I can see the possibility why AMD may want to move to socket 900. To prevent "noobs" from installing a DDR1 compatible CPU into a DDR2 compatible motherboard. I can only imagine all the customer service calls AMD & motherboard manufacturers would have to face if they offered socket 939 in both DDR1 and DDR2 flavors.

The socket has to change, DDR2 has a different pin count.

 

[Frew]

Dont worry about socket 940. Depending on your budget look at either socket 754 or 939.